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5150 Cruiser wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:

I don't think Blur and Drift are "officially" announced either but this is a Bay TF production so it's not going to matter anyways. None of the characters save for maybe Prime, Ratchet and 'Bee are going to be what we think they are OR even what is officially announced by the time this monster hits the actual big screen.

To be fair, Hound was officially announced on Bay's web site and so far every "official" announcement has turned out to hold all the way till the movie. The other "Names" have so far been nothing more than fan speculation at this point

T-Macksimus wrote: As for Rollbar, yeah I know that turned out to be a fan vehicle but the biggest thing at the time was the amount of hype and speculation until it was revealed, the same as we are getting over the rally cars/flat black vehicles. Also the same stuff we get over everything that rolls onto the set that isn't a blatant POS (piece of ****) vehicle that the average Joe can snap a cell phone pic of. Too much assumption, speculation and "fan-boy" wank material and not enough fact finding. Follow that up with a general lack of self control on the part of 90% of the fan population and you get so much b.s. that it kills the fun of even following these films.

Again, to be fair the flat black vehicles were seen being filmed in various chase scenes as well as being loaded on the back of Paramount filming trucks. So they are movie vehicles. What isn't known as of yet is whether or not there bot alt modes or just NEST type human vehicles. Unlike the fan made "Rolebar" to whom the fandom made the assumption that it was in the movie without ever seeing it being filmed. Heck, it never even got unloaded from its trailer.

I see what you mean though. A lot of people see something and start making bland assumptions without ever knows facts. Now that in of itself is pretty harmless and can be half the fun of following the movies as there being made. What takes away from it all is when people start making judgments based on assumptions. Making claims of ruining characters without even knowing for sure who it is stupid and foolish (Non of this is directed at you. Just making a blank statement of my observations thus far since the release of the vehicles) Personally, i don't believe the rusty truck is Grimlock. To many cues point to an alt mode for Prime (flames, retro flat nose, faded white stripe going down the side of the cab)

I still say that truck is way too small to be Optimus.

Rodimus2006 wrote:to me being with Transformers since day 1 1984-2013 being next year marks my 30th Anniversary of being a Transfan I would be ok with Unicron being in the 2nd Trilogy.

To me, being with Transformers since day 1, 1984-2013 and next year being my 30th Anniversary of being a Transformers fan, I'd hate to see Unicron being in these next three movies because I'd like a movie about alien robots that can change, actually having something original instead of stuff rehashed from 30 years of stories.

Next year is a big time deal for me 30 YEARS cant believe I have been with this stuff for that many years is beyond unreal.

This may come as a surprise ... but a lot of us are in the same position. Can we all get badges to this club?

Burn people dont even keep thier cars, wives or familes or marriages for 30 years or even a home to stay with something for 3 Decades is a milestone for all of us.

I know i am not the only one who has been doing this since day 1 you and others on here have been through it all, watched it all, read it all, and we are still doing it even though we are adults now.

The thing about it is I maybe an adult now instead a small kid back in 1984 I am never going to stop loving & watching, collecting or reading my Transformers in any way shape or form.

I am just a passionate fan like all of you are such as I am about games which I have been playing my games since 1982 with the Atari 2600 so games have been the only thing I have done more than Transformers or been with longer.

But still Transformers 4 is headed into the right direction I am hoping that this is indeed Blur but given the Movie-Verse I doubt that Blur will use his Original VA from G1.

Also about Grimlock this has not been confirmed that it is Grimlock so for now It is Rumors & speculations regarding him.

Me I am hoping it is Grimlock but the thing is will this be like a Grimlock Dinobot just in Vehicle mode retaining his Dinobot Mind saying the classic Line ME GRIMLOCK KICK BUT.

Only time will tell.

Burn wrote:

Rodimus2006 wrote:to me being with Transformers since day 1 1984-2013 being next year marks my 30th Anniversary of being a Transfan I would be ok with Unicron being in the 2nd Trilogy.

To me, being with Transformers since day 1, 1984-2013 and next year being my 30th Anniversary of being a Transformers fan, I'd hate to see Unicron being in these next three movies because I'd like a movie about alien robots that can change, actually having something original instead of stuff rehashed from 30 years of stories.

Next year is a big time deal for me 30 YEARS cant believe I have been with this stuff for that many years is beyond unreal.

