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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:53 pm

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megatronus wrote:Beast Wars occurs in the same universe/timeline as G1.
A G1, yes, but not a known particular one. There's more than one "G1" reality.


Really? I always thought that Beast Wars was meant to be a sequel to the G1 cartoon, hence why things get confused when they introduce new concepts in BW like the All Spark.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby shajaki » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:31 pm

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Sabre pointed that out to me a while ago, and while I don't like it, it is true. BW is based off a continuity EXTREMELY like G1 but not quite. Little things like, the way they explain the Ark and Nemesis crashing to earth was different than the G1 toon, which made little sense of the Decepticons being aboard.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby megatronus » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:48 pm

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With the benefit of hindsight, some things don't make sense. But that's us backing our current understanding of things into those two cartoons, which I believe differs from the original intention of the BW writers who were linking the series.

From where I sat as a kid, they were part of the same continuity, and that's how I view it today. Headcannon is awesome.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby shajaki » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:52 pm

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Agreed! They're linked in my head too ;)^
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby megatronus » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:57 pm

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shajaki wrote:Agreed! They're linked in my head too ;)^

It's the best when Spider-Man AND Dinobot agree! 8)
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:19 pm

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When they were first making the Beast Wars cartoon, though, Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio were essentially making an entirely new show that had little to no relation to the one from 1984. They wanted to make their own show without any real ties to the old one, and pretty much ignored the G1 cartoon in the earlier stages of Beast Wars. The pilot itself had no elements from G1 in it beyond a mention of "Cybertron" and the unstable crystalline energy being called "energon". The "Great War" alluded to in the pilot was originally just an abstract idea of ambiguity that was meant to get the fans more interested and curious about the show and its world. It was the fans who thought the "Great War" referred to "the Autobot/Decepticon civil war of the 1980s fiction", and so Bob and Larry took a liking to the idea and eventually ran with it.

But Beast Wars originated with the intent of being the first actual reboot series before it was later decided by the maker to throw in some nods to the 1980s Transformers fiction (both the cartoon and the comics), and eventually make Beast Wars the setting for some sort of G1 universe. One that has Starcream in his Marvel Universe profile colors, the Autobot starship called "the Ark" (a Marvel-original thing since the cartoon never gave it a name), the Decepticon starship called "the Nemesis" (a name that originated from Beast Wars since no 1980s fiction ever named the ship), said Decepticon starship known as "the most powerful Decepticon warship in Transformer history" (having no such reputation in any 1980s fiction) for having shot down the Ark (the Autobot ship crashed in the cartoon via G-forces pulling it down, and crashed in the comics via Optimus himself driving down it into the Earth), and Primus existent (who didn't exist in the cartoon, having not been conceived as a thing until 1988). And all of this, the Beast Wars's G1, was regarded as being akin to Arthurian Legend by Bob and Larry.



In complete contrary to my point, however, the Japanese version of the Beast Wars cartoon was definitely (and is officially) regarded as being part of the Japanese G1 cartoon continuity, so Japan made real this point of view, while the West chose full ambiguity.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby reluctantyouth » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:31 am

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Robogeek1973 wrote:Masterpiece Beast Wars huh?


Why the hell not? >:oP


I'll take a Masterpiece Fuzor Silverbolt and Dinobot in a heartbeat.



Hell to the yes!!! I'd take Silverbolt over Prime right now...he was always one of my favorites. Dino would be awesomesauce as well.

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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby MartianSpyGirl1996 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:40 am

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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby wilcosu35 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:42 am

reluctantyouth wrote:
Tranzilla wrote:
Robogeek1973 wrote:Masterpiece Beast Wars huh?


Why the hell not? >:oP


I'll take a Masterpiece Fuzor Silverbolt and Dinobot in a heartbeat.



Hell to the yes!!! I'd take Silverbolt over Prime right now...he was always one of my favorites. Dino would be awesomesauce as well.

