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Stallone was in pr0nz? No way.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Stallone was in pr0nz? No way.

Yes. He used the money from acting in a porno to help fund Rocky. Then when it was a huge hit he bought up every copy of the porn he made and burned it.

Hmm...never heard that 1 before...

Anyway, back to Mark Wahlberg...I just watched The Other Guys and it was pretty good. He's an OK comic actor. I prefer his other movies, though, like Four Brothers or Shooter. He did make garbage like Max Payne and The Fighter...

For me, what is beyond frustrating is that the robots never talk. The designs grew on me. I accepted the movies as a roller coaster ride of nonsense. But if you are a transformer, unless your name is mudflap, skids, megatron, or optimus prime, you don't talk, and I will always be something of a bayhater for that.

Is it that hard to make the main characters of a movie about transformers be main characters? I don't even care if their mouths don't move and it's a frozen still of the robot. Let them say something!

That's what I loved about Transformers and GI Joe as a kid -- all the great different personalities. Starscream is one of the great original character-types of all time, and you can count on two hands the number of words he utters in all three movies combined.

That said, I also got back into transformers because of the movies - even though I didn't like the movies. But I was excited for the movies, explored what's out there and discovered Animated - which is funny because it's really no different than the movies, but yet completely different. Its robots talk, for one, and it was friendly enough to share with my young kids.

yeah! that logo needs to make it better!

DarkEnergon wrote:For me, what is beyond frustrating is that the robots never talk. The designs grew on me. I accepted the movies as a roller coaster ride of nonsense. But if you are a transformer, unless your name is mudflap, skids, megatron, or optimus prime, you don't talk, and I will always be something of a bayhater for that.

Is it that hard to make the main characters of a movie about transformers be main characters? I don't even care if their mouths don't move and it's a frozen still of the robot. Let them say something!

That's what I loved about Transformers and GI Joe as a kid -- all the great different personalities. Starscream is one of the great original character-types of all time, and you can count on two hands the number of words he utters in all three movies combined.

That said, I also got back into transformers because of the movies - even though I didn't like the movies. But I was excited for the movies, explored what's out there and discovered Animated - which is funny because it's really no different than the movies, but yet completely different. Its robots talk, for one, and it was friendly enough to share with my young kids.

Haha very much agreed! I found it annoying that only certain Transformers talked too...And it doesn't just undermine the characters, it undermines the voice actors as well. (Poor Robert Foxworth, for example...Only three lines in ROTF and not many more in DOTM)

I'm writing my own fan-fic'd Transformers trilogy and the three main things I've concentrated on are; character, character and character. I've basically plotted out all the individual Autobot and Decepticon journeys (for they are supposed to be the focus, of course) and only relatively recently have I started weaving the humans into it (though I did decide early on that the Witwicky family were going to be a bit more 'useful' than their film counterparts...Especially the parents! Hehe )

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Thanks to the The Hollywood Reporter we have an update of the Transformers 4 casting process. Big news came last week when director Michael Bay confirmed that Mark Wahlberg will indeed take the lead role in the next installment of the Transformers franchise, but you may recall the earlier casting news that Paramount was looking for a young couple to play a high school senior aged girl and her race car driving boyfriend from Texas. According to The Hollywood Reported the the young female will be Wahlberg's daughter. Bay will begin testing for the two younger lead roles this week, here's the short list of actors and actress vying for the roles:

• Isabelle Cornish
• Abbie Cornish
• Nicola Peltz
• Margaret Quallay
• Gabriella Wilde

• Luke Grimes
• Landon Liboiron
• Brenton Thwaites
• Jack Reynor
• Hunter Parrish

The article goes on to say Paramount is signing the TF4 actors to a strict three film deal.

In a separate article on The Hollywood Reporter it was revealed that Thailand is being scouted as a potential filming location.

Ilt Jones, location manager for all three of the Transformers movies, has just wrapped up a tour of Thailand on behalf of Marvel, where he explored Bangkok as a potential shooting location for Transformers 4, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

so i guess it's safe to say that Michael Bay's been leaning towards blondes since he let go of Megan Fox

As much as I like Abbie Cornish (the only one on those lists I've actually heard of) isn't she a bit old to be playing a girl of high school age? She's older than those guys who could potentially play her fella.