This may come as a surprise ... but a lot of us are in the same position. Can we all get badges to this club?

rehashed? isn't that what everyone here wants? not many people want anything original.

i think what the movies have tried to do are use recognizable names (for true fans) with different alt modes and/or personalities, just to make it different. but no one here wants that. they want red and blue prime, white ratchet, red ironhide, and so on.


also, another reason speculation can be detrimental is when people think such and such a vehicle is a certain character, and they base everything else they see on that vehicle and who they think it is.. and when it turns out their assumption was wrong, they're already disappointed before ever seeing the movie.

i hope at this point everyone's expectations are more realistic. it's going to be a big summer blockbuster, it's going to look great, but for the most part, and for most people the substance won't be there.

i'm okay with that, would i prefer something like the iron man movies.. yes. but i'm happy with turning my brain off and watching something that's visually spectacular.. and i'm not ashamed to say that when i watch the movies in the theater, i actually do get caught up in the story at some points.


as for the toys. if you don't like the designs to begin with, i don't think you can really judge the toys correctly. and me, being someone that really enjoys the designs of the robots can't really have an unbiased opinion either. . but i do think there were quite a few really solid toys that these movies have produced (mostly in rotf and dotm)


but hey.. at this point, there are people who enjoyed the movies, and people who didn't. and i don't think another movie is really going to change that. some of the people who don't like them didn't like them from the beginning, whether it was the aesthetic of the bots, or the personalities, or even the color of their alt modes.. i feel bad that they just can't see past that and enjoy something that looks awesome.

when i go to the movies, i'm looking to be entertained, i'm not hoping to see the greatest movie ever made. i think that's why the movies as a whole, for me, have been enjoyable to watch.

regarding me being with TF for 30+ years I am just saying that is a big deal, and yes I releaze that alot of people have been with it since day 1 like I have 'WE ARE THE ELITE FANS or TRUE TRANSFANS" We have been with it all, We have seen it all, and despite us being Adults now we still love it just as much when we were small kids back in the 80s even more so now is just amazing.

The only thing i have been with equally as long is my videogames which I began with them in 1982 back on the Wooden Panel Atari 2600 so 2 years more than Transformers as TF didnt begin until 1984.

But regarding the movie, I am just hoping it is a nice transition from Old to the new School of Characters, many will not like this, they want the old ones.

This is the same with games being Dragon Age or Mass Effect, it isnt going to happen with the Un-Titled Mass Effect not having Shepard and with Dragon Age Inquistion not being Hawke or The Warden.

But this dosent mean that you will not re-see old characters being possibly Tyresse or Lennox or others but as for Shia he is done & finished as with Hawke, Warden, Shepard never been seen again.

New Stories, new Generation, yet still in that same universe such as 4 will be a Few years after DOMT ended. So will Dragon Age 3 being a few years after 2 ended but the game will take directly after the events of the novel called ASUNDER.

Unknown on the Un-Titled Mass Effect some are saying Future being in 3185 a 1000 years after Shepard, some are saying Prequel meaning before Shepard, some are saying a Story within a Story being in that Time Frame.

While with TF 4 it is the same Universe, Sametime, just a new generation of Characters.

My hopes are with Galvatron not being a Reborn Megatron, but being my idea being a Seperated Character sort of Megatron's Teacher/Mentor or his Brother.

Galvatron is Brillaint, Tatcian, Brutal, Homicadal, and Uncaring Torturing & Killing the Autobots to lure out and Toture OP while reveling in his actions in other words Galvatron is a Sadist but Brillaint.

I think we can safely say we're all liking Galvatron for this one.

RhA wrote::lol: I think we can safely say we're all liking Galvatron for this one.

Nope. Do not want.

RhA wrote::lol: I think we can safely say we're all liking Galvatron for this one.

As long as he's Megatron.

Why in the blue monkey crap would you want Megatron back again, hello He Died in DOTM so the only logical choice is Galvatron.

Also I hope that characters that died in DOTM will remain dead being Starscream, Soundwave and others, a character that dies should stay dead & should not be rebooted or re-used.

It isnt like they dont have options to replace Starscream or Soundwave with others being Thundercracker, Skywarp, Slipstream, or my new character I invented called AfterBurner who would be a Intellengence Officer like Soundwave but would be a Predator Drone similar towards Prime's Soundwave's Alt. Mode

AfterBurner would also use Frenzy, Buzzsaw and Ratbat has her minions but unlike Soundwave AfterBurner is a Ninjabot being Stealthy, Sneaky sort of like Prowl from Transformers Animated.

Also my versions of Rumble, Buzzsaw and RatBat wouldnt look like Lazerbeak from DOTM or Rumble looking like Frenzy these would be new deals in a new way.

Since these are smaller minions they could transform into smaller things such as a Lawnmower, ATVs, Weapons, and other small things such as these.

I myself would love TrailBreaker nobody is even talking about Trailbreaker why no love for him, he would be an awesome replacement for Ironhide.

I sincerly doubt that Tidal Wave, or Metroplex or Trypticon would ever be used given thier massive sizes.

But one Idea I have would be with TidalWave what would his Alt.Mode be. easy Remember in the movie BattleShip remember those cool Alien Warships in the Water that would be TidalWaves Alt. Mode.

They could just copy that from Battleship to save on the CGI cost.

While Trailbreaker could be like a Land Rover, Jeep Grand Cherrokee or other heavy truck like a Hummer H3. Or maybe a Honda Rigdgeliner or a Nissan Frontier.

