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If that is indeed Motormaster, then it would seem that the sudden influx of cars are actually a mix of Autobots and Decepticons, Stunticons to be precise, rather than fully Autobots.

Just don't screw up the combined mode, if they decide to have them combine.

That's awesome. I've traveled that stretch a few times. Pretty cool.

Awww yeah Motormaster! I was thinking that the previous comments about some of these exotic cars being Decepticons sounded logical, and I was thinking that truck couldn't be Ultra Magnus...

Plus, Bay already did Devastator, so its not unreasonable to hope for Menasor! Plus, he made the comment about pleasing fans, so maybe this is what he meant....

Metrosuplex wrote:Awww yeah Motormaster! I was thinking that the previous comments about some of these exotic cars being Decepticons sounded logical, and I was thinking that truck couldn't be Ultra Magnus...

Plus, Bay already did Devastator, so its not unreasonable to hope for Menasor! Plus, he made the comment about pleasing fans, so maybe this is what he meant....

It's worth keeping that rusted-out flatnose cab we saw awhile back, with the G1 Optimus Prime silver stripe (and flames, because Bayverse). My money's on it being Scourge/Nemesis Prime.

RAcast wrote:

Metrosuplex wrote:Awww yeah Motormaster! I was thinking that the previous comments about some of these exotic cars being Decepticons sounded logical, and I was thinking that truck couldn't be Ultra Magnus...

Plus, Bay already did Devastator, so its not unreasonable to hope for Menasor! Plus, he made the comment about pleasing fans, so maybe this is what he meant....

It's worth keeping that rusted-out flatnose cab we saw awhile back, with the G1 Optimus Prime silver stripe (and flames, because Bayverse). My money's on it being Scourge/Nemesis Prime.

BECAUSE it's Bayverse, as you stated by bringing up the flames on the silver rig, that would be a good reason to NOT lay any money down on it being Scourge/Nemesis Prime... or Motormaster for that fact. I'm betting it's none of the above and that neither of the flat-nosed rigs have anything to do with each other whatsoever. If it seems likely or plausible or remotely logical or having anything to do with previous iterations in the TF line over the last 29 years, go completely the opposite direction and that's how Bay is going to handle it.

I hope Drift is a working title and the bugetti is actually called Crosswise with David Tennant voicing him.

Well since I am only really interested in the movie line toys,I wonder if they will bring back the higher level of engineering from the RotF line?

I'm especially excited/worried about Optimus Prime as DotM Prime was utter crap.

Aladar wrote:I hope Drift is a working title and the bugetti is actually called Crosswise with David Tennant voicing him.

Well it this film was filmed in UK as well as other locales.

T-Macksimus wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Metrosuplex wrote:Awww yeah Motormaster! I was thinking that the previous comments about some of these exotic cars being Decepticons sounded logical, and I was thinking that truck couldn't be Ultra Magnus...

Plus, Bay already did Devastator, so its not unreasonable to hope for Menasor! Plus, he made the comment about pleasing fans, so maybe this is what he meant....

It's worth keeping that rusted-out flatnose cab we saw awhile back, with the G1 Optimus Prime silver stripe (and flames, because Bayverse). My money's on it being Scourge/Nemesis Prime.

BECAUSE it's Bayverse, as you stated by bringing up the flames on the silver rig, that would be a good reason to NOT lay any money down on it being Scourge/Nemesis Prime... or Motormaster for that fact. I'm betting it's none of the above and that neither of the flat-nosed rigs have anything to do with each other whatsoever. If it seems likely or plausible or remotely logical or having anything to do with previous iterations in the TF line over the last 29 years, go completely the opposite direction and that's how Bay is going to handle it.

You're probably right, but it'd be something to flat out call it as Motormaster, say MENASOR loudly, and then find out I'm right. I don't even mind how badly Bay would butcher the characters/combiner - I'd be happy to see Menasor get some love again (even if it's abusive Bay-love).

It's a crime that Menasor has not had a re-release in any way.

Metrosuplex wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Metrosuplex wrote:Awww yeah Motormaster! I was thinking that the previous comments about some of these exotic cars being Decepticons sounded logical, and I was thinking that truck couldn't be Ultra Magnus...

Plus, Bay already did Devastator, so its not unreasonable to hope for Menasor! Plus, he made the comment about pleasing fans, so maybe this is what he meant....

It's worth keeping that rusted-out flatnose cab we saw awhile back, with the G1 Optimus Prime silver stripe (and flames, because Bayverse). My money's on it being Scourge/Nemesis Prime.

