Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:IDW Chromedome is not a Headmaster.
Headmasters in the IDW continuity are considered ghoulish, barbaric abominations not unlike what Silas did to Breakdown's corpse in Transformers: Prime.
It's a neighboring universe that's heavily influenced by IDW G1, which also explains Chromedome's body.MINDVVIPE wrote:Sabrblade wrote:IDW Chromedome is not a Headmaster.
Headmasters in the IDW continuity are considered ghoulish, barbaric abominations not unlike what Silas did to Breakdown's corpse in Transformers: Prime.
I know that, but then we have a stylor, why is that?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:It's a neighboring universe that's heavily influenced by IDW G1, which also explains Chromedome's body.MINDVVIPE wrote:Sabrblade wrote:IDW Chromedome is not a Headmaster.
Headmasters in the IDW continuity are considered ghoulish, barbaric abominations not unlike what Silas did to Breakdown's corpse in Transformers: Prime.
I know that, but then we have a stylor, why is that?
And, my post was not aimed at you.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote::???:
...IDW is G1. A G1, at least.
Sabrblade wrote:IDW Chromedome is not a Headmaster.
Headmasters in the IDW continuity are considered ghoulish, barbaric abominations not unlike what Silas did to Breakdown's corpse in Transformers: Prime.
LOL, yeah, but what I was trying to get at was the world that this Chromedome comes from is meant to be a slightly alternate version of IDW G1, in which Chromedome has this body (but still has his IDW head) and Stylor as an ally.MINDVVIPE wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
...IDW is G1. A G1, at least.
Well, again, there isn't any Stylor in the IDW comics. Stylor, until being introduced into this comics continuity (if ever), is from the original G1. That is enough to start talking about headmasters and the desire to have a headmaster Chromedome that is updated and from Hasbro. Its really hair splitting and doesn't matter at all, but I am bored so why not.
It's a lot closer to IDW Chromedome than Code will ever be, at least.Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:IDW Chromedome is not a Headmaster.
Headmasters in the IDW continuity are considered ghoulish, barbaric abominations not unlike what Silas did to Breakdown's corpse in Transformers: Prime.
This is as much IDW Chromedome as the Jazz mold is IDW Nightbeat. All you really have is TF Prime Wheeljack painted in Chromedome colors with an IDW Chromedome head. A stand in at best. Thats why I referred to him as "not" Chromedome. Im not the only one here who thinks this figure is not much of a Chromedome. And at the Same price Code was if you went the BBTS route, this is no bargin.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:LOL, yeah, but what I was trying to get at was the world that this Chromedome comes from is meant to be a slightly alternate version of IDW G1, in which Chromedome has this body (but still has his IDW head) and Stylor as an ally.MINDVVIPE wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
...IDW is G1. A G1, at least.
Well, again, there isn't any Stylor in the IDW comics. Stylor, until being introduced into this comics continuity (if ever), is from the original G1. That is enough to start talking about headmasters and the desire to have a headmaster Chromedome that is updated and from Hasbro. Its really hair splitting and doesn't matter at all, but I am bored so why not.
Kinda like how the Wings Universe is a slightly alternate version of the G1 cartoon universe, only with some characters having bodies that differ from their cartoon bodies.
The Club simply wanted to throw Stylor in there but without intruding upon the IDW portrayal of the character as a non-Headmaster, and so worked him in in a way gives us him without remaking the non-HM character into a Headmaster.It's a lot closer to IDW Chromedome than Code will ever be, at least.Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:IDW Chromedome is not a Headmaster.
Headmasters in the IDW continuity are considered ghoulish, barbaric abominations not unlike what Silas did to Breakdown's corpse in Transformers: Prime.
This is as much IDW Chromedome as the Jazz mold is IDW Nightbeat. All you really have is TF Prime Wheeljack painted in Chromedome colors with an IDW Chromedome head. A stand in at best. Thats why I referred to him as "not" Chromedome. Im not the only one here who thinks this figure is not much of a Chromedome. And at the Same price Code was if you went the BBTS route, this is no bargin.
And, it's quite possible that Nightbeat'll upgrade into a new body to match his new toy. Bumblebee and Starscream have both done so thus far.
