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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Bouncy X » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:37 am

i'm confused....

this whole thread starts with people arguing with each other, even including quotes from previous posts but there's nothing before any of it. were things deleted before i got to the site or something? very weird. lol

as for the razzies, there have been MANY movies out the past year a million times worse than everything they nominated and they get no mention. they obviously just target the bigger obvious names to get attention, regardless of how much or little they deserve it.
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Shadowman » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:42 pm

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Why couldn't they have announced these a month ago, then they might have got a better director to do the next series of movies.


Seeing as all the movies have been nominated for Razzies, I think we can safely say the producers really just don't care about an award show telling them they suck.

Rushie wrote:I can see how most of these are deserving, but Patrick Dempsey as worst actor is just trolling. Gould was one of the best written and performed human characters in the trilogy and one of the reasons DotM was a better story than RotF. The nomination for Ken is IMO totally justified, since his scenes damn near ruined the film. Dempsey did nothing as bad as Jeon did though. It's like they just wanted to nominate the film for as many categories as possible. On a side note, is it possible for the Academy Awards to nominate two supporting roles for the same film?


Actually, I have to agree with you there. Ken Jeong was fun at first, in his early roles, but over time he sort of devolved into what we saw in DOTM. Dempsey was great, though.

Bouncy X wrote:i'm confused....

this whole thread starts with people arguing with each other, even including quotes from previous posts but there's nothing before any of it. were things deleted before i got to the site or something? very weird. lol


I guess you can't see all the posts before it was made into a news post. Which is weird. Are you viewing it from the forums? Because I can see the thread in its entirety.
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby SlyTF1 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:43 pm

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Ha ha ha! Here we go with this bullsh!t again. Yeah, that's why DOTM is number 4 in the highest grossing movies of all time, that's why it's # 2 on the list for 2011 movies, that's why it made over a billion dollars, that's why Bay is here to stay, and that's why there's going to be a TF 4. You don't get that far with the "worst movie", you just don't. :michaelbay:
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby TulioDude » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:19 pm

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as for the razzies, there have been MANY movies out the past year a million times worse than everything they nominated and they get no mention. they obviously just target the bigger obvious names to get attention, regardless of how much or little they deserve it.


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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Shadowman » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:45 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:Ha ha ha! Here we go with this bullsh!t again. Yeah, that's why DOTM is number 4 in the highest grossing movies of all time, that's why it's # 2 on the list for 2011 movies, that's why it made over a billion dollars, that's why Bay is here to stay, and that's why there's going to be a TF 4. You don't get that far with the "worst movie", you just don't. :michaelbay:


The problem with that is that money doesn't equal quality. Avatar is in the same boat; sure it was ground-breakingly pretty, but it came with a blatant environmentalist theme and the plot was another rehash of Dances With Wolves. And it is the highest grossing movie of all time.

That, and at least three of the Twilight movies are top 50 highest grossing movies of all time, and the Phantom Menace is currently ranked at number 11. So...yeah, money =/= quality.
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby SlyTF1 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:06 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:Ha ha ha! Here we go with this bullsh!t again. Yeah, that's why DOTM is number 4 in the highest grossing movies of all time, that's why it's # 2 on the list for 2011 movies, that's why it made over a billion dollars, that's why Bay is here to stay, and that's why there's going to be a TF 4. You don't get that far with the "worst movie", you just don't. :michaelbay:


The problem with that is that money doesn't equal quality. Avatar is in the same boat; sure it was ground-breakingly pretty, but it came with a blatant environmentalist theme and the plot was another rehash of Dances With Wolves. And it is the highest grossing movie of all time.

That, and at least three of the Twilight movies are top 50 highest grossing movies of all time, and the Phantom Menace is currently ranked at number 11. So...yeah, money =/= quality.


The point I'm trying to make: If these people who nominated DOTM for all this crap where trying the hurt the movie, they're too late. And Bay should be proud of himself for making it this far.
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

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As for DoTM...does anyone think Bay cares? I liked this movie personally as well as the first (though I feel like the human parts were more stomachable, especially Gould) What bugs me is that the Decepticons had to be convinced to execute Autobots for some damn reason, but whatever. Point is, Bay doesn't care and he shouldn't care, and if he even bothered with an acceptance speech it should just be three words: "Deal with it."
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Dagon » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:20 pm

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So, it didn't win any Oscars, so that just means that the Oscar doesn't mean anything anymore.
But, it could win some of these awards, but people don't like those awards, so then Razzies don;t mean anything.
AND, the opinions and criticisms of people who don't like the movies don't matter, because they didn't like the movies, but the opinions of people who don't acknowledge the Razzie as a legit award because they don't like the Razzies or the choice of films that win Razzies, those people are perfectly correct for dismissing a legit award?

