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Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:12 pm
by Tammuz
tis 50x50

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:14 pm
by neliz
Mogwai Prime wrote:The wouldn't need to be hosted on Seibs as they could be integrated into the signature. If anyone didn't know how to, or didn't have the ability to do so I could help with that.


I know about the implementing it in a current sig (example, Raphael Prime) but people change sigs and if it were small icons below a signature (merit badges) people would be able to click the picture/hyperlink and see the results in a thread. that saves a lot of time explaining what the picture is for all the time.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:24 pm
by Burn
neliz wrote:
Mogwai Prime wrote:The wouldn't need to be hosted on Seibs as they could be integrated into the signature. If anyone didn't know how to, or didn't have the ability to do so I could help with that.


I know about the implementing it in a current sig (example, Raphael Prime) but people change sigs and if it were small icons below a signature (merit badges) people would be able to click the picture/hyperlink and see the results in a thread. that saves a lot of time explaining what the picture is for all the time.


If you're talking adding it beneath a larger pic in a person's sig, that would violate the whole "one image per sig" rule, regardless of how tiny it is.

Though it would be the best way to go about things.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:27 pm
by neliz
Burn wrote:If you're talking adding it beneath a larger pic in a person's sig, that would violate the whole "one image per sig" rule, regardless of how tiny it is.

Though it would be the best way to go about things.


I know it's violating. But the draconian signature rules need their own Obama. It's time for a change!

it's either that, or have the sig hyperlink to an "achievements" thread (with no crap posting) that would list the achievements per user.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:29 pm
by Tammuz
i'd rather not break the site rules.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:41 pm
by Mogwai Prime
Burn wrote:
neliz wrote:
Mogwai Prime wrote:The wouldn't need to be hosted on Seibs as they could be integrated into the signature. If anyone didn't know how to, or didn't have the ability to do so I could help with that.


I know about the implementing it in a current sig (example, Raphael Prime) but people change sigs and if it were small icons below a signature (merit badges) people would be able to click the picture/hyperlink and see the results in a thread. that saves a lot of time explaining what the picture is for all the time.


If you're talking adding it beneath a larger pic in a person's sig, that would violate the whole "one image per sig" rule, regardless of how tiny it is.

Though it would be the best way to go about things.


I wonder if it would be possible to use the empty space under the posting player's information on the left side for something of this nature.

**Edit** or even provide a second area underneath the signature area for this purpose.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:52 pm
by Wingspan
Alternatively, since the ribbons are small, the ribbon can be placed overtop the signature. This can be accomplished through a variety of HTML tricks - or just by hosting another sig version with the ribbon overlay.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:54 pm
by neliz
Mogwai Prime wrote:
I wonder if it would be possible to use the empty space under the posting player's information on the left side for something of this nature.

**Edit** or even provide a second area underneath the signature area for this purpose.


I think the best example is the Apolyton.net message board where tourney ribbons are placed under the user info on the left. it IS a mod affair however.

per example: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.p ... adid=26248

linking to user groups/ribbons.

Since we're not running with avatars anymore, this would be a viable replacement and an incentive to get forum goers to play hmw to get their "personality" back ;)

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:21 pm
by Mogwai Prime
neliz wrote:
Mogwai Prime wrote:
I wonder if it would be possible to use the empty space under the posting player's information on the left side for something of this nature.

**Edit** or even provide a second area underneath the signature area for this purpose.


I think the best example is the Apolyton.net message board where tourney ribbons are placed under the user info on the left. it IS a mod affair however.

per example: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.p ... adid=26248

linking to user groups/ribbons.

Since we're not running with avatars anymore, this would be a viable replacement and an incentive to get forum goers to play hmw to get their "personality" back ;)


That example is what I was thinking but just below the poster's information.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:09 pm
by Max_Prime
Mogwai Prime wrote:With the maximal tournaments in the past I made ribbons for 1st-3rd places. I would be willing to make them again for different tournaments if you guys would be interested here are some of the past ribbons.

