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Transformers 4 & 5 to Film Back to Back with Jason Statham?

Postby El Duque » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:56 am

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It was only this morning that we brought you news that Hasbro CEO Brian Goldner had mentioned active discussions with Paramount, Michael Bay, and Steven Spielberg for a fourth Transformers film, and the rumor mill is already churning. Collider, MovieWeb, and Showblitz are all three reporting that Transformers 4 and 5 may be filmed back to back, which could potentially save millions. Ehren Kruger is rumored to already have ideas for both potential sequels that Paramount are found of. According to the articles Shia LaBeouf is still out, and once again the Jason Statham rumor rears it's head. Keep in mind the Statham rumor first appeared a few months ago and was quickly dismissed by Michael Bay himself. Then again Bay also stated he was done with the Transformers franchise, and that seems like it may have changed based on Brian Goldner's comments. Sources report Bay is currently only slated as an executive producer along with Spielberg, but he may be interested in directing if he can get his body building movie Pain and Gain wrapped up prior the filming of Transformers 4. Obviously these should treated as rumors, but interesting ones none the less.
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Re: Transformers 4 & 5 to Film Back to Back with Jason Statham?

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Re: Transformers 4 & 5 to Film Back to Back with Jason Statham?

Postby Scatman Jazz » Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:33 am

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Ahahahahaha, let's hope this is not true. It's funny, I'm actually laughing at Michael Bay returning more than Jason Statham's rumored casting. I knew he wasn't stupid enough to walk away from the never ending gold mine that is the Transformer movie series. Would love to see another director get their hands on it, but hey, you know what they say: if it isn't broken, don't try fixing it. From an overall stand point, these movies need a complete overhaul in every category except for visuals. But hey, the fans eat it up, so why bother?
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Re: Transformers 4 & 5 to Film Back to Back with Jason Statham?

Postby Bounti76 » Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:42 am

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I'd personally LOVE to see more of the live-action movies.....in a few years. If they come out too soon, they run the risk of over-saturating the market with too much Transformers action and the corresponding toys. People just don't need 26 different versions of Bumblebee in such a short span of time. The DOTM line has already given us that. :evil:

If they were to come out in say....summer 2014 (or later), which is a little more than 2 1/2 years away and have a coherent plot without holes big enough to drive Optimus through...then I'd GLADLY welcome them. I'd love to see more of the war on Cybertron, maybe the entire history of Transformers on earth (which would be the only logical reason to include Dinobots) and maybe if it's really done as a two parter, then you could have Unicron at the end of the 4th movie as a cliffhanger leading into the 5th.

As far as the Jason Statham rumor...I've seen him in a few movies, and all they really required him to do was speak in a gravelly tone of voice and be badass, so it's hard to tell if he can really act or not. I'd like to have someone unknown, who can really act, be a part of the franchise- hopefully Shia won't come back as Sam unless it's a cameo. His schtick got pretty old from ROTF on.
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Re: Transformers 4 & 5 to Film Back to Back with Jason Statham?

Postby ausbot » Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:51 am

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They need a head/power/target/master type concept in the next films, human and robot working together.
This or something different because without something new the concept of just transforming robot will get stale with the normal film going public!
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Re: Transformers 4 & 5 to Film Back to Back with Jason Statham?

Postby Sodan-1 » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:24 am

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That's the sound of the cash cow fearing for it's life. I wouldn't mind so much if they were actually good movies. I'm with Scatman Jazz with regards everything but the visuals getting a workover.
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Re: Transformers 4 & 5 to Film Back to Back with Jason Statham?

Postby RhA » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:31 am

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Scatman Jazz wrote:Ahahahahaha, let's hope this is not true. It's funny, I'm actually laughing at Michael Bay returning more than Jason Statham's rumored casting. I knew he wasn't stupid enough to walk away from the never ending gold mine that is the Transformer movie series. Would love to see another director get their hands on it, but hey, you know what they say: if it isn't broken, don't try fixing it. From an overall stand point, these movies need a complete overhaul in every category except for visuals. But hey, the fans eat it up, so why bother?


Except for you, that is. Because you have an opinion and are not affraid to use it online.

Hurray for TF 4 BTW.
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Re: Transformers 4 & 5 to Film Back to Back with Jason Statham?

Postby lowman_x » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:49 am

Oh, for the love of Primus...

The first one I really enjoyed. The second one was pretty bad. The third one was up there as one of the worst films of 2011 that I've seen (it was only pipped at the post by "Your Highness" in my opinion... and maybe "Green Lantern").

I'm an avid Transformers fan (ask my wife) - I literally grew up with Optimus Prime. I've collected every incarnation of the comics (it's how I learned to read and draw - and subsequently become an art teacher years later), watched the cartoons from G1, G2 (with it's fancy-pants digital bits), Beast Wars, Beast Machines, The Cybertron Trilogy, Animated, Prime. I collect the figures (mainly Optimus Prime but I have begun to diversify). I've bought multiple versions of the '86 film, I have the extended '86 soundtrack (which is on pretty high rotation on my iPod - I heart you Vince DiCola), I also have the soundtracks for the first and second live-action films. I have bought the various Ultimate Guides and even bought the Transformers: Vault the moment I laid eyes on it at my local comic store. Why am I telling you this? Because of what I am about to write and I KNOW people are going to accuse me of not being a "true" Transformers fan just because I dare think something that is about Transformers is (Shock! Horror!) rubbish.



