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Well, when I say Masterpiece-scaled, I mean a figure that is to scale with the current MP releases like Sideswipe is scaled to Optimus, not a figure that is the same size as them (which would actually be smaller than regular Fort Max). A Fort Max to scale with MP Sideswipe would be the size of a person, at a conservative estimate. The only way that's going to be $300 is if he's got minimal articulation and a bare-bones transformation.

That Bot wrote:Well, when I say Masterpiece-scaled, I mean a figure that is to scale with the current MP releases like Sideswipe is scaled to Optimus, not a figure that is the same size as them (which would actually be smaller than regular Fort Max). A Fort Max to scale with MP Sideswipe would be the size of a person, at a conservative estimate. The only way that's going to be $300 is if he's got minimal articulation and a bare-bones transformation.

Seeing as this is "supposed" to be FOC Metroplex toy...for it to scale in with even FOC Optimus, it would need to be even bigger than a human. In the game, Optimus was barely the size of Metroplex's fingernail (if he had fingernails) when standing on his hand in the beginning of chapter 3 (or was it 4?)



I honestly doubt Metroplex can scale in with any TF, except his fellow titans Fortress Maximus, Skorponok, Trypticon and Omega Supreme. The best one can hope for is maybe a mini-statuette of OP to be included with the toy, although it would have to be either 3rd party or the Takara Tomy version--such tiny figures would never get past Hasbro's toy safety regulations, as they'd be choking hazards.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

That Bot wrote:Well, when I say Masterpiece-scaled, I mean a figure that is to scale with the current MP releases like Sideswipe is scaled to Optimus, not a figure that is the same size as them (which would actually be smaller than regular Fort Max). A Fort Max to scale with MP Sideswipe would be the size of a person, at a conservative estimate. The only way that's going to be $300 is if he's got minimal articulation and a bare-bones transformation.

Seeing as this is "supposed" to be FOC Metroplex toy...for it to scale in with even FOC Optimus, it would need to be even bigger than a human. In the game, Optimus was barely the size of Metroplex's fingernail (if he had fingernails) when standing on his hand in the beginning of chapter 3 (or was it 4?)



I honestly doubt Metroplex can scale in with any TF, except his fellow titans Fortress Maximus, Skorponok, Trypticon and Omega Supreme. The best one can hope for is maybe a mini-statuette of OP to be included with the toy, although it would have to be either 3rd party or the Takara Tomy version--such tiny figures would never get past Hasbro's toy safety regulations, as they'd be choking hazards.

Well Optimus does appear in the window at Plex's throat.

CBratetron wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

That Bot wrote:Well, when I say Masterpiece-scaled, I mean a figure that is to scale with the current MP releases like Sideswipe is scaled to Optimus, not a figure that is the same size as them (which would actually be smaller than regular Fort Max). A Fort Max to scale with MP Sideswipe would be the size of a person, at a conservative estimate. The only way that's going to be $300 is if he's got minimal articulation and a bare-bones transformation.

Seeing as this is "supposed" to be FOC Metroplex toy...for it to scale in with even FOC Optimus, it would need to be even bigger than a human. In the game, Optimus was barely the size of Metroplex's fingernail (if he had fingernails) when standing on his hand in the beginning of chapter 3 (or was it 4?)



I honestly doubt Metroplex can scale in with any TF, except his fellow titans Fortress Maximus, Skorponok, Trypticon and Omega Supreme. The best one can hope for is maybe a mini-statuette of OP to be included with the toy, although it would have to be either 3rd party or the Takara Tomy version--such tiny figures would never get past Hasbro's toy safety regulations, as they'd be choking hazards.

Well Optimus does appear in the window at Plex's throat.

Better than nothing, I guess.

I know they're fudging Metroplex's scale, and I don't mind. He'll tower over Legends and dominate Deluxes and Voyagers, even if they're not accurately scaled with each other. If they ignored scale with the MPs again to do a Fort Max, that'd probably be fine. But the whole point of remaking Optimus was to set a trend of MPs being in scale with one another in bot mode. Doing an out of scale Fort Max would sort of undermine that, even if it's the only realistic way they could do it.

That Bot wrote:I know they're fudging Metroplex's scale, and I don't mind. He'll tower over Legends and dominate Deluxes and Voyagers, even if they're not accurately scaled with each other. If they ignored scale with the MPs again to do a Fort Max, that'd probably be fine. But the whole point of remaking Optimus was to set a trend of MPs being in scale with one another in bot mode. Doing an out of scale Fort Max would sort of undermine that, even if it's the only realistic way they could do it.

That's true, although I wouldn't mind an MP FOC Metroplex with its own little articulated but non-transforming Optimus and Megatron figures. It's the same idea as Kotobukiya's MGS Rex model kit, with tiny figures of Liquid Snake, Solid Snake and Cyborg Ninja included.

Other MP titans like Trypticon, Omega Supreme and Fortress Maximus can have their own little figures that correspond to their respective characters in whatever universe their designs came from.

Like you said, it sort of undermines the new scale that MP-10 establishes, but it's an acceptable exception AFAIC when this is the only way we'll ever see an MP version of such massive characters.