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I'll Third this. i'd buy MP beast wars figs without a second thought.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby megatronus » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:59 am

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ALL THE BEAST WARS!!!
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Zeedust » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:49 pm

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megatronus wrote:ALL THE BEAST WARS!!!

BEAST WARS UNENDING!!!
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby LegendaryAntiHero » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:23 pm

About time time Takara did a Masterpiece for something besides G1
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:32 pm

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Arise dead thread and behold!

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CGI render pic found here.

Also, according to this scan, though its ID number is still unknown, it looks like the name of this MP toy will be "Convoy (Beast Wars)".
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Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Primal Primal 3D render

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:53 pm

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Fellow Seibertronians, courtesy of Sabrblade, via TF Upgrader we have our first detailed look at the highly anticipated Masterpiece Optimus Primal. Being released by Takara in celebration of the Beast Wars anniversary, MP Optimus Primal has been eagerly anticipated since his reveal at the Tokyo Toy Show this year here

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So what do you think of it? Sound off in the comments below on whether or not you think this latest MP lives up to the hype it has generated since it's reveal.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:54 pm

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It's glorious, and will likely be my first Masterpiece figure =P~
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby ishigoto » Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:14 am

As a beast-baby, this will be the first Masterpiece figure I've ever purchased...hot dang, it's gonna be worth it, I hope....How much is this thing gonna cost?
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby wewyllenium » Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:28 am

I'm just curious if will this be in scale with the current MPs. Because if it does then this will be tiny!
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby BumbleDouche » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:09 am

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Everyone may hate me, but I'm not feeling this one. While it's a great effort & a nice robot mode, I feel it cheapens the whole Masterpiece line with an alt mode that is far from convincing. The Masterpiece line should be the be-all, end-all definitive figure for a character... While this figure may fill that role for now, it will clearly need re-engineering in the future to better hide the robot bits in beast mode. Because of this, I feel it really doesn't qualify as a Masterpiece.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:17 am

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Hell YEAH! This one look amazing! So, that mean we will FINALLY have a MP Megatron.... The BW T-Rex one, that is.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby MemphisR56 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:11 am

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LegendaryAntiHero wrote:About time time Takara did a Masterpiece for something besides G1


Yaniger-swipe and Gold-bee don't count then? :lol:

EDIT: This is actually making me seriously rethink the decision to put the LG-02 Optimus Primal on my Christmas list.

I'm not sure the family would pick it up for me, but if this looks amazing and it's a sensible price, it might just end up being the fastest a brand new figure has ever been retired from my shelf. :oops:
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Cyber Bishop » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:33 am

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MegaDump wrote:Everyone may hate me, but I'm not feeling this one. While it's a great effort & a nice robot mode, I feel it cheapens the whole Masterpiece line with an alt mode that is far from convincing. The Masterpiece line should be the be-all, end-all definitive figure for a character... While this figure may fill that role for now, it will clearly need re-engineering in the future to better hide the robot bits in beast mode. Because of this, I feel it really doesn't qualify as a Masterpiece.



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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby william-james88 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:14 am

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ishigoto wrote:As a beast-baby, this will be the first Masterpiece figure I've ever purchased...hot dang, it's gonna be worth it, I hope....How much is this thing gonna cost?


At least 100$, assuming it is the same size class as Ironhide/Shockwave or bigger .

MegaDump wrote:Everyone may hate me, but I'm not feeling this one. While it's a great effort & a nice robot mode, I feel it cheapens the whole Masterpiece line with an alt mode that is far from convincing. The Masterpiece line should be the be-all, end-all definitive figure for a character... While this figure may fill that role for now, it will clearly need re-engineering in the future to better hide the robot bits in beast mode. Because of this, I feel it really doesn't qualify as a Masterpiece.


Yeah, the engineering seems more like an update than really a Masterpiece figure. I dont see how RHinox is generations and this is an MP, aside from size. This will really be a wait and see for me. That beast mode does not look as good as when they first showed it:

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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby OptimalOptimus2 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:15 am

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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby wilcosu35 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:26 am

Sah-weet. I'm so excited by this. Can't wait for them to announce more details.
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