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Cyclonus_3009 wrote:That's true Down_Shift, but as far as I'm aware Hasbro didn't specifically state that all seekers in this line would be based on old molds. Maybe if we're lucky (God willing.) We'll actually get a new mold based on Thundercracker's IDW appearance.

You are completely right. I was too busy thinking that it would be great to get an IDW Blitzwing that I completely ruled out the possibility of the IDW Seeker mold. I gotta say C_3009, I like that idea a lot. I'd love to see an IDW Nightbeat too.

battlecollective wrote:Thrust is great, but his presence undermines both the gentei and botcon exclusives, not to mention the fans who put out a lot of money to get those figures. It just seems unfair that an equivalent figure (with better paint apps) would be available for retail.

Hasbro has done nothing wrong, nor does the figure undermine or diminish the exclusive figures.

This Seeker is based of Takara's design, and their Seekers were not based off of the BotCon/FunPub figures.

It's thinking like that that causes problems in this fandom. A little bit of attention paying goes a long way.

Now, people are gonna be up in arms whining about their figures losing value because of Thrust, when he won't affect the exclusives whatsoever.

For the love of....

First the Henkei seeker controversy, now this? Let's simmer down boys, the exclusives will stay as exclusives. It doesn't diminish crap, it's a 'Thrust' in it's own right, as Botcon Thrust is to the character.

And seriously, there aren't too many fans 'complaining' about the value of the Botcon seeker sets that they buy.. because you never get to see that shit on Ebay. It's just damn scarce. Yes I'm a tad disappointed that I won't ever be able to own the Botcon set.. I've come to accept that. Will the owners of the 2007 Botcon set be pissed about this figure? No. The set will continue to peak in price because it's been an exclusive since the start.

And in all honesty the seekers aren't even the best part of that set, it's Dreadwind and Bug Bite.

Blurrz wrote:For the love of....

First the Henkei seeker controversy, now this? Let's simmer down boys, the exclusives will stay as exclusives. It doesn't diminish crap, it's a 'Thrust' in it's own right, as Botcon Thrust is to the character.

And seriously, there aren't too many fans 'complaining' about the value of the Botcon seeker sets that they buy.. because you never get to see that shit on Ebay. It's just damn scarce. Yes I'm a tad disappointed that I won't ever be able to own the Botcon set.. I've come to accept that. Will the owners of the 2007 Botcon set be pissed about this figure? No. The set will continue to peak in price because it's been an exclusive since the start.

And in all honesty the seekers aren't even the best part of that set, it's Dreadwind and Bug Bite.

I think the issue is not so much what thier figures will be worth once the retail version of thrust cones out. it is more how much they had to pay for thier version, when compaired to how much getting an equivlent figure is going to cost the rest of us.

I would if i had purshased a botcon version or a Genkei verson, i would be upset over how much i paid, for a figure i was told would not me made available at north american retail. only to find out i could have saved a $100.00 (or more) when they suddenly released a retail version that is so simular to mine, that the difference is not even note worthy.

yes it is different, but not in any real way that matters, heck, the differences may even be an improvement. mold wise i think it is better than the botcon one, and paint wise i think it is better than the Genkei one.

i can grab all the upcomming figures i want from the new wave, for the cost of 1 botcon thrust, and still have some cash left over.

generalstratton wrote:

Blurrz wrote:For the love of....

First the Henkei seeker controversy, now this? Let's simmer down boys, the exclusives will stay as exclusives. It doesn't diminish crap, it's a 'Thrust' in it's own right, as Botcon Thrust is to the character.

And seriously, there aren't too many fans 'complaining' about the value of the Botcon seeker sets that they buy.. because you never get to see that shit on Ebay. It's just damn scarce. Yes I'm a tad disappointed that I won't ever be able to own the Botcon set.. I've come to accept that. Will the owners of the 2007 Botcon set be pissed about this figure? No. The set will continue to peak in price because it's been an exclusive since the start.

And in all honesty the seekers aren't even the best part of that set, it's Dreadwind and Bug Bite.

I think the issue is not so much what thier figures will be worth once the retail version of thrust cones out. it is more how much they had to pay for thier version, when compaired to how much getting an equivlent figure is going to cost the rest of us.

I would if i had purshased a botcon version or a Genkei verson, i would be upset over how much i paid, for a figure i was told would not me made available at north american retail. only to find out i could have saved a $100.00 (or more) when they suddenly released a retail version that is so simular to mine, that the difference is not even note worthy.

Thrust is such a bittersweet thing.
It's not only harms the exclusive that was thrust, but harms future exclusives.
Should we be worried they'll do this in the future? Release an exclusive and it has huge demand, so they release it to the mass market?
I don't have thrust or collect seekers really, except just starscream. I see the issue with it though.
With like, the PS3 you could have bought it for 600 back when it came out or 300 now, but with sony, it was pretty obvious this would happen, it's been their business practice. So, what's Hasbro's going to be now?

Screamfleet wrote:Thrust is such a bittersweet thing.
It's not only harms the exclusive that was thrust, but harms future exclusives.
Should we be worried they'll do this in the future? Release an exclusive and it has huge demand, so they release it to the mass market?
I don't have thrust or collect seekers really, except just starscream. I see the issue with it though.
With like, the PS3 you could have bought it for 600 back when it came out or 300 now, but with sony, it was pretty obvious this would happen, it's been their business practice. So, what's Hasbro's going to be now?

Well then, doesn't this give you a clue? Don't pay exorbitant prices for convention exclusive toys that Hasbro will likely make, down the road.

I wasn't happy about the Seekers being BotCon only, but c'est la vie.

The last laugh is on the people who paid the huge sums of money to get these figures.

And it won't affect the price of the exclusive figures. The mold and deco changes will ensure that.

I mean, I don't know what to tell you.

EDIT: Never mind, I was ranting and off topic. If you saw what I wrote please ignore it.

I'm pretty surprised that Straxus was prioritised over the likes of Xaaron, Flame and Impactor.

Screamfleet wrote:Thrust is such a bittersweet thing.
It's not only harms the exclusive that was thrust, but harms future exclusives.
Should we be worried they'll do this in the future? Release an exclusive and it has huge demand, so they release it to the mass market?
I don't have thrust or collect seekers really, except just starscream. I see the issue with it though.

You're talking as if Hasbro and TakaraTomy are the same company. Well, they're not. Both only share the Transformers franchise, but each goes in the direction they see fit.

Hasbro noticed the demand for an affordable Classics/Universe Thrust, and asked TakaraTomy for their Gentei Thrust mold, or just the wing molds. It's the only way, really: any molds or retools made for the conventions are destroyed after use, the same goes for BotCon Thrust's wing molds. The main difference between Hasbro and Takara's would be the (lack of) chrome, really. BotCon, Gentei or Generations. To each their own.

Me, I'm gonna wait for Generations Dirge before getting all coneheads, be them Classics/Generation or Henkei/Gentei. Nitpicky me can't accept a chrome-less conehead among two with chrome, or vice-versa.