Heck, they can even have a little "Mega-Masterpiece" subline for the city-formers like they did for the movie masterpiece Bumblebee and Starcream repaints.

That Bot wrote:Well, when I say Masterpiece-scaled, I mean a figure that is to scale with the current MP releases like Sideswipe is scaled to Optimus, not a figure that is the same size as them (which would actually be smaller than regular Fort Max). A Fort Max to scale with MP Sideswipe would be the size of a person, at a conservative estimate. The only way that's going to be $300 is if he's got minimal articulation and a bare-bones transformation.

I have to disagree. Namely because if this was 20 years ago, you would be 100% correct. However, since the acquisition of Takara, TOMY has shownt hat they can hire designers that can create scaled down Transformers and have these pieces retain MP-level articulation. However, a Lambor-scaled MP would result in they making a MP version of Fortress... As it would allow them to add Cerebros and other features that appeared in Headmasters. And it would be a better plan, as it would allow them to further this with other Headmasters, as well.

That Bot wrote:I know they're fudging Metroplex's scale, and I don't mind. He'll tower over Legends and dominate Deluxes and Voyagers, even if they're not accurately scaled with each other. If they ignored scale with the MPs again to do a Fort Max, that'd probably be fine. But the whole point of remaking Optimus was to set a trend of MPs being in scale with one another in bot mode. Doing an out of scale Fort Max would sort of undermine that, even if it's the only realistic way they could do it.

How do you know that they are fudging? I mean, it is not like how certain Subway restaurants serve 12" subs on incorrectly baked 11" long pieces of bread! So all I can say is that if the size is fudged, it is too minuscule to matter.

Oh, and my issue with TOMY's MP line is not the number of Convoys (3, with 4-6 additional variants of said molds in total), but rather the fact it went from quality to quantity. So I will leave this with the announcement that I want an MP version of the Headmasters, even if it means only having Fortress transform into the head of Fortress Maximus and Scorponok transforming into the head of MegaZarak.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Seeing as this is "supposed" to be FOC Metroplex toy...

How so? I don't see any such labels on the packaging that indicate such.

If anything, the toy's bio denotes him as being closest to IDW G1 Metroplex.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:However, a Lambor-scaled MP would result in they making a MP version of Fortress... As it would allow them to add Cerebros and other features that appeared in Headmasters. And it would be a better plan, as it would allow them to further this with other Headmasters, as well.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:So I will leave this with the announcement that I want an MP version of the Headmasters, even if it means only having Fortress transform into the head of Fortress Maximus and Scorponok transforming into the head of MegaZarak.

Seeing one use those names like that just makes me smile, as I hate it when one refers to the Japanese versions of the characters as "Cerebros" and "Zarak" when referring to the smaller bots who turn into the heads of the extra giant Transtector bodies.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:I have to disagree. Namely because if this was 20 years ago, you would be 100% correct. However, since the acquisition of Takara, TOMY has shownt hat they can hire designers that can create scaled down Transformers and have these pieces retain MP-level articulation. However, a Lambor-scaled MP would result in they making a MP version of Fortress... As it would allow them to add Cerebros and other features that appeared in Headmasters. And it would be a better plan, as it would allow them to further this with other Headmasters, as well.

A MP-scale Fortress/Cerebros would be feasible. But I don't see them making a Fortress Maximus in-scale with the other MP bots ever happening, for size reasons. This is, again, not to say that a non-scaled but still giant version couldn't happen. A 2 foot tall Fort Max with masterpiece-level articulation would be very well-received, I believe.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:How do you know that they are fudging? I mean, it is not like how certain Subway restaurants serve 12" subs on incorrectly baked 11" long pieces of bread! So all I can say is that if the size is fudged, it is too minuscule to matter.

Because one of this toy's features is those Autobots visible on his cabin window.
http://www.seibertron.com/events/fullsi ... 2&image=20
Those guys indicate the correct scale of the figure. I'm fairly certain that even the legends class figures are twice, if not three times, as big as the characters depicted in his window. Thus, he is out of scale by a significant factor. Do I really care? No. But it bears mentioning, especially with regard to a hypothetical MP Fort Max. As I said above, a correctly scaled Fort Max with the other MPs would likely be so enormous that they could never sell it. An out of scale Fort Max is possible, even if it goes against their attempt to keep all the MPs going forward in scale with each other. I don't think anybody would complain too much about a character like that not being in scale.

If Metroplex were made to scale with MP figures, you wouldn't be able to fit it in your house. It's alt mode would have to be the size of a small house, and bot mode would have to be about 100 feet tall. In the game, he holds Optimus in his hand and Optimus is smaller than one single joint of one of Metroplex's fingers.

If they made a Metroplex to scale with Cyberverse, again figuring it has to be big enough to crush OP with one finger, its bot mode would have to be twice the height of a human and its' alt mode would have to be the size of a car.

If you want other TF characters to be in scale with this new Metroplex, you'd have to make them yourself by painting their likenesses on grains of uncooked rice.