BECAUSE it's Bayverse, as you stated by bringing up the flames on the silver rig, that would be a good reason to NOT lay any money down on it being Scourge/Nemesis Prime... or Motormaster for that fact. I'm betting it's none of the above and that neither of the flat-nosed rigs have anything to do with each other whatsoever. If it seems likely or plausible or remotely logical or having anything to do with previous iterations in the TF line over the last 29 years, go completely the opposite direction and that's how Bay is going to handle it.

You're probably right, but it'd be something to flat out call it as Motormaster, say MENASOR loudly, and then find out I'm right. I don't even mind how badly Bay would butcher the characters/combiner - I'd be happy to see Menasor get some love again (even if it's abusive Bay-love).

It's a crime that Menasor has not had a re-release in any way.

I said the very same thing the other day....SOOOOOOOoooo tired of Bruticus and Devestator repaints and redos... Hell, I am even weary of my beloved Airialbots... BRING ON THE STUNTICONS!!! Just makes sense with all the high end cars and now the truck. Everyone keeps complaining that high end cars make horrible disguises... Well 1) Cons don't really care about their disguises for the most part and 2) look at G1!! You had Lambo Countachs, One of a kind rally Porches, supped up Datsuns...Hardly great disguises.

In the end, who knows what Bay has in store...

I think Optimus should get a completly new body in fourth movie. After all, even when he's role in moviue changed from nerd-ic underdog of Megatron to the greatest threat to Decepticon cause. But he stil lhave body of a scientis, not w warrior. Even ifit is obvious that he is upregaded by human enginers.

i really doubt that black and silver flat nose would be scourge or nemesis prime.. i couldn't see them giving nemesis prime a smaller robot mode than the actual prime.. it just wouldn't make sense, even with bay. the whole point of making prime a long nose was to give him a larger more intimidating truck mode presence, and a larger robot mode.

Xephon0930 wrote:Well since I am only really interested in the movie line toys,I wonder if they will bring back the higher level of engineering from the RotF line?

I'm especially excited/worried about Optimus Prime as DotM Prime was utter crap.

i feel bad for you. you're missing out on some great toys. i wouldn't be able to collect strictly movie toys. that's just crazy.

i don't know how the toys are going to turn out. i believe we're going to get ALOT of rotf sideways type alt modes. very generic cars that bare a vague resemblance to what we actually see in the movies.

judging by the past movies.. i wouldn't expect to see every character in toy form starting from deluxe to leader. rotf had a few robots that we never got toys of. in dotm we didn't get a deluxe or human alliance dino. hasbro never released deluxe que, we never saw deluxe soundwave or human alliance soundwave (both of whom i really wanted) there were quite a few more robots in the movie that weren't made into toys. .. and what really pisses me off is that they made new molds for other characters that weren't in the movie, it just makes absolutely no sense to me.

and lastly, i'm most worried about the line because of what we've seen with the beast hunters deluxe figures. they're just larger versions of the cyberverse toys. hasbro seems to want to make things more simplistic for kids.

so.. imagine a movie line with bay designs (which i happen to really like) and super simplistic transformations, and a complete lack of modern articulation.. that, sadly, is what i am envisioning for this next movie line. i'm pray for that not to be the case. but hasbro wants more money, no matter the cost.

guess we'll see.

TurboMMaster wrote:I think Optimus should get a completly new body in fourth movie. After all, even when he's role in moviue changed from nerd-ic underdog of Megatron to the greatest threat to Decepticon cause. But he stil lhave body of a scientis, not w warrior. Even ifit is obvious that he is upregaded by human enginers.

i think it's time to start proof reading your posts. my mom suck at text messaging sometimes, but i can usually decipher what she's trying to say... but this.. i'm not sure what the point is that you are trying to make.

TimothyR wrote:

TurboMMaster wrote:I think Optimus should get a completly new body in fourth movie. After all, even when he's role in moviue changed from nerd-ic underdog of Megatron to the greatest threat to Decepticon cause. But he stil lhave body of a scientis, not w warrior. Even ifit is obvious that he is upregaded by human enginers.

i think it's time to start proof reading your posts. my mom suck at text messaging sometimes, but i can usually decipher what she's trying to say... but this.. i'm not sure what the point is that you are trying to make.

English is not everyone's first language. If nothing else, we are to show tolerance toward our fellow posters, if we can't muster even a small amount of respect. So, go easy. I'm not asking, I'm telling.

Now, as for what he was saying, it's this:

TurboMMaster wrote:I think Optimus should get a completely new body in the fourth movie. After all, his role in the movies changed from weakling underdog of Megatron to greatest threat to the Decepticon cause. But he still has the body of a scientist, not a warrior. Even if it is obvious that he has been upgraded by human engineers.

