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spiderbob007 wrote:They forgot the category for Ultimate betrayal of a character by making him complicit in the deaths of thousands of human beings just to make the point that the Decepticons are BAD!

And the winner is - Optimus Prime!

I was willing to forgive the abomination that was Dark of the Moon up to the point that Prime was depicted as a being willing to sacrifice sentient beings to make a point.

So much for the quote, “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.”

I don't understand, what exactly did he do? I don't remember anything in the movie like that.

Wait, are you referring to the Autobots being forced to leave Earth around the time of the beginning of the Decepticon invasion? Because that was a situation where there was no right answer. It was either go along with it, but fake it, then rally and fight back against the Decepticons, or refuse to leave, and be forced to fight against the humans.

spiderbob007 wrote:They forgot the category for Ultimate betrayal of a character by making him complicit in the deaths of thousands of human beings just to make the point that the Decepticons are BAD!

And the winner is - Optimus Prime!

I was willing to forgive the abomination that was Dark of the Moon up to the point that Prime was depicted as a being willing to sacrifice sentient beings to make a point.

So much for the quote, “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.”

I didn't even know that was a category. Who else was nominated?

DOTM is one of a handful of movies that I couldn't even finish. I made it to the part where the Autobots and humans are going to take back the city, and turned the movie off out of boredom. (No, I didn't go see it in the theater. ROTF showed me that Bay's movies aren't worth seeing in the theater.)

The thing that disappoints me the most about Bay directing a 4th TF movie is that we're going to get another batch of toys that I have no interest in buying. Thank goodness for Classics and Fall of Cyberton.

spiderbob007 wrote:They forgot the category for Ultimate betrayal of a character by making him complicit in the deaths of thousands of human beings just to make the point that the Decepticons are BAD!

And the winner is - Optimus Prime!

I was willing to forgive the abomination that was Dark of the Moon up to the point that Prime was depicted as a being willing to sacrifice sentient beings to make a point.

So much for the quote, “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.”

Optimus was a badass in DOTM. I hope he stays a psychopath for TF4. We need more murderous heroes!!!

spiderbob007 wrote:They forgot the category for Ultimate betrayal of a character by making him complicit in the deaths of thousands of human beings just to make the point that the Decepticons are BAD!

And the winner is - Optimus Prime!

I was willing to forgive the abomination that was Dark of the Moon up to the point that Prime was depicted as a being willing to sacrifice sentient beings to make a point.

So much for the quote, “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.”

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings... intill they decide they want to banish the only ones that have the ability to really protect them. So in reality, the humans are the ones that gave up that so called "right".

"Optimus was a badass in DOTM. I hope he stays a psychopath for TF4. We need more murderous heroes!!!"


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5150 Cruiser wrote:

spiderbob007 wrote:They forgot the category for Ultimate betrayal of a character by making him complicit in the deaths of thousands of human beings just to make the point that the Decepticons are BAD!

And the winner is - Optimus Prime!

I was willing to forgive the abomination that was Dark of the Moon up to the point that Prime was depicted as a being willing to sacrifice sentient beings to make a point.

So much for the quote, “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.”

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings... intill they decide they want to banish the only ones that have the ability to really protect them. So in reality, the humans are the ones that gave up that so called "right".

Exactly. Optimus didn't say "Well, the Decepticons are invading, it's been fun, but we really have to split." Instead, the humans said "We've struggled fighting against a few Decepticons in the past and ultimately only achieve major victories with your help, but we're pretty sure we can handle this full-scale invasion by ourselves. Now get the hell off our planet, because we're going to blame you for this."

Dagon wrote:So, it didn't win any Oscars, so that just means that the Oscar doesn't mean anything anymore.
But, it could win some of these awards, but people don't like those awards, so then Razzies don;t mean anything.
AND, the opinions and criticisms of people who don't like the movies don't matter, because they didn't like the movies, but the opinions of people who don't acknowledge the Razzie as a legit award because they don't like the Razzies or the choice of films that win Razzies, those people are perfectly correct for dismissing a legit award?

"What you don't like doesn't matter because it doesn't satisfy my need for an explaination but I don't have to like anything I don't like and that's perfectly acceptable!" Lol seibertron.com, Lol.

While I can understand where you are coming from I don't think I could call the Razzies a legitimate award show since it just seems more like trolling on a grand scale. Some nominations are written in to look like jokes, like putting Nick Cage and who ever he is on screen with in his 3 2011 movies as a worst couple nomination. And like Bouncy X said they are lots of movies that came out that were way worse than any of the ones listed. I have to agree they just go after the bad movies that did well.

Well to be fair movies that are irredeemably horrid don't really need anyone to say "this movie sucks", everyone knows that. Transformers is a film that's overrated and in my opinion it deserves to get jabbed as much as possible. I REALLY hope the next movie does not do as well as the last, but then I almost would like to see a Transformers five after that, maybe even a six, because maybe the only way to get people to hate these films is to hammer it into their skulls repeatedly.

Fenrir Prime wrote:

Dagon wrote:So, it didn't win any Oscars, so that just means that the Oscar doesn't mean anything anymore.
But, it could win some of these awards, but people don't like those awards, so then Razzies don;t mean anything.
AND, the opinions and criticisms of people who don't like the movies don't matter, because they didn't like the movies, but the opinions of people who don't acknowledge the Razzie as a legit award because they don't like the Razzies or the choice of films that win Razzies, those people are perfectly correct for dismissing a legit award?

"What you don't like doesn't matter because it doesn't satisfy my need for an explaination but I don't have to like anything I don't like and that's perfectly acceptable!" Lol seibertron.com, Lol.

While I can understand where you are coming from I don't think I could call the Razzies a legitimate award show since it just seems more like trolling on a grand scale. Some nominations are written in to look like jokes, like putting Nick Cage and who ever he is on screen with in his 3 2011 movies as a worst couple nomination. And like Bouncy X said they are lots of movies that came out that were way worse than any of the ones listed. I have to agree they just go after the bad movies that did well.

Ok, but I don't like baseball, but I recognize the Baseball Hall of Fame as a legit honor. Just because something I like doesn't win a prestigeous award does not devalue the award, and vice versa. "Oh, HUGO won the Oscar because of Scorsesi, that's the only reason.....Oscars don;t mean anything anyway..." A person not finding value in the award doesn't devalue the award.
Know how people have said for five years that Hasbro/Bay/All'a them don't care if fans don't like the movies because the movies aren't made for the fans?I suppose the Oscars/Razzies/Baseball HoF are organized on the same principle. Winning an Oscar means something to movie industry people. They don't NOT vote on HoF inductees because I don't care about baseball.
Just like Michael Bay doesn't care that someone didn't like his movie, I'm sure the Academy doesn't care that this website is amazed DOTM didn't win an Oscar. I just find it super cute that we can't not like the movies without being given a stern talking to, but it's fine to just write off an element that didn't like the movies becuase lol they don't know anything they're just old people who pander to the industry lol.