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RhA wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

RhA wrote:1- This thread is raping my internethood

2- Am I crazy for wanting DOTM to win everthing? If Bay would have a sense of humor, he'd attend.

I'm pretty sure Bay doesn't give a frak one way or another. His reaction to critics is generally to chuckle and say, "Get a load of this guy." Granted if critics reacted with the general childish vitriol to films I made I would also be the better man and ignore them too. Considering the Razzies are an award founded by such trol-er...sorry, "critics" it's no surprise he doesn't attend.

Granted I'd also like to see it, just so he could say, "Thank you for saying my multi-billion dollar film trilogy is somehow a failure, calling my fans and by extension your readers idiots, and making yourselves look like 4chan posters on what are supposed to be sources of professional journalism. This award will be without a doubt the most expensive piece of toilet paper I've ever used."

In a banana suit.

My suppressed camp gay side would disagree. Bay's a pretty stylish dresser and wouldn't wear a banana suit.

it deserves all of these

I really don't think DOTM was a bad movie. In fact, it was a vast improvement over the first two. Especially you, ROTF, you know what you did. It wasn't a great movie, let's be honest here, it's a Michael Bay flick; dumb but lovable. But the worst any-of-those-things? I think not. Honestly the other nominees are way worse than any of the nominees for DOTM.

Shadowman wrote:I really don't think DOTM was a bad movie. In fact, it was a vast improvement over the first two. Especially you, ROTF, you know what you did. It wasn't a great movie, let's be honest here, it's a Michael Bay flick; dumb but lovable. But the worst any-of-those-things? I think not. Honestly the other nominees are way worse than any of the nominees for DOTM.

I would argue the first two, especially the second. The critical establishment has lost touch with truly bad films. Spectacle driven entertainment has always been a part of our culture and just because it's taken a new form doesn't make it any different. The reason Bays films get these awards over truly terrible ones is twofold:

1: It's Michael Bay, who couldn't please critics if he crapped gold eggs.
2: It's easier to take a film critics didn't like that was wildly successful and dump on it further than take something godawful that slipped under the radar and trash that instead.

The Razzies are much like their Oscar counterparts, a circlejerk of supposed professionals yes manning each other. I was 100% honest when I compared modern critics to less than savory image boards. When you attack your readers for disagreeing with you then you lose your right to being called a professional.

*sigh*
Why couldn't they have announced these a month ago, then they might have got a better director to do the next series of movies. Bay can do explosion porn brilliantly, but I'd like a version where I don't need seasickness tablets to make it all the way though.

DOTM was mindless fun, but it certainly wasn't good and deserves every Razzie it gets - especially 'worst onscreen couple'.

I'm laughing so hard at McDreamy getting a nomination though, I didn't think he was any worse in this than his normal performances in the awful Greys Anatomy, but my better half wont be impressed - she loves him

I can see how most of these are deserving, but Patrick Dempsey as worst actor is just trolling. Gould was one of the best written and performed human characters in the trilogy and one of the reasons DotM was a better story than RotF. The nomination for Ken is IMO totally justified, since his scenes damn near ruined the film. Dempsey did nothing as bad as Jeon did though. It's like they just wanted to nominate the film for as many categories as possible. On a side note, is it possible for the Academy Awards to nominate two supporting roles for the same film?

The CGI effects where good I'll give DOTM that despite my dislike for the overall look of the robots.

The movie is well deserving for all the rest of the razzie nominations. They forgot to add Shia as worst actor. All that screaming of his lines Dumb. His schtick is getting old.

While I really wanted to like Transformers, the movies only got better looking while the story line and the designs went down hill in my opinion.

The first movie was a nice kick off and an interesting take. There were inconsistencies in the first movie. The second movie was even more stunning and I actually could appreciate some of the designs in the robots, however it stopped being a movie about giant interstellar robots and more of a boy's struggle to become a man. The story was weak, and the entire thing was a flop to me.

The final movie (DOTM) was just a visually stunning movie. Seriously some of the best I have seen and in my opinion close to things like Avatar. However by this time I have come to despise Bumblebee, loath Sam, and was oddly confused on how wooden and lifeless the barbie doll they chose to have in the movie was. By this time the movie was completely and utterly trash as far as a story line and character design went.

You have a Shockwave with a giant mechanical Dune Worm destroying pretty much everything, but he leaves it to get taken out by a human sniper. Soundwave goes out like a punk with a single shot from Bumblebee? Iron Hide gets written out like a 3rd grader came up with his ending, but yet Sam turns into Superman, being able to withstand being tossed around by Starscream and slammed into walls without chipping a nail.

The Autobots in the third movie consider it ok that the Decepticons pretty much eliminate major populated cities, but when it comes down to it the Decepticons are the ones taking prisoners and the Autobots are the ones that terminate without prejudice? The biggest shock to me was when Megatron just sits there and lets a human girl just talk down to him as if he was an emo thirteen year old going through his first rejection. This was not the proud and determined leader of the Decepticons. Bay had turned him into a character from Twilight complete with sparkly little things coming out of his wounds.

There was so many things wrong by the end of the third movie that I just stopped caring and thought, well at least it looks good in 3D and I may get the movie just to complete the set, but it was huge disappointment as far as I was concerned.

Point being, the movies suck as movies. But they're great music videos. Of course I hate music videos, so that doesn't really help.

I don't consider Michael Bay's camera work to be good either, I'm not sure why anyone would. People who have worked with him or have just been around him hate him personally, he leaks douchebaggery from his pores. Many people blamed the writers that ROTF was horrid, Bay pretty much did, but then TFPrime happened, and even if it's story is sub par it still blows the movies out of the park. I think people also use the fact that Spielberg loves the guy as an excuse for thinking Bay is an amazing director, but FYI Kingdom of the Crystal Skull happened, Spielberg is senile and overrated. I don't give Bay props for being a pyromaniac either, I an get my explosion fix elsewhere, like every year on July 4th.

The redeeming factor of Bays films are the special effects, but then he's not even responsible for that, it's a bunch wizards sitting at their computers for months on end. Also I often like the musical scores to his films (dis-including Linkin Park and whatnot) particularly some of the orchestra from The Rock, but hey that's largely because Hideo's sound team kinda ripped it off for Metal Gear Solid.

People go to see his movies for the big exsplodey stuff, his movies are successful for the same reason people like watching buildings get demolished on TV, it doesn't make him a good director by any stretch of the imagination.

Finally the main reason I'm pissed about another movie being made is because the toys will be shelf warming again. Couldn't care less about the drooling masses who go to see it.