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News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:11 am

This is just a really big Fast Action Battler.

And thus, not for me.

News Credits: 5 · by **5150 Cruiser** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:00 am

Actar wrote:Honestly, out of sheer curiosity, I would really, really love to know if ROTF Prime didn't sell well or if Hasbro got tons of complaints from parents.

Or is it the economy? Different designers? Please, tell me how a company capable of producing wonders of engineering like ROTF Prime, FE Prime Bulkhead, etc... can fall this low.

Again, I have to preface my comment with a disclaimer. For kids, it's perfectly fine, yada yada yada.

But personally, what I look for in a transforming toy is to be wowed by the engineering and marvel at it's accuracy to the show (looks AND transformation wise). The less 'cheating' the better and this is just disappointing.

I believe there was a story where a bunch of ROTF Leader class primes were returned with the sole reason being the transformations were to difficult for younger kids. Logic says to me..
"Then don't by such a complicated figure and get a Voyager class. why should the rest of us have to suffer?"
But after thinking about it that's not entirely fair. I think kids have just as much a right to enjoy these toys as we do. And like you said (and this is something everyone needs to remember). Kids are the target audience. They are the next generation of collectors.
I don't like this figure at all. I won't go into detail as everyone else has pretty much said it already. However, if this is a response to an over whelm of complaints of figures like ROTF Prime being to difficult to transform, then I understand Hasbro's reasoning.

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:01 am

Now this... just looks complete ass. It's basically a damn shell-former with minimal articulation. What the hell happened, Hasbro? What happened? It's like they sacrificed everything good... for chrome.

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:04 am

I don't know what the hell people's problem is. This figure looks like in kick-ass on ten planets. Looks incredibly poseable with all those joints I can see, though it seems the guy with the picture didn't bother to move him.

Unless the shoulders can't move outward, then I may retract my opinion. Reviewers, we need you.

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:12 am

That's a lot of chrome and kibble...

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:18 am

I don't know why people are freaking out. It's obviously mistransformed. Let's wait until we see proper pictures before we write it off.

by **guarayakha** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:20 am

The first thing that comes into my mind when i saw that:

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:20 am

PrymeStriker wrote:I don't know what the hell people's problem is. This figure looks like in kick-ass on ten planets. Looks incredibly poseable with all those joints I can see, though it seems the guy with the picture didn't bother to move him.

Unless the shoulders can't move outward, then I may retract my opinion. Reviewers, we need you.

My problem is that he looks too stiff. And all the vehicle parts just lie on his back. I really want to like it, and I definitely will buy it, but right now, I'm not too impressed.

News Credits: 1 · by **YRQRM0** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:22 am

The chrome is quite nice. I feel like it can look better in robot mode, but only by so much (as far as the mistransformation goes). Hopefully there are some better Primes in the line.

News Credits: 1 · by **njb902** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:23 am

The more of this I see the more the back kibble bothers me. I will wait though and see, I'm just prepared to be a firm no.

Like Toralei_De_Nile on Facebook · by **Toralei_De_Nile** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:23 am

So glad I don't buy movie toys, or else I would be pissed. This thing looks like those crappy toys r us non-transforming, ridiculously tall, and flat optimus primes, but they gave it pant legs so it could transform.

by **Muscle Man** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:41 am

This looks like it has all the articulation of a Barbie doll.
Difficulty level: Toddler

Thumbs down, bro's

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:30 pm

well, we knew from the first film that bots could pee, now this proves that they can take a dump too.

News Credits: 1 · by **njb902** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:37 pm

craggy wrote:well, we knew from the first film that bots could pee, now this proves that they can take a dump too.

We knew that in ROTF :lol:

News Credits: 1 · by **njb902** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:38 pm

Lots of double posting today.

News Credits: 4 · by **Swiftknife24** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:10 pm

First thoughts; robot mode looks a bit...Garish! Truck mode looks okay, but the truck looked like a toy to begin with...! Second thoughts; chrome grill but no chrome smoke stacks...? I know sticky-outy things need to be ABS when possible, but...!

Not too excited about this film's toy line, to be fair (still want more Fall of Cybertron figures...! XD). I think I'll just see about the Dinobots this time 'round. ^^

Hence, I'm awaiting Leader Grimlock! (I think this is tactical; they may not be going to show him until after the rumoured Super Bowl trailer appearence...!)

AM

by **Skyscythe427** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:20 pm

I had ROTF Leader Class Prime until about 6 months ago and I LOVED that figure (other than the missing faceplate)but this....... It's beyond hideous! The robot mode is one of the worst I have EVER seen. I'm now extremely nervous about how Grimlock is going to look. I was hoping there would have been more than one dinobot figure for FOC but that dream died, so I had new hope for AOE dinobots to really shine. Not giving up yet, but if simple is the new look for generations I might be done collecting new figures.... Looks like the only ones who get it lately are the 3rd party toy companies who are making quality representations of fan favs, like Scoria. Sell your Hasbro stock before June.

Like KapikoArt on Facebook · by **KapikoArt** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:05 pm

Seriously?! This is the lamest Leader class ever !!!

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:23 pm

Man the first leader class movie prime was much better than this. He is just so...stiff. The chrome actually makes him looks cheap.

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:37 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:I don't know what the hell people's problem is. This figure looks like in kick-ass on ten planets. Looks incredibly poseable with all those joints I can see, though it seems the guy with the picture didn't bother to move him.

Unless the shoulders can't move outward, then I may retract my opinion. Reviewers, we need you.

My problem is that he looks too stiff.

That's what I'm saying. From all looks of it, this Optimus looks like he can move in all kinds of directions. I even look at it now and find that one shoulder is slightly moved outward in comparison to the other.

The guy handling him likely put Optimus in a stiff position while he may have the ability to move freely.

That's why I'm waiting for reviews to check out the articulation.

As for the whole kibble-on-his-back thing everyone's talking about, give me a break. :roll:

by **Ultra Markus** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:13 pm

[img]i thought of this when i saw it

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:16 pm

Ultra Markus wrote:[img]i thought of this when i saw it

Ugh, make them go away... I got it and its partner, the Scariest Bumblebee Ever Made, haunting the shelves at all my local retailers except Target (I bet they were smart enough not to carry them)

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:37 pm

This makes me feel better about giving up on the movie line and selling off my movie collection. The downscaled figures and premature cancelation of the DotM line was bad enough. Now it looks like AoE will be a disaster for fans. If kids love it, fine, but I hope Hasbro will continue to keep collectors' tastes in mind for the Generations line.

by **autobot1979** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:38 pm

I will probably buy this one as well, even thinking that the last Leader class is way better than that.
The design is alright, but got difficult for the engineers, make a descent toy. The chrome one it looks amazing, and the head sculpt too. The vehicle mode is really cool, but it sucks the kibble behind the robot mode. But anyway, like I said , I will probably end up buying it. >:oP

News Credits: 1 · by **T-Macksimus** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:18 pm

You know what this is? This is 10 minutes before "Last Call" and you look at your only prospect at the end of the bar, you look to your wing-man, he looks at you and says "Dude, you're on your own... and may god have mercy on your poor, sorry soul!" and laughs as he walks out of the bar.

I wouldn't add this to my Prime collection using my worst enemies wallet. :SICK: