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About the hair on the robots faces, I don`t complain because in G1 we had Wreck-Gar with mustache and Alphatryon with beard and mustache, So why complaining about Bay`s robots hairs?

And about the complexity of the toys , I particularly love complex toys for how difficult to transfo4m more interesting so then, if AOE be an ease collection, I wont be expending my money on it.

There's a big difference between painted on stache's and actual grown robot metal hairs.
It's absurd. Just like making lead foot fat. It's just a way of using Stereotyping that's not needed
If someone actually wrote a good story.

But neither Scourge nor Wreck-Gar nor any of the other G1 bots with facial hair had theirs merely painted on, their beards and 'staches were separate metal plates. Alpha Trion's even grew longer and whiter with age.

In 1984, Alpha Trion's and Wreck Gar's hair were three pieces and sort of complimented them. Those were cartoons for kids, not a multi-billion movie series. It was still silly to have hair on them back then. This does not translate well onto these movie figures, it is plain ridiculous. One more way to poke fun at them and make them look hidious from this team.

Interesting... Paulie's beast mode, he looks like he has the same leg structure going on as BH Windrazor. Or is it me?

These look like Deluxe size to me, based on the thickness and size of the parts.

These are either the new Deluxe Class or the return of the FABs: The Fast Action Battlers.

They kinda look OK, both "Hound" and "Strafe" look like they could be decent figures if given better treatment.

Sabrblade wrote:Strafe makes sense in a way since G1 Strafe was a twin-headed jet and this is essentially the dinobot equivalent of such.

Which is just dumb, why bother making five Dinobots, and then replacing the flying one with a two-headed dragon thing as a homage to a jet based character?
What, is a one headed Pterosaur too unbelievable for audiences to accept?

Dead Metal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Strafe makes sense in a way since G1 Strafe was a twin-headed jet and this is essentially the dinobot equivalent of such.

Which is just dumb, why bother making five Dinobots, and then replacing the flying one with a two-headed dragon thing as a homage to a jet based character?
What, is a one headed Pterosaur too unbelievable for audiences to accept?

I think we're getting much more than five Dinobots this time around.

Based on the previous toy listings, it sounds to me like the Dinobots will consist this time of Grimlock, Slug, Slash, Scorn, Strafe, Snarl, Swoop, and perhaps even more.

I'm willing to bet that these are the replacement for FAB. The transformations look as if they could be almost automated (pop outification). Hound seems to have his sides flip outwards, which gives the inside out look. Bee has the weird feet fascia thing going on. Not sure about Strafe, doesn't seem too "springy" to me, but I still reckon that's what these are.

However the fact that these are named "Power Attackers" implies that they are something other than Deluxe or Cyberverse.

I believe that the "Power Attackers" are going to be the new Cyberverse. These toys look too simple for Deluxe models and even FAB. Bumblebee looks like all his other legends/legion class incarnations; Hound looks to have the similar build too Commander class Sentinel Prime, and Strafe reminds me of the recent Predacon Windrazor legion class only maybe bigger, possibly Commander Class.

Grizzly Adams Syndrome...GAWD


Well that sucks. This confirms that Hound will have that stupid Grizzly Adams beard and a Cigar in the movie. I think it will be a little silly but knew it was coming from the pic posted ages ago of plausible Hound's head on a stick during production. I thought we would have learned from Sentinel and Leadfoot.
Alas...Bayverse knows all...rules all...takes responsibility for nothing.

~reluctantyouth~

...for what should he take responsibility, precisely?

reluctantyouth wrote:This confirms that Hound will have that stupid Grizzly Adams beard and a Cigar in the movie. I think it will be a little silly but knew it was coming from the pic posted ages ago of plausible Hound's head on a stick during production.

a. I don't see how this blurry pic confirms anything.
b. I don't see how robots with beards and cigars are any sillier than talking alien robots that transform into cars and planes. Should we go back to 1984 and list all the ridiculous things that have appeared in TF cartoons and comics? I think beards and cigars will be minor in comparison. We can start here:



Should we talk about the time the TFs were toys in the bedroom of a giant alien child? Or the time Powerglide rode a carousel? Or the time Hoist went to Hollywood to become a movie actor? When has Transformers NOT had silly stuff in it?