Dear Bay,

I have seen some sh*t in my time but this movie almost takes the crap-frosted cake. I mean, seriously? That's the best storyline you could come up with? That's the best acting you could get out of your thespians? Nothing but over-exaggerated caricatures and lame clichés? That's what you wanted, Bay? Throughout the whole three films you have had access to some pretty good actors and you don't really give them anything to do, anything to work with. You just blow sh*t up around them and tell them to yell a lot. And if they're not yelling then they're running so you can get the right money shot on the overly well-endowed young lady with the poorly supporting bra, or they're acting like hyperactive, sugared-up kids with too much red cordial running through their systems. Oh, and did I mention the yelling?

Okay, sure, have some lighter, funnier moments. Humour is an excellent juxtaposition for the serious, dramatic parts. Unfortunately, the drama was hackneyed and played out as just filler between disjointed action pieces. I mean, really? Did you just happen to throw random scenes at a wall and then use those that stuck, in the way that they landed? Did you just mine the Transformers' history and just randomly pick which bits to incorporate with no thought about how to do it effectively to create a cohesive (and intelligent) story?

I know, Michael. You're a "big bang" type of guy and you want to give the audience as much bang-for-its-buck but sometimes having a quiet, well-acted scene without cheesy dialogue and an even cheesier sh*tty slow song can actually have more "oomph" than all of your special effects explosions combined. This isn't a new concept, it's been around for years. It's called "story" mixed in with a bit of "drama".

I'll be honest, I wasn't going to see this film at the cinema. I was going to wait until it was out on DVD. Possibly even 'new-to-weekly' DVD or (probably) just wait til it was shown on TV. Why? Because I knew that the guy who helped write the second film was writing all of the third one. And the second film sucked pretty badly. So I had accepted in myself that I was not going to see the third film on the "big screen".

Alas, against my better judgement I ended up letting a friend convince me to go. So I went in with no expectations. Anything should have impressed me. Unfortunately, even those non-existent expectations weren't met.

This pains me because I am a pretty hardcore Transformers fan and I will forgive a lot (and when I say "a lot" I mean: "Shane McArthy"). I just couldn't this time. I couldn't walk out of that cinema thinking "Well, it was worth the cost...". It just wasn't. It wasn't worth the admission and it certainly wasn't worth the (considerable) time invested.

I now hear whisperings of a Transformers 4. Please, for the love of Unicron, don't. Or, if the producers feel the need to do it then get someone else to direct. Get Spielberg himself to do it. Or James Cameron (he does "epic blockbuster" pretty well). Or the guy who did Empire Strikes Back (the best movie out of that whole series) - if he's still alive. Just get Michael Bay and Ehren Kruger away from it.
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Re: Transformers 4 & 5 to Film Back to Back with Jason Statham?

Postby _Anshin_ » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:15 am

As far as this goes. Count me out. I know my opinion around the world counts for even less than whats on the bottom of my shoes, but seriously what else can you do?

You have giant robots that have mastered inter-stellar travel with advanced technology and just enough power to make huge explosions every time they fire a weapon only to be taken down by conventional bullets and fire extinguishers.

You have Autobots that are one step away from becoming shattered glass versions by killing every Decepticon, even those asking for a truce. The only cons that they left alive are the minicons that couldn't even hurt a human.

You have Decepticons that don't really hurt anyone and that take prisoners. Seriously the human Sam was taken prisoner in every movie. How many times can this happen before somebody thinks its a good idea to just stop taking him prisoner? You have the wreckers that are taken prisoner as well. WTF?

You have humans that virtually indestructible as they dangle from ropes and are slammed back and forth repeatedly into buildings.

You have physics such as bringing a planet into orbit around the earth without having an affect on tides, weather or anything else.

What is worse you have Optimus Prime keep loosing his trailer (something that appears sometimes from no where and attaches to him) and you keep killing off characters with personality and leaving Bumblebee to be a hero.

Lets do everyone a favor. We know you are going to make more movies. But instead of doing more stories with no continuity and plot holes large enough to drive a Transformer though lets try something different. Get rid of the humans. Get rid of Earth. Do 3 prequels on Cybertron. Lets learn some of the back story to some of the characters you have already established. Bah, what am I saying our only hope is that the Mayan calendar is right.
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Re: Transformers 4 & 5 to Film Back to Back with Jason Statham?

Postby Marcdachamp » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:06 am

_Anshin_ wrote:Lets do everyone a favor. We know you are going to make more movies. But instead of doing more stories with no continuity and plot holes large enough to drive a Transformer though lets try something different. Get rid of the humans. Get rid of Earth. Do 3 prequels on Cybertron. Lets learn some of the back story to some of the characters you have already established. Bah, what am I saying our only hope is that the Mayan calendar is right.


I see this plea at least once a week on this website. You guys DO realize that a Transformers movie with no Earth and no humans would literally kill this franchise, right?

Do you honestly think your casual movie-goer wants to see that? No, they don't. They want to see high-stakes action that makes them gasp and think "Oh my God, what if that did happen here?" The second you take away that human element, we're back to praying for the next Beast Wars to pull the franchise out of the fire.

You want movie-verse prequels and sequels with no humans that take place on Cybertron? Go buy IDW's Movie Prequel and Reign of Starscream comics. They're fun, and they have a majority of robot action.

And as for Statham and Bay? Yeah, I'd be down for that. That would probably be amazing, actually. I would like to see Shia cameo, though.
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