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Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby BeastProwl » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:04 am

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Here's a place to post things you didn't notice in one of the transformers movies until the second or third time watching them.
Here's one for me:
In DOTM, During the scene were Sam is asking Optimus if he had a plan, Optimus didn't let him in on it. They did have a plan, but why not tell him so? I just barely noticed that Sam said "Tell me, and no other HUMAN will ever know!" Then Optimus has a look of realization on his face, and says "There is no plan"
If Sam wouldn't have put that HUMAN part in there, Optimus may have divulged the plan to him...
It's little things like this that often go un-noticed, that are great examples of good writing, but are often overlooked. There are plenty of things you may not notice the first time watching.
In part one when Ironhide aimed his cannon through the windows at Sam's parents, look at Ratchet, exactly what is he doing? These are examples of things I noticed after watching the fims multiple times. Do you have any of these derpy movie moments you'd like to share?
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby SlyTF1 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:15 am

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I've noticed a lot of stuff. Most of it I've explained in other threads, butI guess...

TF1: The story is really about a virus corrupting the government's computers and robots looking for glasses on ebay.

ROTF: There are no plot holes. Everyone just over reacts. The movie is well paced and the only problem with it is that it just tries too hard to be funny for little kids.

DOTM: There are a lot of editing mistakes in this movie scattered throughout. It kind of worries me. It also just ignores the first movie completely, while it only hints at ROTF in some parts. Optimus looks pissed at the end like he regrets killing Sentinel while the epic music plays. It makes me think if there's a sequel, Optimus will question the effectiveness of the Auotbots.

The movies overall: That crap about "turn off your brain" is a load of BS. That's why critics and people who hate the movies notice all these "inconsistencies" or get confused. It's because they take that advice and don't think. I think about these movies and read into each and every moment of all three of them and they all make perfect sense.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby BeastProwl » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:31 am

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SlyTF1 wrote:I've noticed a lot of stuff. Most of it I've explained in other threads, butI guess...

TF1: The story is really about a virus corrupting the government's computers and robots looking for glasses on ebay.

ROTF: There are no plot holes. Everyone just over reacts. The movie is well paced and the only problem with it is that it just tries too hard to be funny for little kids.

DOTM: There are a lot of editing mistakes in this movie scattered throughout. It kind of worries me. It also just ignores the first movie completely, while it only hints at ROTF in some parts. Optimus looks pissed at the end like he regrets killing Sentinel while the epic music plays. It makes me think if there's a sequel, Optimus will question the effectiveness of the Auotbots.

The movies overall: That crap about "turn off your brain" is a load of BS. That's why critics and people who hate the movies notice all these "inconsistencies" or get confused. It's because they take that advice and don't think. I think about these movies and read into each and every moment of all three of them and they all make perfect sense.

Ahh, see, you see the movies the same way I do in alot of ways. There are a few missing links (And characters) but all and all, not as bad as people say. anyhow, as far as optimus' regrets, I believe they will show more if there is a sequel. what I don't get is, why didn't he show a single hint of emotion after ironhide died? Weren't they old friends?
If optimus' regrets and sorrows, worries and fears were to personify themselves into a singular form, you'd have a nemesis prime running around, now, wouldn't you? :D
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby SlyTF1 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:07 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:I've noticed a lot of stuff. Most of it I've explained in other threads, butI guess...

TF1: The story is really about a virus corrupting the government's computers and robots looking for glasses on ebay.

ROTF: There are no plot holes. Everyone just over reacts. The movie is well paced and the only problem with it is that it just tries too hard to be funny for little kids.

DOTM: There are a lot of editing mistakes in this movie scattered throughout. It kind of worries me. It also just ignores the first movie completely, while it only hints at ROTF in some parts. Optimus looks pissed at the end like he regrets killing Sentinel while the epic music plays. It makes me think if there's a sequel, Optimus will question the effectiveness of the Auotbots.

The movies overall: That crap about "turn off your brain" is a load of BS. That's why critics and people who hate the movies notice all these "inconsistencies" or get confused. It's because they take that advice and don't think. I think about these movies and read into each and every moment of all three of them and they all make perfect sense.

