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Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

Postby njb902 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:02 am

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Rushie wrote:Also, "based on the Marvel comic series"?? How about: based on the (Japanese) toys? Or the 80's cartoon series? Those are surely more well known.
Fiction-wise, the Marvel Comics came first, before the cartoon.

As for the toys, though the original molds were Japanese in origin, they weren't Transformers toys until Hasbro released them in America in 1984. Transformers didn't come to Japan until 1985. ;)

RiddlerJ wrote:Instead, the movies focus on Sam with his job hunts and girlfriends and parents and tons of other nonsense. The sequels intentually remove him from involvement from the main story and then bend over backward to work him back into the plot for no reason other than to complicate things. For parts 2 and 3 he should have been working for Nest from the get go, not spend 2/3's of the movie trying to worm his way back in.
Thing is, they wanted him to be the common everyman that people could relate to, so they had him undergo a lot of common firsts: First car, first girlfriend, first day of college, first "I love you", first job, etc. Problem was that everything else in the movies (with the giant alien robots trying to kill each other) was more interesting, but they didn't get that and so kept milking Shia's role of Sam as the relatable Average Joe as much as they did. :roll:


My problem with Sam was that I didn't feel like he grew at all as a person/character. The Sam we had in transformers was the same Sam in Dark of the Moon.
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Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:09 am

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njb902 wrote:My problem with Sam was that I didn't feel like he grew at all as a person/character. The Sam we had in transformers was the same Sam in Dark of the Moon.
Nah, he learned a lot overtime. How to scream, how to whine, how to yell, how to moan, how to make you question why you saw these films, etc. :P
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Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

Postby njb902 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:25 am

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njb902 wrote:My problem with Sam was that I didn't feel like he grew at all as a person/character. The Sam we had in transformers was the same Sam in Dark of the Moon.
Nah, he learned a lot overtime. How to scream, how to whine, how to yell, how to moan, how to make you question why you saw these films, etc. :P


Ah that made me laugh, thanks :APPLAUSE:
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Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:32 am

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njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rushie wrote:Also, "based on the Marvel comic series"?? How about: based on the (Japanese) toys? Or the 80's cartoon series? Those are surely more well known.
Fiction-wise, the Marvel Comics came first, before the cartoon.

As for the toys, though the original molds were Japanese in origin, they weren't Transformers toys until Hasbro released them in America in 1984. Transformers didn't come to Japan until 1985. ;)

RiddlerJ wrote:Instead, the movies focus on Sam with his job hunts and girlfriends and parents and tons of other nonsense. The sequels intentually remove him from involvement from the main story and then bend over backward to work him back into the plot for no reason other than to complicate things. For parts 2 and 3 he should have been working for Nest from the get go, not spend 2/3's of the movie trying to worm his way back in.
Thing is, they wanted him to be the common everyman that people could relate to, so they had him undergo a lot of common firsts: First car, first girlfriend, first day of college, first "I love you", first job, etc. Problem was that everything else in the movies (with the giant alien robots trying to kill each other) was more interesting, but they didn't get that and so kept milking Shia's role of Sam as the relatable Average Joe as much as they did. :roll:


My problem with Sam was that I didn't feel like he grew at all as a person/character. The Sam we had in transformers was the same Sam in Dark of the Moon.


We saw him "mature" from an 11th grader to a guy in college to a guy getting medals and a job. I saw him mature a little as well, but it wasn't enough to call it character development.

Although, he did kick Starscream's ass.
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Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:55 am

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PrymeStriker wrote:Although, he did kick Starscream's ass.
Pfft, that was pitiful. Screamer's all wailing around like a child instead of, you know, pulling the darn thing out of his eye. Sure, it would have been painful, but it'd be like ripping off a band-aid for him and would make him look less like a pathetic baby. Grow a spinal rod, Screamer. :roll:

And Sam so should have lost an arm during all that. No way would he have stayed in one piece with all that force being applied to his shoulder joint. ;)
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Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:59 am

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PrymeStriker wrote:Although, he did kick Starscream's ass.
Pfft, that was pitiful. Screamer's all wailing around like a child instead of, you know, pulling the darn thing out of his eye. Sure, it would have been painful, but it'd be like ripping off a band-aid for him and would make him look less like a pathetic baby. Grow a spinal rod, Screamer. :roll:


I'm probably the only one that found that scene entertaining. I was laughing at poor Screamer. :lol:

And Sam so should have lost an arm during all that. No way would he have stayed in one piece with all that force being applied to his shoulder joint. ;)


When I was watching that, I was hoping for the same thing. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:17 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah. And if they actually wrote the scripts based on the Marvel comics, the stories would be more fun and interesting. Because they would be about Transformers. I would love to see some of the Marvel story arcs put on screen. But I guess I am biased, because that's what i grew up with and that's what I hold every other series in comparison to.
I would agree, but the Marvel comics also had their fair share of lousy humans who took the spotlight more than they should have: Donny Finkleberg, Bomber Bill, Joey Slick, Cliff Dietz, the Spacehiker children, the Roadjammers, and worst of all, the Mechanic.

While some of these guys did only appear in one or two issues, their constant focus in said issues still made them less enjoyable reads.


Agreed. These characters generally disappeared once Furman took over, with the exception of the Binary Bonders and the Neo Knights. I still say some of the story arcs from the comics (especially later on) would make really good movies.
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Re: Transformers 4 casting news ... Mark Wahlberg announced!

Postby MINDVVIPE » Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:24 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:Although, he did kick Starscream's ass.
Pfft, that was pitiful. Screamer's all wailing around like a child instead of, you know, pulling the darn thing out of his eye. Sure, it would have been painful, but it'd be like ripping off a band-aid for him and would make him look less like a pathetic baby. Grow a spinal rod, Screamer. :roll:

And Sam so should have lost an arm during all that. No way would he have stayed in one piece with all that force being applied to his shoulder joint. ;)


You got that right, Sabrblade. It seemed like many of the Decepticon deaths were total letdowns. BB killing Soundwave? ya right! #-o BB is a scout, he shouldn't have the physical strength to pull off such crap, esp when its clearly just fisticuffs. And that screamer scene is exactly what I meant by formulaic... Sam somehow survives the whipping around, and on top of that, gets saved JUST in time by BB. After a while, these close calls are just pointless coz sam will always make it.
I'm just happy I got to see him get beat to shit in lawless. :DANCE:
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