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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Megatronsdemise666 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:29 pm

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Didn't really care about a release of a hasbro soundwave.

But now I'm excited! :).
I would say his price would be 80$ with all the cassettes?
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Megatronsdemise666 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:40 pm

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Didn't really care about a release of a hasbro soundwave.

But now I'm excited! :).
I would say his price would be 80$ with all the cassettes?
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:41 pm

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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Mindmaster » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:42 pm

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Megatronsdemise666 wrote:Didn't really care about a release of a hasbro soundwave.

But now I'm excited! :).
I would say his price would be 80$ with all the cassettes?


He's somewhere between MP Starscream and MP10, so there's $74 USD right there. Cassettes, if sold individually, would probably go for Scout prices ($10 USD), and there's five of them. We're probably looking around $120 USD.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Bumblevivisector » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:55 pm

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Bumblevivisector wrote:And the biggest question just dawned on me: Which one will be named Rumble, and which will be Frenzy?


Given the trend of Prime Rumble being blue and FoC Rumble being blue, I'm fairly certain the blue guy will be officially called Rumble too. Nothing stopping you from naming him Frenzy tho. :lol:

Yes, I sort of already responded to that in the part of my post you didn't quote.

Seriously, no one else would like to see official fiction acknowledging Rumble and Frenzy being able to switch back and forth between their color schemes, as the ultimate in-joke on the irresolvable debate: a compromise that leaves everyone dissatisfied? It would also rationalize one coloring goof in the Movie.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:30 pm

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Lemme guess. Once again, both MPs will be goddamn TrU exclusive unavailable for Québec because they are too ****** to print French on the boxes.

It made me rage greatly considering that those stupid packagings ARE printed IN Québec.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Megatron Wolf » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:42 pm

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it better not be a store exclusive and if it is better not be TRU. Either way the price point better be realistic and not that crap they pulled with Grimlock. Acidstorm should be between $40 & $50 Soundwave $60-$70. But we all know acid storm will be $80 & Soundwave $150 especially if TRU gets them.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:53 pm

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Megatron Wolf wrote:it better not be a store exclusive and if it is better not be TRU. Either way the price point better be realistic and not that crap they pulled with Grimlock. Acidstorm should be between $40 & $50 Soundwave $60-$70. But we all know acid storm will be $80 & Soundwave $150 especially if TRU gets them.


Plus, they will force demand by making then not available in all the TrU (not counting Québec that they hate so much).
Then, like OP, they will increase the price by 20$ when stock get down.

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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Mindmaster » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:55 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:it better not be a store exclusive and if it is better not be TRU. Either way the price point better be realistic and not that crap they pulled with Grimlock. Acidstorm should be between $40 & $50 Soundwave $60-$70. But we all know acid storm will be $80 & Soundwave $150 especially if TRU gets them.


Plus, they will force demand by making then not available in all the TrU (not counting Québec that they hate so much).
Then, like OP, they will increase the price by 20$ when stock get down.

TrU is not known to stay classy.


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Make them available to all retailers and stop making Toys "R" Us the dominant seller of Masterpieces in North America.

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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby craggy » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:26 pm

Bumblevivisector wrote:Seriously, no one else would like to see official fiction acknowledging Rumble and Frenzy being able to switch back and forth between their color schemes, as the ultimate in-joke on the irresolvable debate: a compromise that leaves everyone dissatisfied? It would also rationalize one coloring goof in the Movie.

I'd buy that for a dollar. Or $3.99 whatever the price of the current comics is. I'm not against the idea that a lot of TFs can change colour at will. It'd explain their turning grey when dead in the movie, excuse animation errors and it could be written off as a racial inherent talent that not everyone possesses explaining why some bots are always the same colours. It could be hardwired into their CNA.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby megatronus » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:29 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:Dear Hasbro,

Make them available to all retailers and stop making Toys "R" Us the dominant seller of Masterpieces in North America.

Warm regards,

-Mindmaster and pretty much most of the fanbase



I think Hasbro gets a lot of flack from the fandom for the TRU exclusives, but I don't think they're to blame (necessarily).

We all know Masterpieces have historically performed poorly at other retailers, and TRU seems to be the only retailer willing to pick up that slack. From a business perspective, I'm sure Hasbro would love to have a wider presence at the big box department stores, but those stores are probably unwilling to play ball.

Even with Masterpiece Optimus, I'm fairly certain that Hasbro manufactured to the quantities TRU decided to order, so throw stones at TRU for vastly underestimating demand. Same with the price point - Hasbro set the suggested retail of 99.95, and sold product to TRU at prices based on that suggested retail. It's TRU that jacked up the price.