Ahh, see, you see the movies the same way I do in alot of ways. There are a few missing links (And characters) but all and all, not as bad as people say. anyhow, as far as optimus' regrets, I believe they will show more if there is a sequel. what I don't get is, why didn't he show a single hint of emotion after ironhide died? Weren't they old friends?
If optimus' regrets and sorrows, worries and fears were to personify themselves into a singular form, you'd have a nemesis prime running around, now, wouldn't you? :D


Optimus sure looked sad to me when he finally got to the base. And for the rest of the movie, Optimus was going for people's faces...more so than usual.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby SlyTF1 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:00 pm

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I just watched ROTF again and there is more evidence that supports the fact that Sam didn't travel to the Well of All Sparks when he died, rather it was the Allspark still embedded in his mind. Optimus Prime's speech at the end of the movie ends: "...I send this message so that our past will always be remembered, for in those memories we live on." It's a clear reference to the knowledge of the Primes continuing to live on in the Allspark. Because when as Optimus explains in the beginning of the movie, the last recorded history of the Primes was lost with the Allspark's destruction.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:30 pm

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For the longest time, I was wondering why if OP's violent lashing out at Megatron and SP was merely for coolness' sake, or if there was an underlying reason.

And then it occured to me--Ironhide. The most obvious motivation would naturally be the death of Ironhide.

I mean, Ironhide's been his closest friend and comrade for centuries, and it would stand to reason he'd lash out at Sentinel because of it.

That said, it could have done with some better editing, with some added footage of OP's mourning his old friend. Of course, it was all chaos after his death, which wouldn;t give him time to mope about it. But just a couple of words when he confronts Sentinel at the Lincoln Memorial would have been good enough. And have him mention Ironhide before he executes SP.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby Pontimax 01 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:01 am

BeastProwl wrote:Here's a place to post things you didn't notice in one of the transformers movies until the second or third time watching them.
Here's one for me:
In DOTM, During the scene were Sam is asking Optimus if he had a plan, Optimus didn't let him in on it. They did have a plan, but why not tell him so? I just barely noticed that Sam said "Tell me, and no other HUMAN will ever know!" Then Optimus has a look of realization on his face, and says "There is no plan"
If Sam wouldn't have put that HUMAN part in there, Optimus may have divulged the plan to him...
It's little things like this that often go un-noticed, that are great examples of good writing, but are often overlooked. There are plenty of things you may not notice the first time watching.
In part one when Ironhide aimed his cannon through the windows at Sam's parents, look at Ratchet, exactly what is he doing? These are examples of things I noticed after watching the fims multiple times. Do you have any of these derpy movie moments you'd like to share?



That's how I like to interpret that scene as well. The insertion of the "human" line was an attempt at a give away to Prime.

I noticed in viewing the Blu Ray at home that during the scene with Megatron, Soundwave, and Starscream in Africa that Soundwave does not have the three pointed star Mercedes Benz badge on his chest like he does the rest of the movie. IMO they were trying to keep his eventual introduction in alt mode a suprise and they deliberately left out the emblem in this scene. That way he was a much bigger surprise when he transforms and abducts Carly.

Another scene that didn't hit me at the theaters and only during at home viewing was when Sam is going into NEST headquarters after the copy machine scene, Ironhide and Ratchet are parked there in alt mode. Sam walks by and taps Ironhide on the hood, then Ratchet's emergency lights all flash as Sam walks by, acknowledging Sam's presence. I didn't notice that the first few viewings to be honest. I liked that touch though.

And one I just finally caught over Christmas break from work was during the fight at the end when all the autobots are ganging up on Sentinel, Bee does this wicked attack in towards SP and as SP swings around his direction to counter Bee transforms to car mode, reverses over some debris and kind of flings himself out of reach and then transformers again. That was a sweet use of the transforming concept put into practicality there.