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I had an idea like this for the tournaments I'll run. I was thinking metals and the more you collect the higher your rank. Similar to the military. I just havent have had the time to make anything since Electron won.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:34 pm
by Mogwai Prime
Max_Prime wrote:
Mogwai Prime wrote:With the maximal tournaments in the past I made ribbons for 1st-3rd places. I would be willing to make them again for different tournaments if you guys would be interested here are some of the past ribbons.

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I had an idea like this for the tournaments I'll run. I was thinking metals and the more you collect the higher your rank. Similar to the military. I just havent have had the time to make anything since Electron won.


If you want any help with them just let me know :).

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:37 pm
by Raphael Prime
personally, i don't mind placing any and all badges on my sig, even if i happen to change it in the future, doesn't take me long at all to do it. And you can always resize the image yourself to make it fit the sig better.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:44 am
by Psychout
Burn wrote:If you're talking adding it beneath a larger pic in a person's sig, that would violate the whole "one image per sig" rule, regardless of how tiny it is.
I need to double check but there may be a way around this, although Im not sure how workable it is currently;

You are allowed extra images if they are hosted here, (remember the 'save the tiefighter/dragon/etc. sigs from a while back?) so if the medal .gifs can be hosted in a section of the alts database they could be added to sig's without interfering with the artwork.

Just an option for the future, but Im loving the rest of the ideas here.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:05 am
by Tammuz
can't you use the attach feature to attach a picture to a post? then it's hosted here right?

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:11 am
by Burn
I just tried and I don't think the file upload is working.

But could someone care to explain the benefits of the images being hosted on the Seibertron.com server as opposed to say, Photobucket?

As a viewer, i'm going to use the same bandwidth to download all the images regardless of what site they're on.

And we always hear about server strain and the cost of bandwidth, so to me, it would be a more viable and beneficial option for the user to upload to their own host and save the hard drive space and bandwidth (as miniscule one image may be it would add up) of Seibertron.com?

Or am I just missing the real reason behind it all?

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:22 am
by Mogwai Prime
Burn wrote:I just tried and I don't think the file upload is working.

But could someone care to explain the benefits of the images being hosted on the Seibertron.com server as opposed to say, Photobucket?

As a viewer, i'm going to use the same bandwidth to download all the images regardless of what site they're on.

And we always hear about server strain and the cost of bandwidth, so to me, it would be a more viable and beneficial option for the user to upload to their own host and save the hard drive space and bandwidth (as miniscule one image may be it would add up) of Seibertron.com?

Or am I just missing the real reason behind it all?


Hit count? I'm not sure exactly. IMHO I think it would be better that way for the site itself. We already host our own Sigs, I don't know why we couldn't host these badges/ribbons ourselves. The only other reason I can think of is to have them automatically attached somewhere outside of player control. I think in that respect it would be easier to host them on the site.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:21 am
by Psychout
Burn wrote:As a viewer, i'm going to use the same bandwidth to download all the images regardless of what site they're on.
Im not 100% certain myself, but from a server capacity perspective, Im told the extra picture loading cuts into server memory/speed, but if they are hosted here the additional memory required is minimal.

Either way it's a legal route to getting extra stuff put in sigs, and if we get told off we can just blame Mkall. :P

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:57 am
by neliz
images hosted on seibs ARE going to affect it's bandwidth (cost)
It will also add a bit of time to page generation (which can already be slow on seibs)
photobucket (or crappy sites like that) sometimes limit the bandwidth per picture (hence, the empty photobucket tags in some threads)
tags would be placed in your browser cache and would only be loaded once a week or so (for normal browsing) or, when a user sets it's options, more often.

