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rpetras wrote:A giant $45+ Fast Action Battler is not for me.

While I agree RotF Prime was overcomplicated for the average kid, it speaks to the complexity of the design in the movies. That Prime was a complex beast because the transform used in the movies actually WAS that complex.

TFA was able to create stylized designs that could actually be made into toys because the show designers worked WITH the toy designers to make things that were not just possible, but were reasonable transforms for kids to perform.

The movies should do the same, and not have "thousands of moving parts" that can't be translated into figures.

MenaceRX wrote:While I don't care for the chrome, this is better then expected. First impressions looked as if the arms were not very well articulated. The biggest thing is the back parts just hanging there, If they were collapsible then it would probably we a sweet prime to have. But as it stands right now the only characters I am interest in will be the Dinobot's.

I have 2 MP Primes and ROTF Leader Blades prime. Don't need any more of them.

I think the hate toward the figure is a little overblown. There have definitely been worse transformers made, even during this 30th Anniversary release.

Deathscythetransform wrote:if they make a Generation version of this... I hope it will look better.

noctorro wrote:Very true Jones.

But to be honest, ROTF figures were out of balance as well.

We don't have to go back to level Cybertron/Galaxy Force figures.
I think the current Generations line and FOC line are a good mix between transformation complexity and overall design.

We've only seen like two primes. This being the better one, the other is also not for me.

I'm especially curious about the new faces, they look more human like in the G1 cartoon. No more bug faces I think.

Jones wrote:Nailed it. It seems like the Generations team and the AoE line are working in completely isolated silos. They hit homeruns with figures like Voyager Springer and Deluxe Orion Pax with vehicle modes that look great, robot modes with almost no kibble at all, and really fun transformations. Much like you, I will reserve my final judgement until in-hand video reviews exist, but right now I am more than skeptical that this figure in particular will turn out to be worth getting.

One thing to keep in mind is that the people designing these new movie toys are NOT the same team of people who worked on the previous movie toys. Not even the same people who worked on the pre-2014 Prime Beast Hunters toys. Aaron Archer's gone, Rik Alvarez is gone, Joe Kyde is gone, Eric Siebenaler is gone, etc. etc.

The first toys we've seen to come out of this new design team are the 2014 upscaled Cyberverse Beast Hunters toys (all the recent Generations were designed by the old team), so there's no way to say for certain that this team has the same level of capability as the old team. Hasbro might have even brought in these people because of their ability to make simpler designs.

Even though it's still the same company behind these toys as the one behind the toys of yesteryears, the inmates are no longer running the asylum.

ZackRoyer wrote:It is not RoTF that is hard to transform, it is people who ,saying politely, aren't smart enought to transform (feel free to feel offended, i don't care). I mean, come on, you have a f**king manual with step by step. You know what is worst? Not only transformers but everything is becaming dumb, look at star wars action figures, even knee and elbow joint they don't have anymore. I think we should not make dumb products because people are getting dumb. We should make people smarter, so we have smarter products and so.
Whats next? a One-colored rubik? One-buttom Simon?

MenaceRX wrote:I think the hate toward the figure is a little overblown. There have definitely been worse transformers made, even during this 30th Anniversary release.

ZackRoyer wrote:It is not RoTF that is hard to transform, it is people who ,saying politely, aren't smart enought to transform (feel free to feel offended, i don't care). I mean, come on, you have a f**king manual with step by step.

ZackRoyer wrote:It is not RoTF that is hard to transform, it is people who ,saying politely, aren't smart enought to transform (feel free to feel offended, i don't care). I mean, come on, you have a f**king manual with step by step. You know what is worst? Not only transformers but everything is becaming dumb, look at star wars action figures, even knee and elbow joint they don't have anymore. I think we should not make dumb products because people are getting dumb. We should make people smarter, so we have smarter products and so.
Whats next? a One-colored rubik? One-buttom Simon?

You guys likin' on this are funny. I can't wait to get mine next week!

I second that, don't know where all the hate is coming from.

You want more G1 likeness, go buy Masterpiece or Generations.

I don't care how much Collectors don't like the fact that Hasbro are...

Why can't we expect the same balance of quality, accurate appearances, and transformation fun from movie figures that we've been getting from other lines? It need not be one-or-the-other.

PrymeStriker wrote:

ZackRoyer wrote:It is not RoTF that is hard to transform, it is people who ,saying politely, aren't smart enought to transform (feel free to feel offended, i don't care). I mean, come on, you have a f**king manual with step by step.

Excuse me if I'd prefer to be able to convert my figure back and forth without needing to roll out a mile long manual to get it from point A to point B.

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