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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:55 amby El Duque
The Academy Awards have ended and
Transformers Dark of the Moon has come up empty handed. The film was nominated in three categories:
Visual Effects,
Sound Editing, and
Sound Mixing. Unfortunately for us the Martin Scorsese directed
Hugo also received nominations in those three categories and managed to sweep all three. Guess we'll have to settle for "It's an honor just to be nominated" and hope for better luck next time. We do have another Transformers film to look forward to in 2014 after all!
Film School Reject's Robert Fure by way of
Michael Bay's official website:
Achievement in Sound Editing
Hugo wins here, which is stupid. Drive was nominated because it was loud and realistic, but I don’t think that overcomes Transformers: Dark of the Moon, which created an amazing and realistic immersive experience that was well thought out. Say what you will about the movie or Bay, but the film is cutting edge and sounded amazing.
Achievement in Sound Mixing
Again, Hugo doesn’t hold a candle to Transformers. The action film is ignored because it’s perceived as being big, loud, and stupid, when it is actually big, loud, and technically crafted amazingly in several departments. Hate the film, you can’t ignore the layers of sound work here.
Achievement in Visual Effects + This is What’s Wrong with the Oscars Part 2
The childish Hugo again wins, inexplicably. I don’t think Deathly Hallows had the consistency in its effects work to win here. Many were cheering Rise of the Planet of the Apes, but I don’t think that wins here either – what was the achievement? More facial mocap? Big whoop. The technology being utilized here is Lord of the Rings stuff plus the hair texturing of King Kong. It’s not groundbreaking. I liked Real Steel, which had some pretty great effects, but the king of the pile here is Transformers: Dark of the Moon.
This is again what’s wrong with the Oscar’s. They don’t want to give Transformers an Academy Award, despite the fact that it is utterly amazing visually. Michael Bay has a bad reputation in some professional circles and a lot of people consider him to be a bad director – so what? This isn’t about good people and this category actually isn’t about “good” movies. Transformers is at least competent in every department, but when it comes to visual effects, this film is retardedly amazing. The robots move more realistically than the apes in Rise, and they seamlessly interact with the physical environment. The effects are blended perfectly.
Further, the film breaks ground in processing power and what’s possible on the screen. Each of the Transformers is made up of hundreds, if not tens of thousands, of pieces that are animated. There was a time when just putting one of those guys on screen was impossible, yet now a battle can rage with dozens of Transformers fighting dozens of flying vehicles while buildings collapse in the background. This just isn’t about the robots, it’s about the entire digital landscape collapsing around them. Dark of the Moon was **** robbed.
Visual Effects- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2
- Hugo - Winner
- Real Steel
- Rise of the Planet of the Apes
- Transformers: Dark of the Moon
Sound Editing- Drive
- The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
- Hugo - Winner
- Transformers: Dark of the Moon
- War Horse
Sound Mixing- The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
- Hugo - Winner
- Moneyball
- Transformers: Dark of the Moon
- War Horse
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:11 amby MINDVVIPE
HAH, all that work and it loses to a movie thats much more story driven.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:28 amby Evil_the_Nub
Treetop Maximus wrote:>not winning Visual Effects
Oscars confirmed for bullshit.
Agreed, the whole thing is a joke. I'm surprised anyone takes it seriously when they make decisions like that.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:49 amby MINDVVIPE
How come the oscars are bullshit? They probably saw all the special effects and were like, woo... crazy i guess... well, from what I actually made out from all the craziness... And then they forget about it, coz it leaves no lasting impression.
Its not just about how crazy the visuals are, its about how effectively they are applied. I don't really care about the oscars, but if thats how they were rating special effects, I completely agree.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:24 amby RhA
MINDVVIPE wrote:How come the oscars are bullshit? They probably saw all the special effects and were like, woo... crazy i guess... well, from what I actually made out from all the craziness... And then they forget about it, coz it leaves no lasting impression.
