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Requiem Prime wrote:A reboot (check)
A new asthetic (You'll need to market new toy designs, right?)
A new director (it could happen)

And finally, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather see a return of Hot Shot than another army of Bumblebee.

Sodan-1 wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:One request. It's petty I know, but can this Transformers film, please please please, be focused on..... Transformers?

You're a madman!! Clap him in irons, please. For the sake of the children!

Sodan-1 wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:For the love of Primus don't title it Trans4mers.

Oh nose! You've done it now, Quick! Can someone buy the rights to that in order to keep it from Paramount's grubby corporate hands?

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I...want to hope that the word 're-imagining' is a good thing, but I just don't know. I just don't know.

Just stop making TF movies altogether. At least for another decade anyways. By then hopefully a new director would be considered for a reboot.

Megatron Wolf wrote: **** it all

"re imagining of Transformers" it doesnt matter how you package it as long as bay and the same morons are attached its still going to be more of the same crap, either completely hand it over to Spielberg and see what he can do on his own or give it to a totally new crew. This franchise needs a reboot fast and Bay and the boys cant pull it off.

Needs a reboot fast huh?.. Based off what exactly? What proof do you have that a re boot with another director will benefit the franchise other than your personal dislike for Bay and his style? cause last time i checked, transformers as a whole is doing better than they ever have.

Megatron Wolf wrote:They need to get rid of bayformers and anything remotely resembling it (tfprime) and start brand new, new crew new ideas new beginning.

Again, why? cause you and some fans who don't even make up 10% of the overall audience don't like it? And TF: Prime is one of the most successfully series to date with majority of the general audience, fans, and even critics. so please, what evidence do you have that TF needs to have a reboot,... and fast!

Megatron Wolf wrote:Maybe actually hire some people who have been fans since the 80s and 90s so there are people that know the franchise and didnt just google it.

Yes, because being fans of transforming vehicles automatically means that you will ex el in writing, directing, filming, special effects, and bringing all this tighter on film. Nor does them being a fan since the 80's and 90's guarantee that their vision will be the same as yours. Case in point, me and you.
I'm 30, been a fan since the 80's and given your dislike with the movies and TF:Prime, i can almost guarantee you that our visions of a reboot would greatly differ from each other.

A reboot doesn't grater anything. For all we know it could make things 10 times worse. Like Bay or not, he has brought TF back and in a good light. TF as as popular as ever and even if you don't like the movies, their success has brought about additional games (war for cybertron), toy lines/figures, shows etc. so unless you haven't enjoyed anything TF related since 07', you have reaped the benefits from these movies one way or another.

It's not so much Bay's style that confounds me. Actually, explosion obsession goes well with waring alien robots. It's everything else. A lot is the scripting. Terrible story telling. I know the movies grossed a metric $*&(^ ton of money, but they (all 3) got terrible reviews from not only critics, but many fans. The movies fall into an all flash, no substance category for me. It's as if, they don't really count. My complaint, is that as long as the movies continue the way they are going, it will always be a joke, summer action flick with no merit for story telling or character development. These movies will not impact another generation like previous iterations of transformers have. Why? because every movie now has jaw dropping special effects, 3d features and T & A. They are not special or exceptional in any way.

GetRightRobot wrote:It's not so much Bay's style that confounds me. Actually, explosion obsession goes well with waring alien robots. It's everything else. A lot is the scripting. Terrible story telling. I know the movies grossed a metric $*&(^ ton of money, but they (all 3) got terrible reviews from not only critics, but many fans. The movies fall into an all flash, no substance category for me. It's as if, they don't really count. My complaint, is that as long as the movies continue the way they are going, it will always be a joke, summer action flick with no merit for story telling or character development. These movies will not impact another generation like previous iterations of transformers have. Why? because every movie now has jaw dropping special effects, 3d features and T & A. They are not special or exceptional in any way.

The G1 cartoon wasn't that special either, but people are still enamored with it. So enamored in fact that it's practically a weird obsession. It was a 30 minute toy commercial and nothing more. No great character development, no deep stories, just a bunch of robots looking cool so kids would cry and scream for their parents to buy the toys. And you know what? We loved it anyway.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:It's not so much Bay's style that confounds me. Actually, explosion obsession goes well with waring alien robots. It's everything else. A lot is the scripting. Terrible story telling. I know the movies grossed a metric $*&(^ ton of money, but they (all 3) got terrible reviews from not only critics, but many fans. The movies fall into an all flash, no substance category for me. It's as if, they don't really count. My complaint, is that as long as the movies continue the way they are going, it will always be a joke, summer action flick with no merit for story telling or character development. These movies will not impact another generation like previous iterations of transformers have. Why? because every movie now has jaw dropping special effects, 3d features and T & A. They are not special or exceptional in any way.

The G1 cartoon wasn't that special either, but people are still enamored with it. So enamored in fact that it's practically a weird obsession. It was a 30 minute toy commercial and nothing more. No great character development, no deep stories, just a bunch of robots looking cool so kids would cry and scream for their parents to buy the toys. And you know what? We loved it anyway.

I noticed the same damn thing while I've been watching G1 the past few weeks. At least the movies try to have a story.

I for one am excited to see what it's going to be.

GetRightRobot wrote:It's as if, they don't really count.

And thats all that has to be said for my take on the movies. They don't count. They're the happy meal equivalent of the Generations toyline. Done.

i'm guessing "re-imagining" is just a fancy word they're using to sound cool. i doubt this will be some reboot where the first 3 movies are completely ignored. if it was a whole new team behind the scenes i might believe that but its the same director and producers and likely the same writer(s) and i'm guessing at the very least one actor will return, whether its Shia or one of the military boys.

so i'm pretty sure by "re-imagining", they just meant it'll be the start of a new storyline. so basically what sequels usually are, a new story with the same characters and not part of some overflowing arc. not that the original 3 really had an arc but with the deaths of the final decepticons this franchise introduced in the last movie, it'll be time for a new threat.

We allllll knew another movie was coming, so I'm happy to hear the confirmation. I'm no Bay-hater, but I was hoping for a new director - if only to get a different direction/theme for the movies.

But hey, this means new toys from 2014-on, and this give me much more faith that we'll see a steady stream of good stuff released between now and then!