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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby spiderbob007 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:23 pm

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They forgot the category for Ultimate betrayal of a character by making him complicit in the deaths of thousands of human beings just to make the point that the Decepticons are BAD!

And the winner is - Optimus Prime!

I was willing to forgive the abomination that was Dark of the Moon up to the point that Prime was depicted as a being willing to sacrifice sentient beings to make a point.

So much for the quote, “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Shadowman » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:30 pm

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spiderbob007 wrote:They forgot the category for Ultimate betrayal of a character by making him complicit in the deaths of thousands of human beings just to make the point that the Decepticons are BAD!

And the winner is - Optimus Prime!

I was willing to forgive the abomination that was Dark of the Moon up to the point that Prime was depicted as a being willing to sacrifice sentient beings to make a point.

So much for the quote, “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."


I don't understand, what exactly did he do? I don't remember anything in the movie like that.

Wait, are you referring to the Autobots being forced to leave Earth around the time of the beginning of the Decepticon invasion? Because that was a situation where there was no right answer. It was either go along with it, but fake it, then rally and fight back against the Decepticons, or refuse to leave, and be forced to fight against the humans.
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Dagon » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:05 pm

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spiderbob007 wrote:They forgot the category for Ultimate betrayal of a character by making him complicit in the deaths of thousands of human beings just to make the point that the Decepticons are BAD!

And the winner is - Optimus Prime!

I was willing to forgive the abomination that was Dark of the Moon up to the point that Prime was depicted as a being willing to sacrifice sentient beings to make a point.

So much for the quote, “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."



I didn't even know that was a category. Who else was nominated?
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Ratman_tf » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:06 pm

DOTM is one of a handful of movies that I couldn't even finish. I made it to the part where the Autobots and humans are going to take back the city, and turned the movie off out of boredom. (No, I didn't go see it in the theater. ROTF showed me that Bay's movies aren't worth seeing in the theater.)

The thing that disappoints me the most about Bay directing a 4th TF movie is that we're going to get another batch of toys that I have no interest in buying. Thank goodness for Classics and Fall of Cyberton.
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby SlyTF1 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:10 pm

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spiderbob007 wrote:They forgot the category for Ultimate betrayal of a character by making him complicit in the deaths of thousands of human beings just to make the point that the Decepticons are BAD!

And the winner is - Optimus Prime!

I was willing to forgive the abomination that was Dark of the Moon up to the point that Prime was depicted as a being willing to sacrifice sentient beings to make a point.

So much for the quote, “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."


Optimus was a badass in DOTM. I hope he stays a psychopath for TF4. We need more murderous heroes!!! :michaelbay:
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:33 pm

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spiderbob007 wrote:They forgot the category for Ultimate betrayal of a character by making him complicit in the deaths of thousands of human beings just to make the point that the Decepticons are BAD!

And the winner is - Optimus Prime!

I was willing to forgive the abomination that was Dark of the Moon up to the point that Prime was depicted as a being willing to sacrifice sentient beings to make a point.

So much for the quote, “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."


Freedom is the right of all sentient beings... intill they decide they want to banish the only ones that have the ability to really protect them. So in reality, the humans are the ones that gave up that so called "right".
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Fenrir Prime » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:37 pm

"Optimus was a badass in DOTM. I hope he stays a psychopath for TF4. We need more murderous heroes!!!"


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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Shadowman » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:41 pm

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spiderbob007 wrote:They forgot the category for Ultimate betrayal of a character by making him complicit in the deaths of thousands of human beings just to make the point that the Decepticons are BAD!

And the winner is - Optimus Prime!

I was willing to forgive the abomination that was Dark of the Moon up to the point that Prime was depicted as a being willing to sacrifice sentient beings to make a point.

So much for the quote, “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."