Bumblevivisector wrote:To me it doesn't look like facial hair as much as how early Pretenders' chest armor would come up and obscure part of their face. Landmine would've been a more appropriate fake name for this guy than Duke.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to make the connection between his look and that of the Pretender figures. It was the first thing to come to mind.
Regardless of size and complexity I'm tempted to get the figure based off of these early pics but I may still have to see one in hand before making the final decision. I have a sub-collection going of assault style/military TF figures and while this one may be quite simplified compared to the rest of the figures I have, he may still fit in well with the display I have going.
So far, Hound (and the 67 Camaro 'Bee) is the only thing remotely intriguing to me about the new movie but I'm still waiting to see if they come up with figures for the black off-road/rally cars that we saw early on in the behind the scenes photos. If they come out with those and they are done decently then I'll jump on them too.

reluctantyouth wrote:Grizzly Adams Syndrome...GAWD


Well that sucks. This confirms that Hound will have that stupid Grizzly Adams beard and a Cigar in the movie. I think it will be a little silly but knew it was coming from the pic posted ages ago of plausible Hound's head on a stick during production. I thought we would have learned from Sentinel and Leadfoot.
Alas...Bayverse knows all...rules all...takes responsibility for nothing.

~reluctantyouth~

What was there to learn from Sentinel and Leadfoot? Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.

SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.

What? No they don't.

Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.




Compared to Jetfire's, Sentinel's, and Leadfoot's more obvious beards:





Which are awesome, btw.

Sabrblade wrote:

Just now realized Sentinel's beard is braided.

Personally, I find it far stranger that robots that don't need to breathe (they go into space and the bottom of the ocean and all) give the occasional gasp or visible breath or some other hint that they're breathing.

Noideaforaname wrote:Personally, I find it far stranger that robots that don't need to breathe (they go into space and the bottom of the ocean and all) give the occasional gasp or visible breath or some other hint that they're breathing.

On that note, G1 Galvatron even tried to choke Hot Rod back in the G1 movie.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.

What? No they don't.

Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.

I still consider them beards.

Noideaforaname wrote:Personally, I find it far stranger that robots that don't need to breathe (they go into space and the bottom of the ocean and all) give the occasional gasp or visible breath or some other hint that they're breathing.

Who says they don't need to breathe? Maybe they just switch on their... oxygen, or whatever they breathe tanks, when they're in an environment where they can't breathe?

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.

What? No they don't.

Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.

I still consider them beards.

By that logic, half the cast of Animated are bearded.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.

What? No they don't.

Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.

I still consider them beards.

By that logic, half the cast of Animated are bearded.

That's exactly what I think of when I see people complaining about TFs with beards; Animated.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.

What? No they don't.

Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.

I still consider them beards.

By that logic, half the cast of Animated are bearded.

That's exactly what I think of when I see people complaining about TFs with beards; Animated.

Big chin =/= beard, dude.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.

What? No they don't.

Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.

I still consider them beards.

By that logic, half the cast of Animated are bearded.

That's exactly what I think of when I see people complaining about TFs with beards; Animated.

Big chin =/= beard, dude.

What about the points on the end? I wouldn't say Ratchet or Bumblebee had beards. Bulkhead, either.

SlyTF1 wrote:What about the points on the end? I wouldn't say Ratchet or Bumblebee had beards. Bulkhead, either.

This article is your friend - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Facial_hair

RhA wrote:...for what should he take responsibility, precisely?

How about CONSTANTLY making Transformers look like jokes? I don't care how much money this series makes, there is absolutely no reason for leg humping, gold teeth slang talking, testicals, canes, and or facial hair.

In 1984, Alpha Trion's and Wreck Gar's hair were three pieces and sort of complimented them. Those were cartoons for kids, not a multi-billion movie series. It was still silly to have hair on them back then. This does not translate well onto these movie figures, it is plain ridiculous. One more way to poke fun at them and make them look hideous from this team.