Sabrblade wrote:LOL, yeah, but what I was trying to get at was the world that this Chromedome comes from is meant to be a slightly alternate version of IDW G1, in which Chromedome has this body (but still has his IDW head) and Stylor as an ally.MINDVVIPE wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
...IDW is G1. A G1, at least.
Well, again, there isn't any Stylor in the IDW comics. Stylor, until being introduced into this comics continuity (if ever), is from the original G1. That is enough to start talking about headmasters and the desire to have a headmaster Chromedome that is updated and from Hasbro. Its really hair splitting and doesn't matter at all, but I am bored so why not.
Kinda like how the Wings Universe is a slightly alternate version of the G1 cartoon universe, only with some characters having bodies that differ from their cartoon bodies.
The Club simply wanted to throw Stylor in there but without intruding upon the IDW portrayal of the character as a non-Headmaster, and so worked him in in a way gives us him without remaking the non-HM character into a Headmaster.It's a lot closer to IDW Chromedome than Code will ever be, at least.Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:IDW Chromedome is not a Headmaster.
Headmasters in the IDW continuity are considered ghoulish, barbaric abominations not unlike what Silas did to Breakdown's corpse in Transformers: Prime.
This is as much IDW Chromedome as the Jazz mold is IDW Nightbeat. All you really have is TF Prime Wheeljack painted in Chromedome colors with an IDW Chromedome head. A stand in at best. Thats why I referred to him as "not" Chromedome. Im not the only one here who thinks this figure is not much of a Chromedome. And at the Same price Code was if you went the BBTS route, this is no bargin.
And, it's quite possible that Nightbeat'll upgrade into a new body to match his new toy. Bumblebee and Starscream have both done so thus far.
IDW G1 Chromedome is more popular now than any Chromedome has ever been. People WANT IDW G1 Chromedome, but since Hasbro won't give it to them, the Club's doing this as the closest possible thing to it that they can give.Rated X wrote:I would have to question whether TFCC is only saying "IDW" to escape the fans calling for an actual headmaster.
Who would? That's meant to be TF: Prime Barricade (they just couldn't give him a new head):Rated X wrote:It makes a great alabai saying he is "IDW". I wouldnt exactly call TFCC Barricade an IDW character either. (whether it is supposed to be TF Prime Barricade or classics Barricade using a TF Prime mold)
IDW G1 IS G1, dude. There is more than one G1 out there.Rated X wrote:The same thing with the action master homage using the Warpath mold and Catgut. That's G1, not IDW.
IDW G1 Nightbeat isn't a Headmaster either.Rated X wrote:With all that being said, it would be really sad if Hasbro changes Nightbeat's fiction to coinside with a lazy repaint. I can live with a Hasbro/TFCC Nightbeat that isnt a headmaster, but not with a Nightbeat who has the front end of a car for his chest. It's like GDO Wheelie. Sometimes it's hard to take lazy repaints/retools seriously just beccause their official.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
For a second, I thought you were making a rainbow-colored Haiku.gavinfuzzy wrote:Such continuity
Many confuse
Much characters
So toy
Very wow
Too expense
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:IDW G1 Chromedome is more popular now than any Chromedome has ever been. People WANT IDW G1 Chromedome, but since Hasbro won't give it to them, the Club's doing this as the closest possible thing to it that they can give.Rated X wrote:I would have to question whether TFCC is only saying "IDW" to escape the fans calling for an actual headmaster.Who would? That's meant to be TF: Prime Barricade (they just couldn't give him a new head):Rated X wrote:It makes a great alabai saying he is "IDW". I wouldnt exactly call TFCC Barricade an IDW character either. (whether it is supposed to be TF Prime Barricade or classics Barricade using a TF Prime mold)IDW G1 IS G1, dude. There is more than one G1 out there.Rated X wrote:The same thing with the action master homage using the Warpath mold and Catgut. That's G1, not IDW.IDW G1 Nightbeat isn't a Headmaster either.Rated X wrote:With all that being said, it would be really sad if Hasbro changes Nightbeat's fiction to coinside with a lazy repaint. I can live with a Hasbro/TFCC Nightbeat that isnt a headmaster, but not with a Nightbeat who has the front end of a car for his chest. It's like GDO Wheelie. Sometimes it's hard to take lazy repaints/retools seriously just beccause their official.