What we're seeing now is a symptom of poor performance in the past. If we were able to have Target or Wal-Mart go to bat for Soundwave, we might be able to end the vicious TRU epidemic, but I wouldn't count on it.

I wish Hasbro's online Toy Store had the gumption to sell this stuff directly. That may be the most realistic (if not likely) solution to this short-supply, TRU & scalpers market.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby XDMan » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:30 pm

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Give me some photos, I don't have time for predictions, Hasbro.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby UltraPrimal » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:32 pm

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Too bad it's too late to cancel my MP Soundwave order from BBTS. Anyone wanna buy a brand new MISB Takara Soundwave?
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Mindmaster » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:35 pm

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XDMan wrote:Give me some photos, I don't have time for predictions, Hasbro.


It's probably going to still look the same:

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Maybe put in a few subtle changes here and there like they did MP10, but that's it. Be patient, brah. Hasbro will deliver.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby DinobotSix » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:23 pm

'cause everyone is CLEARLY waiting for an Acid Storm... /sigh

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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Mindmaster » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:24 pm

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DinobotSix wrote:'cause everyone is CLEARLY waiting for an Acid Storm... /sigh


I'm actually interested in Acid Storm. If he's all camo-y like his Universe Deluxe was, I'd get him.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby padfoo » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:43 pm

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Great news, I cannot wait to pick up both!
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby MGrotusque » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:03 pm

This makes me happy that i cancelled my pre order at the last minute. I wasn't feeling the 200 dollar ,after shipping, price tag on Soundwave.
I had a feeling he would get a Hasbro release. Now i just gotta wait and deal with the frustration of TRU and the scalpers scooping them all up as soon as they hit the shelf. sigh :roll:
Maybe he was worth the 200 hundred after all.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:46 pm

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I just realized I made a faux pas. I posted that I was excited about getting Ratbat...we're not actually getting him, are we? Buzzsaw instead. Is that correct?

Even though Ratbat would have been the more logical choice to me, given that Buzzsaw only showed up in one, maybe two episodes of G1, and Ratbat's involvement, though brief, in the movie.

Then again, there is the deluxe "Senator" Ratbat. Though I doubt he'll see U.S. release.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Henry921 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:08 pm

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:I just realized I made a faux pas. I posted that I was excited about getting Ratbat...we're not actually getting him, are we? Buzzsaw instead. Is that correct?

Even though Ratbat would have been the more logical choice to me, given that Buzzsaw only showed up in one, maybe two episodes of G1, and Ratbat's involvement, though brief, in the movie.

Then again, there is the deluxe "Senator" Ratbat. Though I doubt he'll see U.S. release.


Don't be too hard on yourself. Even if he is a vicious, unstoppable killing machine, we all forget about Buzzsaw occasionally. ;)

I lay odds on a $100 price point, later jacked up to $125 after the initial (short) supply is purchased. Still, I'm happy we're getting him. Guess I'll need to sell yet another of my body's redundant organs.
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:22 pm

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All I need to know is price. Anything under $200 will be a steal
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Nemesis Destron » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:02 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:All I need to know is price. Anything under $200 will be a steal



Right on man, anything would be a steal! But if I had to guess actual retail price (cue the Price is Right theme :P ) I would say about $89.99. Sorry Acid Storm but you suite me as a deluxe seeker and that's that but to SW...c'mon Hasbro here is my money. :ic$: :VEHI:
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby User897 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:06 pm

If Soundwave is going to be a TRU only release, we better make sure we are prepared for plenty of aggravation. It will start at $149.99, will be scarcely available both in-store and online, will sell out, magically re-appear, go up to $189.99, and the influx of complaints about eBay scalpers will be burning up the forums from the first sighting. Then, there will be people like me without access to a store having to depend on the TRU site, which is it's own nightmare.

All I can say, if it is indeed TRU only, is good luck. To all of us. And pick up extras if you can. Of course the "one per customer" rule could effect that as well, if the store follows it.

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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby mooncake623 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:29 pm

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Don't know how I feel about acid storm... Not sure if I need a masterpiece version, and definitely not picking up the sunstorm.

Awesome news about Masterpiece Soundwave but I already have the Takara Version, but this does make me rethink about buying the Takara Masterpieces cassettes
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Re: Toy Fair 2013 Coverage: Masterpiece Soundwave and Acid Storm Confirmed for Wide Release

Postby Hero » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:46 am

So does this mean we're not getting Sideswipe?
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