Also, Prime's trailer to me seems like a running gag. It appears and disappears frequently and is never seen in the background when he's in robot form (except when it itself transforms to the weapons platform). Makes me laugh and think back to the cartoon. I'm not sure it was even intentional or not.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby BeastProwl » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:49 pm

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"you know what you were told! and that is nothing!"
What does this mean? What's it reffering too?
Also, I've noticed that Optimus' voice is MUCH deeper in the first film.
Another thing: Bumblebee can barely knock out barricade in part 1, but can kill Rampage AND Ravage in part 2, and Singlehandedly Dispatches Soundwave in part 3! He either
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby Rushie » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:28 pm

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Pontimax 01 wrote:Another scene that didn't hit me at the theaters and only during at home viewing was when Sam is going into NEST headquarters after the copy machine scene, Ironhide and Ratchet are parked there in alt mode. Sam walks by and taps Ironhide on the hood, then Ratchet's emergency lights all flash as Sam walks by, acknowledging Sam's presence. I didn't notice that the first few viewings to be honest. I liked that touch though.

And one I just finally caught over Christmas break from work was during the fight at the end when all the autobots are ganging up on Sentinel, Bee does this wicked attack in towards SP and as SP swings around his direction to counter Bee transforms to car mode, reverses over some debris and kind of flings himself out of reach and then transformers again. That was a sweet use of the transforming concept put into practicality there.


noticed these two as well, in one viewing (probably my fifth or sixth)

I especially like Sam acknowledging Ratchet and Ironhide. IIRC, he taps on both their hoods and both respond with flashing lights.

It's still stupid that the TFs in these films spend so much downtime in their alt mode, but if you're gonna save money and time, this is one way to keep them as characters instead of mere props. The scene in RotF in which the Autobots were shipped underneath cargo nets in car mode really pissed me off. They've got legs for Primus sake
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby Rattrap273 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:35 pm

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The things I've noticed right off the bat while watching ROTF for the first time were just inconsistency errors and goofs.

Out of the top of my head, I remember when Megatron was being revived by the Constructicons, they use one of their own to revive Megatron but later on, we see the same bot that was destroyed along the lines with the other Constructicons.

The other thing I've noticed was when the vehicles were coming together to combine into Devastator, you can see the drivers in the vehicles. That may not be a goof exactly like how Barricade and Starscream had a holographic driver and pilot, but for this situation, the Contructicons had no reason to be incognito and wouldn't have needed a holographic driver.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:39 am

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Rattrap273 wrote:
Out of the top of my head, I remember when Megatron was being revived by the Constructicons, they use one of their own to revive Megatron but later on, we see the same bot that was destroyed along the lines with the other Constructicons.

The one you see with them later is Scrapper, the one sacrificed under water however, is Scrapmetal. Two different bots.

Rattrap273 wrote:The other thing I've noticed was when the vehicles were coming together to combine into Devastator, you can see the drivers in the vehicles. That may not be a goof exactly like how Barricade and Starscream had a holographic driver and pilot, but for this situation, the Contructicons had no reason to be incognito and wouldn't have needed a holographic driver.

Tapped my interest, Im going to have to go watch it again, because I didn't notice that...
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby Rattrap273 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:06 pm

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Cool beans, thanks for clearing the first one up for me :)
And for the second one, I don't remember exactly. I only saw the movie once when it came out a couple years ago, but I'm sure I did see something like that.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby zenosaurus_x » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:49 pm

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Wow, haven't been on Seibertron in a bit, this is a good a place as any to start.
TF1 as compared to DOTM:Brawl takes forever to kill, in turn DOTM TransFormers die almost instaneously. Weapons upgrades?