None of the characters who were Headmasters, Targetmasters, Powermasters, Action Masters, etc. in the 1980s are any of those things in the IDW G1 comics. Well, except one: Scorponok, who hasn't been seen since Ultra Magnus arrested him in "Maximum Dinobots", and his Headmaster partner, Machination leader Abraham Dante, has also been MIA (Lord Zarak died before he could undergo the Headmaster process).
The only other character who underwent any kind of "-Master" process was Sunstreaker, who had Hunter become his Headmaster. But ever since "All Hail Megatron", Sunstreaker was made back into being an ordinary non-Headmaster TF again, and Hunter was killed off by comic writer Shane McCarthy Sideswipe.
In this present day and age, you would be hard-pressed to find a Chromedome fan who prefers a version of him that isn't the IDW G1 version over all other versions.Rated X wrote:Im not doubting youre knowledge on IDW. I openly admit im not into comics since im not an avid reader. I try, but its very hard to get into. But to say IDW Chromedome is more popular than G1 Chromedome is an opinion.
And that toy sold out so quickly all thanks to IDW making G1 Chromedome popular again.Rated X wrote:There is a reason FP Code sold out almost everywhere. Unless you conduct a survey, you really cant speak for the fandom.
Yes there is. The Club made this comic that puts him in the Aligned Continuity, of which TF: Prime is a part of. We see Barricade along with FOC Ironfist and Barricade's Arms Micron Frenzy on Page 2 and Page 3.Rated X wrote:On barricade, theres no real proof that it was meant to be TF Prime barricade.
Of course not. Those new Transmutate and Rampage figures represent alternate universe versions of the Beast Wars versions, who hail from a universe that has yet to be named but will finally be explored in this year's magazine comic story.Rated X wrote:We do know TFCC is incorporating TF Prime molds into the classics line. Or do you consider their upcoming Exclusive "TF Prime Transmutate" ? Is the membership figure meant to be "TF Prime" Rampage ?
Well, that opinion is a misnomer since the Club has already specified which characters these toys are and what continuities/universes they come from. They made the toys/characters, so they have final say.Rated X wrote:My personal opinion is they made them to be classics. And just like barricade neither of those have new head sculpts and feature a TF Prime head
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Some coding issues there. Hard to pick out which are you words and which are mine.
Sabrblade wrote:Some coding issues there. Hard to pick out which are you words and which are mine.
For Chromedome, this is a parallel universe version of the IDW version of the character. It's the same guy, but with a different body.Rated X wrote:Also as I stated before, having a Nightbeat with the hood of a car for his chest (Jazz mold) is just plain wrong. These are not true "IDW" versions of the characters.
Well, for Chromedome, they had no choice but use an existing mold. The Club has no access to new molds that don't exist yet, and the fact that they even made this toy at all means that Hasbro has no plans for a new Chromedome figure any time soon.Rated X wrote:they're lazy repaints made from existing molds.
Despite the Club's reputational habit of making toys that represent specific versions of characters instead of just generalized versions like the Classics line was?Rated X wrote:You can use them on IDW or TF Prime shelves, but at the end of the day the subscription service is TFCC's version of the classic line.
The Club has canonized IDW as a G1 continuity. There is more than one G1 continuity. That is official, not opinion.Rated X wrote:I wouldn't consider IDW to be G1. I would consider it to be a separate continuity that uses modified G1 characters. Just my opinion.
It's from the Transformers: Prime MMO game Transformers Universe, in which we also saw Prowl's artwork years before he would ever get a toy.Rated X wrote:Im not sure where you got that artwork of a "TF Prime" Barricade. Im assuming it is concept art similar to some of the animated artwork we have seen in the past. But Barricade was never in the TF Prime cartoon. I wouldn't know if TF Prime had a comic, Im assuming it didn't...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:For Chromedome, this is a parallel universe version of the IDW version of the character. It's the same guy, but with a different body.Rated X wrote:Also as I stated before, having a Nightbeat with the hood of a car for his chest (Jazz mold) is just plain wrong. These are not true "IDW" versions of the characters.