Battleship was a Universal film. Transformers is Paramount. Even though they both have Hasbro backing, they can't/won't borrow CG models from each other.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Why in the blue monkey crap would you want Megatron back again, hello He Died in DOTM so the only logical choice is Galvatron.

Given that he died in the first one and they brought him back ... AS MEGATRON ... in Revenge of the Fallen, then that line of logic doesn't apply.

Besides, Galvatron has pretty much been established as his own character these days. The days of him being an upgraded Megatron are gone.

Just my 0.02, but I feel it's for the best that Megatron be left to rust in peace. Physically, he's gone from bad to worse with each new movie. It's hard to create any suspense or tension with him the way he is. And frankly, it's just sad to see a once bad-ass villain being kicked around like he was in DOTM.

IMO, Sentinel was the only real threat in DOTM.

If Galvatron's going to be the new villain, so be it.

It looks as though director Michael Bay plans on adding yet another ultra high end sports car to the "Transformers 4" roster. This morning his official website was updated with an image of a red 2013 Pagani Huayra withe following caption. No word on how this vehicle will be used in the film, but as always we'll update when news becomes available. Check it out below.

Considered a masterpiece of design and engineering, this fierce, 2013 blood red Pagani Huayra, is named after an ancient Andean God of Wind. High resolution photo: http://bayhem.com/15BERvQ

From that angle the car just looks weird.

Looks great. I never even heard of a this car before but if its worthy of the super coupe label then it must be really fast. And that's what I like. Fast sports cars and fast sports cars transformers. It also seems like Mr. Bay is going for the saying that you either do a little or a lot and he is doing a lot of sports cars and if this vehicle turns out to get a toy then it better have some silver rims not those ugly very ugly black rims.
Overall, very pleased with this new addition.

I'm sorry but, am I the only one underwhelmed by the vehicles for this movie so far? Looking back, the cars from the previous trilogy were more defined and spread out in design as well as seemed more distinct of character, where as three of the new cars revealed for this film kinda look alike too much for my taste. (Not saying several cars from the previous trilogy didn't look alike, just that they did a good job at keeping them look different enough.)

Here is a read up of the 2013 Pagani Huayra:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagani_Huayra. for those who are interested. It is one nice car!

After seeing how the entire car looks in some pics I just saw. Somehody was totally spot on in saying that this Pagani vehicle looks like Hot Rod without the spoiler. And I personally would not be mad if it turns out to be him. The rear of this vehicle looks like the back of a land space ship if that made any since, lml, that's a good thing though.

I want them to start telling us which characters will get these spectacular sports cars especially this Pagani and that phenomenal Bugatti.

This is my lesson learned from the previous movies. No matter how cool the cars look, if their robot designs are still those piece of crap, I'm not going to buy them. Or if I buy them, they will eventually be sold pretty soon. Wait, if there is a toy first. Remembered in DOTM, how badly I wanted a HA Dino but it never happened. Don't get me wrong. I like those movies, but later I found really not the toys. ROTF leader Prime is the only movie toy I've left.

Slashercon wrote:I'm sorry but, am I the only one underwhelmed by the vehicles for this movie so far? Looking back, the cars from the previous trilogy were more defined and spread out in design as well as seemed more distinct of character, where as three of the new cars revealed for this film kinda look alike too much for my taste. (Not saying several cars from the previous trilogy didn't look alike, just that they did a good job at keeping them look different enough.)

You're not the only one who isn't overly impressed with this move towards high-end "super cars". I'd rather see a selection of average or slightly above average vehicles used, something that makes the whole "Robots in Disguise" premise actually plausible. The over-priced, over-hyped, impossible to attain cars aren't disguises, they're a rich mans way of compensating for a lack of personality or penis (or both) and I think Bay is showing off that fact brilliantly by overloading this film with these vehicles. These cars are impractical to say the very least unless their purpose is to make me even more appreciative of the classic Camaro form that 'Bee is using in which case it's working perfectly. I hate to say it but so far "Bee, Hound and Grimlock are the only 3 thoroughly rugged vehicles on the entire set. Even the black rally rigs are just fiberglass shells over a roll cage. I get the feeling that this trend of flashiness is only going to get worse in this film.

T-Macksimus wrote:I hate to say it but so far "Bee, Hound and Grimlock are the only 3 thoroughly rugged vehicles on the entire set.

Grimlock?

You mean that ugly looking semi? There's no confirmation of it having an identity yet, much less of it being Grimlock.

Nice. Car looks really cool. But is it just me, or does it look really long?

Voiced by Richard Hammond, perhaps? He loves his Paganis.

YouTube user Mendenhall512 has uploaded a video of his 1965 and 1969 GTO's being loaded up on a car hauler, which he states have been rented by Paramount for use in "Transformers 4". According to the poster these will be Mark Wahlberg's character's personal vehicles. Between the vintage and modern model vehicles "Transformers 4" is going to pack a lot of muscle.