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Capt.Failure wrote:GaGa, here's the problem. It's not that you must conform to extremes of love or hate, it's that you start a thread clearly claiming you are happy that DotM is nominated win Razzies. The relevance of the Razzies (and don't get me wrong, they are not relevant) is not important, nor are claims of you having to conform to extreme opinions.

What I'm calling you on is that you are essentially saying, "This is something I liked and I'm happy that it's being branded as utter crap."

It's a matter of you giving us nothing to take you seriously by.

Its amusing, because it is. If you can't laugh at yourself and what you like, then thats your fault, not mine. I am highly amused by things that demean what I like, but that's because I don't get personally offended when things I like are insulted.

5150 Cruiser wrote:Oh please.. Your not fooling anyone. Every movie thread you have been envolved with has been to deminer or critisise the movie. Don't sit there and even try and act like you did this just cause you didn't see a thread about it. Nearly every coment out of your mouth is negative.
No one is putting any words in your mouth. Your actions do that just fine. And call me a kid all you want. Concidering that i'm older than you, that just makes you a baby!(again, your actions are proving that)
Now start acting right before i take you over my knee boy!

Yes, a lot of my comments are negative. But that's because nearly every other comment is for. I gladly point out flaws in everything I watch. I read Naruto, doesn't mean I don't see the constant flaws and comment on them. I love watching Glee, although I wont sit back all the huge flaws they consistently make. There are PLENTY of things I love that are critically panned and I know it and I love it. It's not just DOTM, I'm just not the person who's going to sit back and say something is perfect when it very clearly isn't and I'm not going to get behind people insulting or demeaning things that are considered more perfect in order to try and make what they like seem better.

Call me baby all you want, I really don't care, kiddo.

Starscream GaGa wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:GaGa, here's the problem. It's not that you must conform to extremes of love or hate, it's that you start a thread clearly claiming you are happy that DotM is nominated win Razzies. The relevance of the Razzies (and don't get me wrong, they are not relevant) is not important, nor are claims of you having to conform to extreme opinions.

What I'm calling you on is that you are essentially saying, "This is something I liked and I'm happy that it's being branded as utter crap."

It's a matter of you giving us nothing to take you seriously by.

Its amusing, because it is. If you can't laugh at yourself and what you like, then thats your fault, not mine. I am highly amused by things that demean what I like, but that's because I don't get personally offended when things I like are insulted.

5150 Cruiser wrote:Oh please.. Your not fooling anyone. Every movie thread you have been envolved with has been to deminer or critisise the movie. Don't sit there and even try and act like you did this just cause you didn't see a thread about it. Nearly every coment out of your mouth is negative.
No one is putting any words in your mouth. Your actions do that just fine. And call me a kid all you want. Concidering that i'm older than you, that just makes you a baby!(again, your actions are proving that)
Now start acting right before i take you over my knee boy!

Yes, a lot of my comments are negative. But that's because nearly every other comment is for. I gladly point out flaws in everything I watch. I read Naruto, doesn't mean I don't see the constant flaws and comment on them. I love watching Glee, although I wont sit back all the huge flaws they consistently make. There are PLENTY of things I love that are critically panned and I know it and I love it. It's not just DOTM, I'm just not the person who's going to sit back and say something is perfect when it very clearly isn't and I'm not going to get behind people insulting or demeaning things that are considered more perfect in order to try and make what they like seem better.

Call me baby all you want, I really don't care, kiddo.

Mistaking "not being able to take a thing you say seriously" with "angry because you find criticism with things you like" is your malfunction in this thread, not ours. What sets me off is fallacious logic, and your posts stink of it.

Capt.Failure wrote:Mistaking "not being able to take a thing you say seriously" with "angry because you find criticism with things you like" is your malfunction in this thread, not ours. What sets me off is fallacious logic, and your posts stink of it.

Honey, no. The only reason you don't take it seriously is BECAUSE its criticism of things you like. My points are always valid. Yours, not so much.

Starscream GaGa wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:Mistaking "not being able to take a thing you say seriously" with "angry because you find criticism with things you like" is your malfunction in this thread, not ours. What sets me off is fallacious logic, and your posts stink of it.

Honey, no. The only reason you don't take it seriously is BECAUSE its criticism of things you like. My points are always valid. Yours, not so much.

"Nobody but me is right!"

Yep, not conceited at all. And I'm not your "honey." I have better standards than that. Now if you'll excuse me I prefer to post in threads with merit, not thinly disguised flame bait.