Whatever. I'm so close to giving up on the whole Transformers movie thing anyway.

Sodan-1 wrote:As much as I like Abbie Cornish (the only one on those lists I've actually heard of) isn't she a bit old to be playing a girl of high school age?

Probably ... her younger sister however ...

So two Aussie chicks in this one. Making up for the lack of an Australian actress in the third film then.

Wait I thought Bay said he wanted to potentially bring back Shia down the line?

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... ia-176284/

Unless he plans on combining the new cast with the old cast in TF6 then you can guarantee the bots/cons will only get about 10 minutes screen time from TF6 onward.

Interview bit.

TMZ: So Michael, let’s talk about the fact that… you know.. you had couple of your Transformers Stars… you know… have some not-so-kind-things to say.

Michael: Listen guys, you got to understand, fame is very hard on young people. It’s… I kind of helped raise Shia for three movies. And it’s… it’s really tough. Fame is a very rough thing. And you know Shia LaBeouf is a great, great guy. He’s a great actor. And I have nothing but respect for him.

TMZ: Did you take offense or did it hurt when he said…

Michael: No, No.

TMZ: …His comment about not enough creativity doing these big blockbusters?

Michael: What he’s saying is he wants to be taken seriously. And sometimes when you’re in a blockbuster, people don’t take you seriously. You know? I think that’s what he’s really saying. He’s going through more of a smaller role.

TMZ: He’s in his Art House Stage now.

Michael: You know… listen… he’s only 26.

TMZ: So he will be back?

Michael: He will be back.

ReDPATH wrote:Wait I thought Bay said he wanted to potentially bring back Shia down the line?

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... ia-176284/

Unless he plans on combining the new cast with the old cast in TF6 then you can guarantee the bots/cons will only get about 10 minutes screen time from TF6 onward.

Interview bit.

TMZ: So Michael, let’s talk about the fact that… you know.. you had couple of your Transformers Stars… you know… have some not-so-kind-things to say.

Michael: Listen guys, you got to understand, fame is very hard on young people. It’s… I kind of helped raise Shia for three movies. And it’s… it’s really tough. Fame is a very rough thing. And you know Shia LaBeouf is a great, great guy. He’s a great actor. And I have nothing but respect for him.

TMZ: Did you take offense or did it hurt when he said…

Michael: No, No.

TMZ: …His comment about not enough creativity doing these big blockbusters?

Michael: What he’s saying is he wants to be taken seriously. And sometimes when you’re in a blockbuster, people don’t take you seriously. You know? I think that’s what he’s really saying. He’s going through more of a smaller role.

TMZ: He’s in his Art House Stage now.

Michael: You know… listen… he’s only 26.

TMZ: So he will be back?

Michael: He will be back.

I read that more as a "he'll be back in the limelight doing blockbusters" or working with Bay again, not necessarily back in TFs ... But who knows what he meant. Bay isn't exactly known for being honest about anything haha

Hopefully they don't cast any models. Those ho bags can't act.

Just Negare wrote:Hopefully they don't cast any models. Those ho bags can't act.

What if they cast an actress who also happens to model.

Technically, the Transformers appearing in the films are "models" as well, right? CGI models?

I can see Mark as Sam's big brother Buster (see original Marvel comics) but let's face it. Bay's movies made their money on name and Peter Cullin alone. The movies were craptacular at best and with Revenge of the fallen just plain crap.

Dammitman wrote:I can see Mark as Sam's big brother Buster (see original Marvel comics) but let's face it. Bay's movies made their money on name and Peter Cullin alone. The movies were craptacular at best and with Revenge of the fallen just plain crap.

Buster was the younger Witwicky brother in Marvel. He was the older bro in Dreamwave.

Sabrblade wrote:

Dammitman wrote:I can see Mark as Sam's big brother Buster (see original Marvel comics) but let's face it. Bay's movies made their money on name and Peter Cullin alone. The movies were craptacular at best and with Revenge of the fallen just plain crap.

Buster was the younger Witwicky brother in Marvel. He was the older bro in Dreamwave.