Its not just about how crazy the visuals are, its about how effectively they are applied. I don't really care about the oscars, but if thats how they were rating special effects, I completely agree.
The oscars are bullshit because it's a circle jerk.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:11 amby Megatron Wolf
just because a movie has alot of effects doesnt mean it should win anything, especially when the cg isnt even that great. They CGI in DOTM wasnt bad but it wasnt great either. when you see cg in the movie you know its cg cause it looks like cg, great cg should look like its a real life prop on the set not like it was added in later. It would be one thing if they did something nwe bit they didnt, the effects looked the same as the first movie. Out of all the movies there either planet of the apes or harry potter should've won, not a fan of either movie but the effects were awesome. but as we all know its the oscars so the things that should win never do.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:22 amby Autobot032
-_- true talent ignored again.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:42 amby Starscream GaGa
And so the onslaught of fan boys begins...
"Oscars are bullshit WAH!"
"Oscars are fixed WAH!"
"Nobody cares about Oscars anyway WAH!"
Sorry guys, Hugo was extremely well received. DOTM was not. Everyone knew it had no chance of winning.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:55 amby combiner711
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:23 amby RhA
Starscream GaGa wrote:And so the onslaught of fan boys begins...
"Oscars are bullshit WAH!"
"Oscars are fixed WAH!"
"Nobody cares about Oscars anyway WAH!"
Sorry guys, Hugo was extremely well received. DOTM was not. Everyone knew it had no chance of winning.
Everyone exept me.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:22 amby MagnusLabel
When TF lost to the f@!king pooh-hole bear in Oscar Visual Effects 2007, I know that TF would never receive any prize in Oscar.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:31 amby DevastaTTor
RhA wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:How come the oscars are bullshit? They probably saw all the special effects and were like, woo... crazy i guess... well, from what I actually made out from all the craziness... And then they forget about it, coz it leaves no lasting impression.
Its not just about how crazy the visuals are, its about how effectively they are applied. I don't really care about the oscars, but if thats how they were rating special effects, I completely agree.
The oscars are bullshit because it's a circle jerk.
Yep, it's Hollywood loving on Hollywood. And in that world, Martin Scorsese beats out Michael Bay every time.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:58 amby KingEmperor
DevastaTTor wrote:RhA wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:How come the oscars are bullshit? They probably saw all the special effects and were like, woo... crazy i guess... well, from what I actually made out from all the craziness... And then they forget about it, coz it leaves no lasting impression.
Its not just about how crazy the visuals are, its about how effectively they are applied. I don't really care about the oscars, but if thats how they were rating special effects, I completely agree.
The oscars are bullshit because it's a circle jerk.
Yep, it's Hollywood loving on Hollywood. And in that world, Martin Scorsese beats out Michael Bay every time.
Hollywood hates Michael Bay, but loves the money he brings in. Haha.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:37 amby dragons
wow not to sound negative i knew we wouldnt get anything but hugo did clean sweep those award shows always seem to be rigged to me fans who vote for winners are ones i watch , mtv, teen choice.
really hugo didnt make that much money at boxoffice to some of films that it was up against at boxoffice
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:40 amby Starscream GaGa
People the awards are NOT about how much they got in box office!
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:23 amby Evil_the_Nub
Starscream GaGa wrote:People the awards are NOT about how much they got in box office!
We know, it's about old farts giving themselves awards and somehow they've convinced everyone those awards are the most important. The movies that win these awards were only made to win awards. Like RhA said, circle jerk. I quit caring about the Oscars a long time ago because of that, this is yet another nail in that coffin.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:27 amby Sodan-1
The categories DoTM was nominated for are what I like to refer to as the 'Window dressing awards'. They're categories worth having to recognise the production teams' achievements, but whether they're good or bad they'll never make or break a movie.
