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The Dude wrote:Ok. Think about this.

Tim Burton.

Can you imagine how freaking cool a Tim Burton-style Transformer would look? Can you imagine all the crazy awesome sets on a Burton-influenced Cybertron? Can you imagine Johnny Depp as Optimus Prime?

Autobot-Hellstriker wrote:As long as a competent director can make a good alternate franchise then i wouldn't care much about who would be chosen.

But as long as it won't be M.Night Shyamalan, the foolish man who humiliated "Avatar: The Last Airbender" series with his movie version.

Jaw Crusher wrote:Throw enough money at them and I think either of these two would be a good fit (although in all honesty, I think McG or Ratner would be more likely candidates than Favreau).

Capt.Failure wrote:The ultimate irony, of course, will be when the Bayhaters get their messiah figure in the form of a new director and what he directs will be nothing like Transformers. I don't mean the superficial things like new designs or slightly more human emphasis that Bayhaters complain about. I mean total obliteration of everything that makes Transformers what it is for the sake of the director's "artistic vision."

You can imagine it based on the director you chose:

Nolan - Gritty realism for realism's sake. Expect Transformers to be human constructs and not Cybertronian: no sparks, no Matrix. Expect Nolan to turn characters into self inserts to spout his socio-political beliefs alongside tons of faux cerebral plot elements.'

Snyder - Brown n' bloom, gritty as hell, ultraviolence, even more shallow characters than the Bayverse. Also SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOspeedup!SLOOOOOWMOOOOOOspeedup!.

Spielberg - The main cast is a group of kids all 12 or younger. The Transformers don't have speaking rolls and are all cutesy and have a total 1 minute of screentime. Also Optimus Prime survives a nuclear blast by hiding in a fridge and Shia Lebouf is still in it somehow.

Lucas - Mind blowing visuals on an epic scale, adds unnecessary "scientific" explanations for the mysterious aspects of Cybertronian life (mitichlorians, much?). Will be fine at release but get rereleased 20 times, each new cut worse than the last until everyone hates it.

Abrams - No plot, no lore, just a sequence of events that will make no sense unless you religiously followed the Alternate Reality Game that was active in the years leading up to the film's release. It's also all a dream, except when it's really time travel.

Basically what I'm trying to say is be careful what you wish for. You just might get it and regret it. Then you'll be begging for Bay to return.

shamone wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:The ultimate irony, of course, will be when the Bayhaters get their messiah figure in the form of a new director and what he directs will be nothing like Transformers. I don't mean the superficial things like new designs or slightly more human emphasis that Bayhaters complain about. I mean total obliteration of everything that makes Transformers what it is for the sake of the director's "artistic vision."

You can imagine it based on the director you chose:

Nolan - Gritty realism for realism's sake. Expect Transformers to be human constructs and not Cybertronian: no sparks, no Matrix. Expect Nolan to turn characters into self inserts to spout his socio-political beliefs alongside tons of faux cerebral plot elements.'

Snyder - Brown n' bloom, gritty as hell, ultraviolence, even more shallow characters than the Bayverse. Also SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOspeedup!SLOOOOOWMOOOOOOspeedup!.

Spielberg - The main cast is a group of kids all 12 or younger. The Transformers don't have speaking rolls and are all cutesy and have a total 1 minute of screentime. Also Optimus Prime survives a nuclear blast by hiding in a fridge and Shia Lebouf is still in it somehow.

Lucas - Mind blowing visuals on an epic scale, adds unnecessary "scientific" explanations for the mysterious aspects of Cybertronian life (mitichlorians, much?). Will be fine at release but get rereleased 20 times, each new cut worse than the last until everyone hates it.

Abrams - No plot, no lore, just a sequence of events that will make no sense unless you religiously followed the Alternate Reality Game that was active in the years leading up to the film's release. It's also all a dream, except when it's really time travel.

Basically what I'm trying to say is be careful what you wish for. You just might get it and regret it. Then you'll be begging for Bay to return.

yep that sums up all those directors accurately, but sadly we got all those negative elements in the three bay movies

- into self inserts to spout his socio-political beliefs alongside tons of faux cerebral plot element
America rocks, violence is the only way, blow shit up are bays views and reflected in movies

- shallow characters ala snyder. Could you make more shallow characters than the bay bots. Ultra violence, you substitute humans for transformers and you are looking at 18's for the bay flicks

- the bots aside from bee, prime and megs, had about one line each, if any.

- no plot, sequence of events. You saw rotf right. But you need to read the comics, expanded universe to knwo what happened to jolt, bees voice etc

shamone wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:The ultimate irony, of course, will be when the Bayhaters get their messiah figure in the form of a new director and what he directs will be nothing like Transformers. I don't mean the superficial things like new designs or slightly more human emphasis that Bayhaters complain about. I mean total obliteration of everything that makes Transformers what it is for the sake of the director's "artistic vision."

You can imagine it based on the director you chose:

Nolan - Gritty realism for realism's sake. Expect Transformers to be human constructs and not Cybertronian: no sparks, no Matrix. Expect Nolan to turn characters into self inserts to spout his socio-political beliefs alongside tons of faux cerebral plot elements.'

Snyder - Brown n' bloom, gritty as hell, ultraviolence, even more shallow characters than the Bayverse. Also SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOspeedup!SLOOOOOWMOOOOOOspeedup!.