Freedom is the right of all sentient beings... intill they decide they want to banish the only ones that have the ability to really protect them. So in reality, the humans are the ones that gave up that so called "right".


Exactly. Optimus didn't say "Well, the Decepticons are invading, it's been fun, but we really have to split." Instead, the humans said "We've struggled fighting against a few Decepticons in the past and ultimately only achieve major victories with your help, but we're pretty sure we can handle this full-scale invasion by ourselves. Now get the hell off our planet, because we're going to blame you for this."
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Fenrir Prime » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:50 pm

Dagon wrote:So, it didn't win any Oscars, so that just means that the Oscar doesn't mean anything anymore.
But, it could win some of these awards, but people don't like those awards, so then Razzies don;t mean anything.
AND, the opinions and criticisms of people who don't like the movies don't matter, because they didn't like the movies, but the opinions of people who don't acknowledge the Razzie as a legit award because they don't like the Razzies or the choice of films that win Razzies, those people are perfectly correct for dismissing a legit award?

"What you don't like doesn't matter because it doesn't satisfy my need for an explaination but I don't have to like anything I don't like and that's perfectly acceptable!" Lol seibertron.com, Lol.


While I can understand where you are coming from I don't think I could call the Razzies a legitimate award show since it just seems more like trolling on a grand scale. Some nominations are written in to look like jokes, like putting Nick Cage and who ever he is on screen with in his 3 2011 movies as a worst couple nomination. And like Bouncy X said they are lots of movies that came out that were way worse than any of the ones listed. I have to agree they just go after the bad movies that did well.
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Vicalliose » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:08 am

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Well to be fair movies that are irredeemably horrid don't really need anyone to say "this movie sucks", everyone knows that. Transformers is a film that's overrated and in my opinion it deserves to get jabbed as much as possible. I REALLY hope the next movie does not do as well as the last, but then I almost would like to see a Transformers five after that, maybe even a six, because maybe the only way to get people to hate these films is to hammer it into their skulls repeatedly. :lol:
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Dagon » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:24 am

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Dagon wrote:So, it didn't win any Oscars, so that just means that the Oscar doesn't mean anything anymore.
But, it could win some of these awards, but people don't like those awards, so then Razzies don;t mean anything.
AND, the opinions and criticisms of people who don't like the movies don't matter, because they didn't like the movies, but the opinions of people who don't acknowledge the Razzie as a legit award because they don't like the Razzies or the choice of films that win Razzies, those people are perfectly correct for dismissing a legit award?

"What you don't like doesn't matter because it doesn't satisfy my need for an explaination but I don't have to like anything I don't like and that's perfectly acceptable!" Lol seibertron.com, Lol.


While I can understand where you are coming from I don't think I could call the Razzies a legitimate award show since it just seems more like trolling on a grand scale. Some nominations are written in to look like jokes, like putting Nick Cage and who ever he is on screen with in his 3 2011 movies as a worst couple nomination. And like Bouncy X said they are lots of movies that came out that were way worse than any of the ones listed. I have to agree they just go after the bad movies that did well.



Ok, but I don't like baseball, but I recognize the Baseball Hall of Fame as a legit honor. Just because something I like doesn't win a prestigeous award does not devalue the award, and vice versa. "Oh, HUGO won the Oscar because of Scorsesi, that's the only reason.....Oscars don;t mean anything anyway..." A person not finding value in the award doesn't devalue the award.
Know how people have said for five years that Hasbro/Bay/All'a them don't care if fans don't like the movies because the movies aren't made for the fans?I suppose the Oscars/Razzies/Baseball HoF are organized on the same principle. Winning an Oscar means something to movie industry people. They don't NOT vote on HoF inductees because I don't care about baseball.
Just like Michael Bay doesn't care that someone didn't like his movie, I'm sure the Academy doesn't care that this website is amazed DOTM didn't win an Oscar. I just find it super cute that we can't not like the movies without being given a stern talking to, but it's fine to just write off an element that didn't like the movies becuase lol they don't know anything they're just old people who pander to the industry lol.
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Fenrir Prime » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:57 pm

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Fenrir Prime wrote:
Dagon wrote:So, it didn't win any Oscars, so that just means that the Oscar doesn't mean anything anymore.
But, it could win some of these awards, but people don't like those awards, so then Razzies don;t mean anything.
AND, the opinions and criticisms of people who don't like the movies don't matter, because they didn't like the movies, but the opinions of people who don't acknowledge the Razzie as a legit award because they don't like the Razzies or the choice of films that win Razzies, those people are perfectly correct for dismissing a legit award?

