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Transformers Film Franchise Partly Responsible For Bigger Box Office Numbers

Postby Autobot032 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:45 pm

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According to this article over at Daily Finance, Transformers, along with other films of the action genre, have helped boost worldwide sales of tickets.

Movies such as Transformers and The Expendables have had great domestic success, but even better overall foreign market success, helping to propel Dark Of The Moon into billionaire's club territory.

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Probably the major catalyst generating the most revenue internationally is action films. "The Expendables" obviously has that as part of its attraction, as does Paramount's "Transformers" franchise. The most recent installment, Dark of the Moon, had domestic ticket sales of $352 million, and global sales of $771 million, for a total of $1.1 billion.

A number of people wondered why the films have been so low on dialogue and big on action compared to the initial "Transformers" story. The answer is in the numbers, as international revenue soared while domestic revenue has bounced around.

Viacom and Paramount aren't going to change this because action sequences appeal to most nationalities. Too much dialogue risks limiting the appeal of a film because it may be construed as more nationalistic. Paramount will release the next film in the franchise, Transformers: Age of Extinction, on June 27, 2014.


To read the full article, please click this link: http://www.dailyfinance.com/2014/01/23/ ... ffice-num/

Unfortunately, news bits like this tend to polarize more than they bring people together. While it could be said it's an opinion and not fact, truth is, there's some weight to the whole "low on dialogue and big on action" portion. For many that's a great thing, for others, that's just not enough to satisfy. Either way, most of the fandom will turn out, possibly several times, to see the film and help the numbers of ticket sales continue growing for the franchise.

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Re: Transformers Film Franchise Partly Responsible For Bigger Box Office Numbers

Postby njb902 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:58 pm

I've got to say when I go to see an action movie I go for the action and one liners.
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Postby Vicalliose » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:49 pm

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Was really hoping people would be tired of the typical Bay formula after 3 and this one might just flop domestically. Sadly he put Dinobots in, so regardless of any lessons learned it will still be a hit.

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njb902 wrote:I've got to say when I go to see an action movie I go for the action and one liners.


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Re: Transformers Film Franchise Partly Responsible For Bigger Box Office Numbers

Postby CommanderHazar » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:40 pm

I hated the first movie, and immediately wrote off ALL potential sequels. Since that clearly includes this movie, the answer is obvious. If a lobotomy is required to be able enjoy the movie, it's clearly not for me.
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Re: Transformers Film Franchise Partly Responsible For Bigger Box Office Numbers

Postby Burn » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:44 pm

CommanderHazar wrote:If a lobotomy is required to be able enjoy the movie, it's clearly not for me.


I'm going to let this one slide but if anyone, and I mean ANYONE, chooses to insult the intelligence levels of those who go to see the movies, you WILL receive a warning.

Didn't like the movies? That's fine, but you don't need to resort to petty insults of those that did, whether they're TF fans or not.

Back to the original thread topic.
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Postby EagleTron » Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:26 pm

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I hope them Bay haters and transformers live action movie haters are taking notes that whatever the movie genre are doing must be good because my boy Mr. Bay and company are making some serious history.
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Postby MINDVVIPE » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:12 pm

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I'll just take my whole comment back. It's just going to start more hate and flaming i'm sure.
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Re: Transformers Film Franchise Partly Responsible For Bigger Box Office Numbers

Postby Autobot032 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:51 pm

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EagleTron wrote:I hope them Bay haters and transformers live action movie haters are taking notes that whatever the movie genre are doing must be good because my boy Mr. Bay and company are making some serious history.


Just as Burn said comments like the lobotomy one aren't gonna fly, neither will posts like your's, Eagle.

This is the one and only warning for statements like this: Do not do this again, and that goes for everyone. Whether or not a person is a fan or a "hater" is really none of your business or anyone else's. That's that person's opinion and they're allowed to have it. They're allowed to voice it (reasonably and with respect) and posts like this make it so they feel like they're not able to share their comments.

This community welcomes people, and will continue to do so. Anything that upsets that feeling is not welcome.

Please, no more comments or posts of this nature.

MINDVVIPE wrote:I'll just take my whole comment back. It's just going to start more hate and flaming i'm sure.