And TurboMMaster, I see what you're saying, but I hope it's not too drastic of a redesign. The ROTF and DOTM designs were really nice and intricate.

I have found a couple of new vehicles that have been rented off YouTube user 'Mendenhall512'.

He said the following:

Sorry to cause any confusion, the video was taken on the 1st of June and then uploaded a month later. The GTO's are to appear in the beginning Texas scenes with Mark working under the hood of the 69 one night when a satellite crashes nearby his farm causing a special Rally car of his to come to life... can't spoil too much.

I assume he is talking about 'Cliffjumper' or who ever is the Cheverolet Sonic.


Here is the video:

TimothyR wrote:i really doubt that black and silver flat nose would be scourge or nemesis prime.. i couldn't see them giving nemesis prime a smaller robot mode than the actual prime.. it just wouldn't make sense, even with bay. the whole point of making prime a long nose was to give him a larger more intimidating truck mode presence, and a larger robot mode.

Xephon0930 wrote:Well since I am only really interested in the movie line toys,I wonder if they will bring back the higher level of engineering from the RotF line?

I'm especially excited/worried about Optimus Prime as DotM Prime was utter crap.

i feel bad for you. you're missing out on some great toys. i wouldn't be able to collect strictly movie toys. that's just crazy.

i don't know how the toys are going to turn out. i believe we're going to get ALOT of rotf sideways type alt modes. very generic cars that bare a vague resemblance to what we actually see in the movies.

judging by the past movies.. i wouldn't expect to see every character in toy form starting from deluxe to leader. rotf had a few robots that we never got toys of. in dotm we didn't get a deluxe or human alliance dino. hasbro never released deluxe que, we never saw deluxe soundwave or human alliance soundwave (both of whom i really wanted) there were quite a few more robots in the movie that weren't made into toys. .. and what really pisses me off is that they made new molds for other characters that weren't in the movie, it just makes absolutely no sense to me.

and lastly, i'm most worried about the line because of what we've seen with the beast hunters deluxe figures. they're just larger versions of the cyberverse toys. hasbro seems to want to make things more simplistic for kids.

so.. imagine a movie line with bay designs (which i happen to really like) and super simplistic transformations, and a complete lack of modern articulation.. that, sadly, is what i am envisioning for this next movie line. i'm pray for that not to be the case. but hasbro wants more money, no matter the cost.

guess we'll see.[/quote"TimothyR"]

I'm sorry for the confusion but what I meant was that the movie toys are the one thing I'm looking forward to these films. I still collect the occasional Generations and Prime lines.

But the movie,I probably won't see it in theaters.

Xephon0930 wrote: and what really pisses me off is that they made new molds for other characters that weren't in the movie, it just makes absolutely no sense to me.

I understand in cases like Soundwave or Que, however in a lot of cases, the figures they design are Altmodes that did appear. Incinerator for example, the Osprey were part of the human drops. Landmine (Movie1) Stratosphere, the Legion figs are a different ballpark though

It looks as though Bumblebee will be sporting more than one Camaro alt mode in "Transformers 4" just like he did in the first live action Transformers film. Back in May Michael Bay announced that the customized vintage 1967 Camaro SS that had been seen on set was indeed Bumblebee, today the Camaro enthusiast website Camaro5.com posted new images of a customized 6th Generation Camaro on set with the other Autobot cars. More images can be found by clicking here.

While the Camaros in the first 3 Transformers movies were essentially production version Camaros with some unique aero parts added, the Transformers 4 Camaro will feature special bodywork – especially the front end. The entire front end is custom – from the futuristic looking LED headlights to the grille, to the front spoiler lip. The rear fenders feature an air vent and aggressive lower door character line and side skirts. The rear features vents on the hind quarters and a sporty diffuser, as well as a high spoiler.

And so it begins...

Wow, that looks pretty damn cool.

Mindmaster wrote:And so it begins...

Thanks dude, I needed a laugh today. I was going to post something cynical, but why bother when I can go with humour instead

de feek?

and the thot plickens...

who's the green one next to bee?

Jack Hallows wrote:who's the green one next to bee?

I believe that's the Corvette Stingray, thought to be the upgraded form of Sideswipe.

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I'm hoping im not late on this but I probably am but what ever

Michaelbay.com has revealed the Bumblebee 2014 concept Camaro



Trumpets please . . . Bumblebee, a 2014 Concept Camaro! . . . the final jewel in the Transformers 4 crown.

viruscarnage wrote:

I kinda want to take back all the crap I say about Movie Bumblebee...

...but I also don't want to, because I can almost see the endless amount of redecos and retools this could spawn.