Sabrblade wrote:Fiction-wise, the Marvel Comics came first, before the cartoon.Rushie wrote:Also, "based on the Marvel comic series"?? How about: based on the (Japanese) toys? Or the 80's cartoon series? Those are surely more well known.
As for the toys, though the original molds were Japanese in origin, they weren't Transformers toys until Hasbro released them in America in 1984. Transformers didn't come to Japan until 1985.Thing is, they wanted him to be the common everyman that people could relate to, so they had him undergo a lot of common firsts: First car, first girlfriend, first day of college, first "I love you", first job, etc. Problem was that everything else in the movies (with the giant alien robots trying to kill each other) was more interesting, but they didn't get that and so kept milking Shia's role of Sam as the relatable Average Joe as much as they did.RiddlerJ wrote:Instead, the movies focus on Sam with his job hunts and girlfriends and parents and tons of other nonsense. The sequels intentually remove him from involvement from the main story and then bend over backward to work him back into the plot for no reason other than to complicate things. For parts 2 and 3 he should have been working for Nest from the get go, not spend 2/3's of the movie trying to worm his way back in.
My problem with Sam was that I didn't feel like he grew at all as a person/character. The Sam we had in transformers was the same Sam in Dark of the Moon.