For Nightbeat, we'll just have to wait and see what Hasbro and IDW do if they decide to upgrade the character into a new body to reflect the Generations toy.Well, for Chromedome, they had no choice but use an existing mold. The Club has no access to new molds that don't exist yet, and the fact that they even made this toy at all means that Hasbro has no plans for a new Chromedome figure any time soon.Rated X wrote:they're lazy repaints made from existing molds.
So the options were "use an existing mold" or "don't make Chromedome at all".Despite the Club's reputational habit of making toys that represent specific versions of characters instead of just generalized versions like the Classics line was?Rated X wrote:You can use them on IDW or TF Prime shelves, but at the end of the day the subscription service is TFCC's version of the classic line.
It is evident that you don't understand the Club's mindset (not saying that I do fully, but I at least get the gist of how they think).The Club has canonized IDW as a G1 continuity. There is more than one G1 continuity. That is official, not opinion.Rated X wrote:I wouldn't consider IDW to be G1. I would consider it to be a separate continuity that uses modified G1 characters. Just my opinion.It's from the Transformers: Prime MMO game Transformers Universe, in which we also saw Prowl's artwork years before he would ever get a toy.Rated X wrote:Im not sure where you got that artwork of a "TF Prime" Barricade. Im assuming it is concept art similar to some of the animated artwork we have seen in the past. But Barricade was never in the TF Prime cartoon. I wouldn't know if TF Prime had a comic, Im assuming it didn't...
It's not that they redecoed a Prime mold into another character. It's that they redecoed a mold into being a specific character. They weren't trying to create a generic, unspecified version of Barricade, but specifically Prime Barricade.Rated X wrote:I got an interesting thought…
If repainting TF Prime Prowl creates “TF Prime Barricade”, wouldn’t repainting TF Prime Wheeljack create “TF Prime Chromedome” ?
Yes they did. They did so via this comic and via conversations on places like Twitter and forums like Allspark.com. And the toy's bios will undoubtedly reflect this, just as the first year's Subscription Service toy bios and comics all pegged those toys as specific characters too.Rated X wrote:I’m not sure if anyone really knows what the club intended because they didn’t advertise what continuity the figures are supposed to be from.
Dion, Side Burn, Punch, and Runamuck are all Wings Universe character toys.Rated X wrote:Funpub doesn’t acknowledge the existence of 3rd party figures (Code) so my guess they see this release as the first update Chromedome has ever gottn. They probably gave it G1 colors and an IDW head so it has the best of both worlds. (like Generations Blurr) The club has always been about using existing molds to make “classics” versions of obscure characters. (Dion, Sideburn, Punch, Runamuck, etc) And that’s not even looking at the Botcon figures which are virtually all classics themed with the exception of SG and Animated sets.
"MMO" is short for "Massively Multiplayer Online Game". Though, thinking more about, I guess the more correct term for wht this game is exactly would be "MOBA", "Multiplayer online battle arena"Rated X wrote:I don’t know what MMO means. Is that a video game or some online role playing game ?
That's because that Prowl artwork predates the Prowl toys by several years. Instead of creating new toy mold to better match that Prowl artwork, Hasbro went the cheaper route of just reusing the Smokescreen mold, but with a new lightbar and a head based on that art.Rated X wrote:But the picture you posted of Prowl doesn’t really look like the Prowl mold in my opinion. It might be loosely based on the artwork, but definitely not accurate in the same way the WFC/FOC figures were to their respective artwork.
See, this is the problem. You're thinking of "G1" as referring to just one thing: The Sunbow cartoon.Rated X wrote:I would leave the opinion of IDW truly being G1 open to interpretation. If I get a job with Hasbro tomorrow and design my own take on classics characters, does that make them G1? The point I’m getting at is that just because its official doesn’t make it G1. At best, the IDW continuity is a reboot of the original G1 continuity. I would consider it G1 if they kept the characters original aesthetics and picked up where the Rebirth left off. But creating their own fiction and aesthetics makes IDW a G1 reboot. An official reboot, but still a reboot. Once again, this is my opinion. Those who are more loyal to today’s Hasbro than I am might feel differently.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote::???:
...IDW is G1. A G1, at least.
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