Either way, I have a feeling they'll change his name from Buster to something else. They turned Spike into Sam, probably to make the character sound more "normal." Or, they might preserve Buster as a nickname or something.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dammitman wrote:I can see Mark as Sam's big brother Buster (see original Marvel comics) but let's face it. Bay's movies made their money on name and Peter Cullin alone. The movies were craptacular at best and with Revenge of the fallen just plain crap.

Buster was the younger Witwicky brother in Marvel. He was the older bro in Dreamwave.

Either way, I have a feeling they'll change his name from Buster to something else. They turned Spike into Sam, probably to make the character sound more "normal." Or, they might preserve Buster as a nickname or something.

Wahlberg is playing the father of the lead role, which is that of a high school girl.

The Witwickys' story is practically done, and using another one kinda goes against the whole "fresh take with new characters" ordeal.

Sabrblade wrote:

Dammitman wrote:I can see Mark as Sam's big brother Buster (see original Marvel comics) but let's face it. Bay's movies made their money on name and Peter Cullin alone. The movies were craptacular at best and with Revenge of the fallen just plain crap.

Buster was the younger Witwicky brother in Marvel. He was the older bro in Dreamwave.

In what DreamWave comic did Buster appear? I remember Spike, but not Buster.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dammitman wrote:I can see Mark as Sam's big brother Buster (see original Marvel comics) but let's face it. Bay's movies made their money on name and Peter Cullin alone. The movies were craptacular at best and with Revenge of the fallen just plain crap.

Buster was the younger Witwicky brother in Marvel. He was the older bro in Dreamwave.

In what DreamWave comic did Buster appear? I remember Spike, but not Buster.

He was mentioned in some of the earlier ones, and appeared toward the end talking to Marissa Faireborn in his office in D.C. His face was obscured a bit, though, cutting off the top half.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:In what DreamWave comic did Buster appear? I remember Spike, but not Buster.

He was mentioned in some of the earlier ones, and appeared toward the end talking to Marissa Faireborn in his office in D.C. His face was obscured a bit, though, cutting off the top half.

Got a title and issue number?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:In what DreamWave comic did Buster appear? I remember Spike, but not Buster.

He was mentioned in some of the earlier ones, and appeared toward the end talking to Marissa Faireborn in his office in D.C. His face was obscured a bit, though, cutting off the top half.

Got a title and issue number?

Mentioned in "Prime Directive #1" and ongoing issue #9 "Lost and Found". Appeared in ongoing issue #10 "The Route of All Evil".

Also mentioned in book 1 of the Keepers Trilogy, "Hardwired".

Sabrblade wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dammitman wrote:I can see Mark as Sam's big brother Buster (see original Marvel comics) but let's face it. Bay's movies made their money on name and Peter Cullin alone. The movies were craptacular at best and with Revenge of the fallen just plain crap.

Buster was the younger Witwicky brother in Marvel. He was the older bro in Dreamwave.

Either way, I have a feeling they'll change his name from Buster to something else. They turned Spike into Sam, probably to make the character sound more "normal." Or, they might preserve Buster as a nickname or something.

Wahlberg is playing the father of the lead role, which is that of a high school girl.

The Witwickys' story is practically done, and using another one kinda goes against the whole "fresh take with new characters" ordeal.

Good point.

But then again, Bay said DOTM was his last movie, and yet here he is for TF4. The "fresh take with new characters" thing could mean anything, and there's nothing to stop them from going back on their word and giving us more of the same.

Technically, even if Wahlberg played Sam's older brother, it would still be considered a fresh take as long as the parents and Sam aren't featured in the movie. It'd be a new direction, just with another Witwicky.

Just my two cents' worth.

Update: Michael Bay has updated his official website with a message that this informatin is false:

Michael Bay wrote:Actor announcement on some web sites last night about Transformer cast joining Mark are completely false.

Those of you who have been keeping up with the Transformers 4 casting news as it trickles out will likely remember the news from last month that director Michael Bay had narrowed down his list of potential young actresses and actors to play Wahlberg's daughter and her boyfriend. twitch is reporting the selections have been made and we can look forward to seeing Nicola Peltz and Brenton Thwaites in these roles. According to twitch Thwaites will play "Peltz's biker boyfriend", though initial casting reports stated the character was a race car driver from Texas.