however, the argument of extra bandwidth for seibertron.com is void seen how some extra images were placed on EVERY SINGLE PAGE on seibertron (shaded background, shadow/bot silhouettes and the city commander upgrade. If the bandwidth was an issue, those wouldn't be there.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:20 pm
by Mogwai Prime
neliz wrote:images hosted on seibs ARE going to affect it's bandwidth (cost)
It will also add a bit of time to page generation (which can already be slow on seibs)
photobucket (or crappy sites like that) sometimes limit the bandwidth per picture (hence, the empty photobucket tags in some threads)
tags would be placed in your browser cache and would only be loaded once a week or so (for normal browsing) or, when a user sets it's options, more often.

however, the argument of extra bandwidth for seibertron.com is void seen how some extra images were placed on EVERY SINGLE PAGE on seibertron (shaded background, shadow/bot silhouettes and the city commander upgrade. If the bandwidth was an issue, those wouldn't be there.


I think we will have to wait and see how the powers that be decide to handle this issue. For now players that win them can integrate them into their sigs if they choose that way it doesn't break any site rules and for now makes any bandwidth issues moot.

Does anyone have any requests for a tournament ribbon/badge that they are running? I know tammuz already made one for her tourney.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:04 pm
by Absolute Zero
Mogwai Prime wrote:
neliz wrote:images hosted on seibs ARE going to affect it's bandwidth (cost)
It will also add a bit of time to page generation (which can already be slow on seibs)
photobucket (or crappy sites like that) sometimes limit the bandwidth per picture (hence, the empty photobucket tags in some threads)
tags would be placed in your browser cache and would only be loaded once a week or so (for normal browsing) or, when a user sets it's options, more often.

however, the argument of extra bandwidth for seibertron.com is void seen how some extra images were placed on EVERY SINGLE PAGE on seibertron (shaded background, shadow/bot silhouettes and the city commander upgrade. If the bandwidth was an issue, those wouldn't be there.


I think we will have to wait and see how the powers that be decide to handle this issue. For now players that win them can integrate them into their sigs if they choose that way it doesn't break any site rules and for now makes any bandwidth issues moot.

Does anyone have any requests for a tournament ribbon/badge that they are running? I know tammuz already made one for her tourney.


Could probably use some for the Max/Pred tournie, but since that wont be til After Tammie's scalphunt, no rush.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:18 pm
by Mogwai Prime
Absolute Zero wrote:Could probably use some for the Max/Pred tournie, but since that wont be til After Tammie's scalphunt, no rush.



I'll start working on some designs and post them in here for you to scrutinize :).

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:45 pm
by Burn
Psychout wrote:Either way it's a legal route to getting extra stuff put in sigs, and if we get told off we can just blame Mkall. :P


I thought we still blamed Alpha Strike for everything.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:51 pm
by Absolute Zero
Mogwai Prime wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:Could probably use some for the Max/Pred tournie, but since that wont be til After Tammie's scalphunt, no rush.



I'll start working on some designs and post them in here for you to scrutinize :).


Excellent Mr. Prime. Probably going to need a few. Top scorers for each 'day' and the overall top. Maybe something with a Matrix on it.

You know, this being a leader thing is pretty easy. I come up with a idea then outsource work to others willing to do it.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:55 pm
by Tammuz
how do you think i got DWII to run so smooth? i had red counting till he got stigmata of the eyes.

Re: Tournament Ribbons

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:05 pm
by Mogwai Prime
Absolute Zero wrote:Excellent Mr. Prime. Probably going to need a few. Top scorers for each 'day' and the overall top. Maybe something with a Matrix on it.

You know, this being a leader thing is pretty easy. I come up with a idea then outsource work to others willing to do it.


By "day" you mean week in hooman time I'm assuming? Do you just need top place for each week or will you need a 1st-3rd? Will you need a 1st-3rd for the overall or just top finisher?

Would you like separate designs for each week and for the overall? I also have an idea for a way to do them in the military ribbon style and still have a way to distinguish between the separate places. I'll put up a template for here in a little bit :).

While I understand that everyone wants to do it a different way, I think we should all come together with a agreed upon template to make it uniform for everyone.