I know people wanted DoTM to win something but realistically it was never going to happen. You're always going to get different winners depending on how they're chosen i.e. fans, judges, or members of the industry. Some people may call that 'rigged', but its simply different groups with different standards. The Oscars are probably the most pretigious of the movie awards. To let a movie like DoTM or Rise of The Planet of The Apes beat something like Hugo or War Horse would be like saying an X-Factor tune is better than Mozart or Pink Floyd.
Bottom line: who gives a sh!t about awards ceremonies?
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:43 amby Starscream GaGa
Evil_the_Nub wrote:Starscream GaGa wrote:People the awards are NOT about how much they got in box office!
We know, it's about old farts giving themselves awards and somehow they've convinced everyone those awards are the most important. The movies that win these awards were only made to win awards. Like RhA said, circle jerk. I quit caring about the Oscars a long time ago because of that, this is yet another nail in that coffin.
If you didn't care you wouldn't be posting here.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:44 amby Sodan-1
Evil_the_Nub wrote:The movies that win these awards were only made to win awards.
And the Transformers movies were only made to make money, so what exactly qualifies as a good movie? That is a question that can only be answered by your own opinion and applies only to you.
Evil_the_Nub wrote:I quit caring about the Oscars a long time ago because of that, this is yet another nail in that coffin.
And if Transformers had won an Oscar you'd be saying that the Oscars had finally changed their ways and started to improve. Let's be honest, there's going to be quite a bit of bias floating around no matter which side of the fence you come down on. I could argue that if it wasn't for the Oscars then movies like The King's Speech, A Beautiful Mind or Gandhi would
never win an award.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:56 amby bdougwrx
Megatron Wolf wrote:just because a movie has alot of effects doesnt mean it should win anything, especially when the cg isnt even that great. They CGI in DOTM wasnt bad but it wasnt great either. when you see cg in the movie you know its cg cause it looks like cg, great cg should look like its a real life prop on the set not like it was added in later. It would be one thing if they did something nwe bit they didnt, the effects looked the same as the first movie. Out of all the movies there either planet of the apes or harry potter should've won, not a fan of either movie but the effects were awesome. but as we all know its the oscars so the things that should win never do.
Agreed, some of the cg in DOTM was great, but other parts just looked bad. I haven't seem Hugo, Apes or HP, but I thought the cg in Real Steel was really good and better, as a whole, than DOTM.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:57 amby Dorkimus
Awwwwww...how sad. Well don't worry. Maybe TF3 can still win some Razzie-awards.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:40 amby optimuscarlos
To be honest I think Transformers movies are not oscars material.
Actually, the only thing I can rescue from the movies are the redesigns of the characters which I like the most.
I didn't even bought all the characters toys, I just pick the ones I thought were the best executed.
I only watched transformers on the theater once each, and I haven't been interested on watch them again, not even on cable.
Transformers Prime is a much better show. I have watched the entire first season twice, while I wait for the second.
You don't need to dinamite every single pixel on screen or to make a close up of some blonde ass to make something
that people will want to watch over and over.
I don't hate transformers movies, I liked them while I was on the theater.
But they have a flavor that don't last enough.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:08 amby DevastaTTor
Starscream GaGa wrote:People the awards are NOT about how much they got in box office!
I agree and in the categories TF3 was nominated, it's still about how sound or effects assist to tell the story. With all the TF films, story took a back seat to great, in-your-face effects.
TF3 was probably the most technically advanced film of the year. I think we can all agree on that. But the better story always wins the day in Hollywood, especially when awards season roles around.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:09 amby Noideaforaname
Eh, not surprised. Hugo was obviously going to be the "movie that no one heard of that won all the awards" since we first heard the nominations.
It's not like DotM's billions earned, upcoming sequel, theme park ride, and toys are in any way tarnished.
Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon Receives 3 Oscar Nominations
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:34 amby Dead Metal
Seriously, did anyone really think that DOTM would win?
I'm more interested in the comedy awards anyway, at least those are mostly funny.