Spielberg - The main cast is a group of kids all 12 or younger. The Transformers don't have speaking rolls and are all cutesy and have a total 1 minute of screentime. Also Optimus Prime survives a nuclear blast by hiding in a fridge and Shia Lebouf is still in it somehow.

Lucas - Mind blowing visuals on an epic scale, adds unnecessary "scientific" explanations for the mysterious aspects of Cybertronian life (mitichlorians, much?). Will be fine at release but get rereleased 20 times, each new cut worse than the last until everyone hates it.

Abrams - No plot, no lore, just a sequence of events that will make no sense unless you religiously followed the Alternate Reality Game that was active in the years leading up to the film's release. It's also all a dream, except when it's really time travel.

Basically what I'm trying to say is be careful what you wish for. You just might get it and regret it. Then you'll be begging for Bay to return.

yep that sums up all those directors accurately, but sadly we got all those negative elements in the three bay movies

- into self inserts to spout his socio-political beliefs alongside tons of faux cerebral plot element
America rocks, violence is the only way, blow shit up are bays views and reflected in movies

- shallow characters ala snyder. Could you make more shallow characters than the bay bots. Ultra violence, you substitute humans for transformers and you are looking at 18's for the bay flicks

shamone wrote:- the bots aside from bee, prime and megs, had about one line each, if any.

shamone wrote:- no plot, sequence of events. You saw rotf right. But you need to read the comics, expanded universe to knwo what happened to jolt, bees voice etc

SlyTF1 wrote:

shamone wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:The ultimate irony, of course, will be when the Bayhaters get their messiah figure in the form of a new director and what he directs will be nothing like Transformers. I don't mean the superficial things like new designs or slightly more human emphasis that Bayhaters complain about. I mean total obliteration of everything that makes Transformers what it is for the sake of the director's "artistic vision."

You can imagine it based on the director you chose:

Nolan - Gritty realism for realism's sake. Expect Transformers to be human constructs and not Cybertronian: no sparks, no Matrix. Expect Nolan to turn characters into self inserts to spout his socio-political beliefs alongside tons of faux cerebral plot elements.'

Snyder - Brown n' bloom, gritty as hell, ultraviolence, even more shallow characters than the Bayverse. Also SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOspeedup!SLOOOOOWMOOOOOOspeedup!.

Spielberg - The main cast is a group of kids all 12 or younger. The Transformers don't have speaking rolls and are all cutesy and have a total 1 minute of screentime. Also Optimus Prime survives a nuclear blast by hiding in a fridge and Shia Lebouf is still in it somehow.

Lucas - Mind blowing visuals on an epic scale, adds unnecessary "scientific" explanations for the mysterious aspects of Cybertronian life (mitichlorians, much?). Will be fine at release but get rereleased 20 times, each new cut worse than the last until everyone hates it.

Abrams - No plot, no lore, just a sequence of events that will make no sense unless you religiously followed the Alternate Reality Game that was active in the years leading up to the film's release. It's also all a dream, except when it's really time travel.

Basically what I'm trying to say is be careful what you wish for. You just might get it and regret it. Then you'll be begging for Bay to return.

yep that sums up all those directors accurately, but sadly we got all those negative elements in the three bay movies

- into self inserts to spout his socio-political beliefs alongside tons of faux cerebral plot element
America rocks, violence is the only way, blow shit up are bays views and reflected in movies

- shallow characters ala snyder. Could you make more shallow characters than the bay bots. Ultra violence, you substitute humans for transformers and you are looking at 18's for the bay flicks

Sentinel wasn't shallow, neither was Megatron, or Optimus.

shamone wrote:- the bots aside from bee, prime and megs, had about one line each, if any.

Starscream in ROTF and DOTM had more than one line, so did Sideswipe, Ratchet, Ironhide, The Fallen, Wheelie, Jazz, Barricade (He only had like 2 though. It's still more than 1.), Brains, Dino (Another 2 liner), Que, Sentinel Prime, Soundwave, Lazerbeak, Frenzy, Skids, and Mudflap. They all had more than 1 line.

shamone wrote:- no plot, sequence of events. You saw rotf right. But you need to read the comics, expanded universe to knwo what happened to jolt, bees voice etc

Too bad ROTF did have a plot. Allspark gives Sam Cybertronian knowledge, he doesn't know how to read it, they try to figure out what it means and ends up getting Optimus killed, so he has to figure out what these symbols mean while he has the death of Optimus on his shoulders, and it turns out the symbols point him to the key to save earth from The Fallen.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

Jaw Crusher wrote:Throw enough money at them and I think either of these two would be a good fit (although in all honesty, I think McG or Ratner would be more likely candidates than Favreau).

I certainly hope not. CA: FT was awful and Terminator Salvation was just so-so, the latter being McG's best effort yet, which isn't saying much.

Ratner? The Rush Hour movies ranged from passable to pointless. Personally, I think he's several rungs below Bay, which isn't saying much either.

Jaw Crusher wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

Jaw Crusher wrote:Throw enough money at them and I think either of these two would be a good fit (although in all honesty, I think McG or Ratner would be more likely candidates than Favreau).

I certainly hope not. CA: FT was awful and Terminator Salvation was just so-so, the latter being McG's best effort yet, which isn't saying much.

Ratner? The Rush Hour movies ranged from passable to pointless. Personally, I think he's several rungs below Bay, which isn't saying much either.

Precisely why I think they'd be more likely to be involved in TF than Favreau or Abrams.