"What you don't like doesn't matter because it doesn't satisfy my need for an explaination but I don't have to like anything I don't like and that's perfectly acceptable!" Lol seibertron.com, Lol.


While I can understand where you are coming from I don't think I could call the Razzies a legitimate award show since it just seems more like trolling on a grand scale. Some nominations are written in to look like jokes, like putting Nick Cage and who ever he is on screen with in his 3 2011 movies as a worst couple nomination. And like Bouncy X said they are lots of movies that came out that were way worse than any of the ones listed. I have to agree they just go after the bad movies that did well.



Ok, but I don't like baseball, but I recognize the Baseball Hall of Fame as a legit honor. Just because something I like doesn't win a prestigeous award does not devalue the award, and vice versa. "Oh, HUGO won the Oscar because of Scorsesi, that's the only reason.....Oscars don;t mean anything anyway..." A person not finding value in the award doesn't devalue the award.
Know how people have said for five years that Hasbro/Bay/All'a them don't care if fans don't like the movies because the movies aren't made for the fans?I suppose the Oscars/Razzies/Baseball HoF are organized on the same principle. Winning an Oscar means something to movie industry people. They don't NOT vote on HoF inductees because I don't care about baseball.
Just like Michael Bay doesn't care that someone didn't like his movie, I'm sure the Academy doesn't care that this website is amazed DOTM didn't win an Oscar. I just find it super cute that we can't not like the movies without being given a stern talking to, but it's fine to just write off an element that didn't like the movies becuase lol they don't know anything they're just old people who pander to the industry lol.


I never said a thing about the oscars. All I said was that I don't consider the Razzies a legitimate award show, it's more of a joke and that's what I think the makers of it intended it to be. I never said DOTM deserved an oscar at any point. I realize it is a "bad" movie to critics but that doesn't bug me. I think it's just a bit much to consider the Razzies legit awards. They are funny and just there as a much needed foil to the Oscar's.
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

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They've been trying that since 07' and you know what? Each movie does better and than the previous. :D

Haters just can't accept that people really do like these movies. And no amount of "razzies" is going to change that. :APPLAUSE:
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Capt.Failure » Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:29 pm

5150 Cruiser wrote:
Vicalliose wrote:maybe the only way to get people to hate these films is to hammer it into their skulls repeatedly. :lol:


They've been trying that since 07' and you know what? Each movie does better and than the previous. :D

Haters just can't accept that people really do like these movies. And no amount of "razzies" is going to change that. :APPLAUSE:


The general anger about the films can be easily boiled down into a few factors:

1. Transformers fans who didn't like them. This is par the course for fanbases with any kind of movie adaptation.

2. Critics who weren't listened to. Check each film's user score on Rotten Tomatoes.

3. Film buffs who don't like "illegitimate" films being successful, the film equivalent of the "casuals vs. hardcore" debate with video games.

Each of these groups has a bog standard response with their anger:

1. "You're clearly not a TRUE FAN if you liked these films!"

2. "I believe those who consider Transformers a good film to be insufficiently evolved."

3. "No one actually liked those movies, they just think they did since they can't accept having payed to see it!" (actual quote from Reddit)

And we who liked them and the rational minded members of the three groups above, like them or not, just watch the anger and laugh. :roll:

Anyway, more to the point the Razzies are at most a troll award taken seriously only when people want to say "SEE! THE MOVIE YOU LIKED DID SUCK!" And I agree the Oscars are just as bad but for different reasons.
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby Burn » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:10 am

Rest easy fanboys, or grab your pitchforks if you're in the Bayhater camp, whatever works for you.

Adam Sandler cleans house.

No awards for Transformers in the Razzies. Move on.
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Re: Transformers DOTM nominated for 6 Razzie Awards

Postby SlyTF1 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:56 pm

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Burn wrote:Rest easy fanboys, or grab your pitchforks if you're in the Bayhater camp, whatever works for you.

Adam Sandler cleans house.

No awards for Transformers in the Razzies. Move on.


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