Capt.Failure wrote:

Starscream GaGa wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:Mistaking "not being able to take a thing you say seriously" with "angry because you find criticism with things you like" is your malfunction in this thread, not ours. What sets me off is fallacious logic, and your posts stink of it.

Honey, no. The only reason you don't take it seriously is BECAUSE its criticism of things you like. My points are always valid. Yours, not so much.

"Nobody but me is right!"

Yep, not conceited at all. And I'm not your "honey." I have better standards than that. Now if you'll excuse me I prefer to post in threads with merit, not thinly disguised flame bait.

Oh, dear. I think you mistook a phrase I use on everyone for one chosen specially for you. Sorry! I have no interest in you lol.

Starscream GaGa wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:GaGa, here's the problem. It's not that you must conform to extremes of love or hate, it's that you start a thread clearly claiming you are happy that DotM is nominated win Razzies. The relevance of the Razzies (and don't get me wrong, they are not relevant) is not important, nor are claims of you having to conform to extreme opinions.

What I'm calling you on is that you are essentially saying, "This is something I liked and I'm happy that it's being branded as utter crap."

It's a matter of you giving us nothing to take you seriously by.

Its amusing, because it is. If you can't laugh at yourself and what you like, then thats your fault, not mine. I am highly amused by things that demean what I like, but that's because I don't get personally offended when things I like are insulted.

Its not about getting offended when the things you like are insulted. captain failure is 100% correct. Your contradicting yourself left and right. If you can't see that in this thread and nearly every other movie thread your involved in then thats your fault. You claim to like the movie yet you seem to go out of your way in attempts to prove other wise.

Starscream GaGa wrote:Yes, a lot of my comments are negative.

All of your comments about the movies are negative.

Starscream GaGa wrote: I gladly point out flaws in everything I watch. I read Naruto, doesn't mean I don't see the constant flaws and comment on them. I love watching Glee, although I wont sit back all the huge flaws they consistently make. There are PLENTY of things I love that are critically panned and I know it and I love it. It's not just DOTM, I'm just not the person who's going to sit back and say something is perfect when it very clearly isn't and I'm not going to get behind people insulting or demeaning things that are considered more perfect in order to try and make what they like seem better.

Call me baby all you want, I really don't care, kiddo.

Its one thing to point out flaws. I'll be the first to admit DOTM is far from perfect, but again, you claim to have enjoyed the movie yet every post of yours is a negative comment against it. This makes it very hard to take your defenses seriously.

5150 Cruiser wrote: Its not about getting offended when the things you like are insulted. captain failure is 100% correct. Your contradicting yourself left and right. If you can't see that in this thread and nearly every other movie thread your involved in then thats your fault. You claim to like the movie yet you seem to go out of your way in attempts to prove other wise.

No, I didn't. You keep saying I've said things I haven't, that's completely different.

5150 Cruiser wrote: All of your comments about the movies are negative.

I was one of the first people on this forum to see the movie, because I won a competition to see it before release and my review was very positive.

5150 Cruiser wrote: Its one thing to point out flaws. I'll be the first to admit DOTM is far from perfect, but again, you claim to have enjoyed the movie yet every post of yours is a negative comment against it. This makes it very hard to take your defenses seriously.

Quite frankly I don't think you can say wether I like it or not. I want to discuss flaws when I mention flaws, not high-five over what they did right, this forum has enough of that.

And with that, I'm out. Not a single comment on this thread has been on topic. You two just brought different debates and your personal opinion on me in here and took it to hell. Tra la! Seeya!

Starscream GaGa, Capt. Failure, and 5150 Cruiser, all of you need to stop before things go downhill. I will issue warnings if you persist in this argument.

Please keep the conversation focused on the topic.

1- This thread is raping my internethood

2- Am I crazy for wanting DOTM to win everthing? If Bay would have a sense of humor, he'd attend.

RhA wrote:1- This thread is raping my internethood

2- Am I crazy for wanting DOTM to win everthing? If Bay would have a sense of humor, he'd attend.

I'm pretty sure Bay doesn't give a frak one way or another. His reaction to critics is generally to chuckle and say, "Get a load of this guy." Granted if critics reacted with the general childish vitriol to films I made I would also be the better man and ignore them too. Considering the Razzies are an award founded by such trol-er...sorry, "critics" it's no surprise he doesn't attend.

Granted I'd also like to see it, just so he could say, "Thank you for saying my multi-billion dollar film trilogy is somehow a failure, calling my fans and by extension your readers idiots, and making yourselves look like 4chan posters on what are supposed to be sources of professional journalism. This award will be without a doubt the most expensive piece of toilet paper I've ever used."