After seeing the first two so many times, ROTF had a lot of small details, but by now everyone's found em. I (or rather my brother) did notice one odd thing in DOTM...LaserBeak is apparently able to shoot a bird...in 3. Which was awesome.
So...nothing amazing comes to mind sadly, after TF1&2 my eyes missed little to nothing in DOTM.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby Skywarp64 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:47 pm

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Being a Megs fan myself, the first thing I notice is Megatron getting shortchanged in all 3 films. In the first, he had as much screen time as Cliffjumper in TF:P. In the second, he was scrapped by Optimus and made a pawn of the Fallen. Same problem in the third, but replacing the Fallen with Sentinel Prime. Megatron is nobody's fool, he's the leader! I think if they're going to do a TF:4, I'd like to see Megs back in charge.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:58 pm

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Skywarp64 wrote:Being a Megs fan myself, the first thing I notice is Megatron getting shortchanged in all 3 films. In the first, he had as much screen time as Cliffjumper in TF:P. In the second, he was scrapped by Optimus and made a pawn of the Fallen. Same problem in the third, but replacing the Fallen with Sentinel Prime. Megatron is nobody's fool, he's the leader! I think if they're going to do a TF:4, I'd like to see Megs back in charge.

Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times, not right off the bat :D and I know. But what he lacked in screen time, he made up for in his awesome designs, and his final moment (Before getting cleved o' course)
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby Skywarp64 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:03 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:
Skywarp64 wrote:Being a Megs fan myself, the first thing I notice is Megatron getting shortchanged in all 3 films. In the first, he had as much screen time as Cliffjumper in TF:P. In the second, he was scrapped by Optimus and made a pawn of the Fallen. Same problem in the third, but replacing the Fallen with Sentinel Prime. Megatron is nobody's fool, he's the leader! I think if they're going to do a TF:4, I'd like to see Megs back in charge.

Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times, not right off the bat


I DID watch them multiple times before formulating this opinion. I just used bad wording.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:30 pm

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I was pondering something while on my 2 hour bus ride home from school about the final battles in the trilogy;

-In the first movie, the battle began mid day and ended...10 minutes later.
-In ROTF, the battle started mid day and ended in the late afternoon
-In DOTM, the final battle started early in the morning(Or technically late at night) and ended mid day.

-Also, in the first movie, Sam was running to get to a building.
-In ROTF he was running to get to a pillar.
-And in DOTM, he was running to get to a building with a pillar in it...

-I also noticed that the first movie's final battle was like a black ops mission. A few Autobots trying to sneak precious cargo into...a heavily populated city for some reason.
-ROTF's was like a big battle in the desert.
-And DOTM's was more like an extermination.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby Sideswipe7 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:31 am

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Optimus can go back in time, here's how. In TF3 when Optimus come flying with his fly tech, he hits the clock tower, then the timer goes backwards 8)
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby BeastProwl » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:39 am

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IDK If anyone else noticed, but the "Blood" Out of the Dread's mouths and such, is energon. G1 PINK energon.
Another thing Sentinel Prime has 2 Swords. One duel bladed Sword, and one Buster Blade. He used it on Optimus when he was awakened.
Ironhide's cannons are next to gone. He relies mostly on handheld weapons, but never activates them, leading me to believe they're gone or replaced.

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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:05 pm

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Another thing Sentinel Prime has 2 Swords. One duel bladed Sword, and one Buster Blade. He used it on Optimus when he was awakened.


He had 2 swords, but they were the same. He was just able to attach them together to make the dual blades. Too bad the toy can't do that.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby ReDPATH » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:55 pm

Things to notice besides things already mentioned IMO.

- TF 2007 is the most balanced, fun movie of the 3
- ROTF would have been the best of the 3 had it cut down the toilet humor/stuck with Primes death. It was easily the best paced of the 3 movies with the most scenic final battle in Egypt IMO
- DOTM was a great second half movie with the first half being a lot worse than the worst humor used in ROTF

All 3 are pretty watchable but the latter two have the holes with repeat viewings
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby OneConArmy » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:50 pm

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In DOTM, I noticed Que is wearing an tool apron during his execution.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby BeastProwl » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:16 pm

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OneConArmy wrote:In DOTM, I noticed Que is wearing an tool apron during his execution.

He wears it the whole movie, a satchel too.
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:14 pm

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I noticed, that the wildlife on Cybertron is F*&KING SCARY!

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The Driller (Rumble... that's just what I call him)

All examples of animal-like Transformers from the movies. All scary as hell! No wonder the Transformers are all armed liek they are!
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Re: Things you notice after watching TF movies multiple times

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:55 pm

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Rumble is already a part of the movie universe:
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