I didn't see it, but thank you. Take MINDVVIPE's cue and do the same. If you think you're about to cross the line, chances are that you are. Take a step back, take a breath and either edit the post or don't post it at all.

I know the movies aren't for everyone, or at the very least they won't agree. That doesn't mean you can be at each other's throats over some flicks. Sorry, but no.
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Postby Megatron Wolf » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:40 pm

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and how many viewers did jersey shore have, just because something makes money & draws people in doesnt mean its good. Just look at call of duty, its the most generic cookie cutter game on the planet but it makes millions every year. Dont get me wrong im all for action movies and the action genre as long as they have substance, expendables & the marvel movies do bayformers does not.
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Postby amtm » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:08 pm

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All the reactions to comments i really didn't find particularly offensive aside, the keenest observations I've seen regarding ticket sales and popular sentiment are 1) People spend the money before they see a movie, so sales aren't a reliable indicator of how good or bad viewers actually found it, and 2) Prices have gone way, way up in the past few years, most notably as a result of upselling with 3d and Imax (not to mention the end of matinee prices for all but actual morning shows), so you can't get an accurate comparison of success just from the nominal values. i'd credit that "hi-tech" upselling with a much bigger role in pushing sales up than the Transformers franchise and the like. Anyway, i won't be paying for any more bayformer films.
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Re: Transformers Film Franchise Partly Responsible For Bigger Box Office Numbers

Postby njb902 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:35 pm

amtm wrote:All the reactions to comments i really didn't find particularly offensive aside, the keenest observations I've seen regarding ticket sales and popular sentiment are 1) People spend the money before they see a movie, so sales aren't a reliable indicator of how good or bad viewers actually found it, and 2) Prices have gone way, way up in the past few years, most notably as a result of upselling with 3d and Imax (not to mention the end of matinee prices for all but actual morning shows), so you can't get an accurate comparison of success just from the nominal values. i'd credit that "hi-tech" upselling with a much bigger role in pushing sales up than the Transformers franchise and the like. Anyway, i won't be paying for any more bayformer films.


You don't have reduced price matinees in your area, that blows. As far as success goes are we talking success for the studio's or the viewer?
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Postby Noideaforaname » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:14 am

Too much dialogue risks limiting the appeal of a film because it may be construed as more nationalistic.

Makes sense, though I wonder if it's not so much "American films are too pro-America" as it is "American films have a lot of American references, figures of speech, etc. that don't really translate well." I'm sure we've all been baffled (or even offended) by some odd element in a foreign work, looked it up on a relevant wiki or asked someone who knows the foreign culture and found out "it really doesn't translate well"
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Postby EagleTron » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:00 am

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I just read that statement. Excuse me on that one, I understand.
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EagleTron wrote:Numbers Never Lie!
If transformers nation was solely in the hands of y'all anti movieverse guys then we would probably still be playing with those three step transformation g1 toys that the legs that don't seperate. :michaelbay:

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Megatron Wolf wrote:and how many viewers did jersey shore have, just because something makes money & draws people in doesnt mean its good. Just look at call of duty, its the most generic cookie cutter game on the planet but it makes millions every year. Dont get me wrong im all for action movies and the action genre as long as they have substance, expendables & the marvel movies do bayformers does not.


The article isn't saying that the movie's are good based on the revenue, but that the gross income of the movies help bring action movies at the top of movie popular movie generes (At least that's what i'm getting out of it). What someone preseves as good is a matter of opinion.

All the reactions to comments i really didn't find particularly offensive aside, the keenest observations I've seen regarding ticket sales and popular sentiment are 1) People spend the money before they see a movie, so sales aren't a reliable indicator of how good or bad viewers actually found it,


I think this is partly true. This can be said for the first movie of a series, but when it comes to sequels, people have a fairly good idea to what there getting themselves into. If one really didn't like the first movie, chances are the second isn't going to be all that enjoyable for them either. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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amtm wrote:All the reactions to comments i really didn't find particularly offensive aside, the keenest observations I've seen regarding ticket sales and popular sentiment are 1) People spend the money before they see a movie, so sales aren't a reliable indicator of how good or bad viewers actually found it, and 2) Prices have gone way, way up in the past few years, most notably as a result of upselling with 3d and Imax (not to mention the end of matinee prices for all but actual morning shows), so you can't get an accurate comparison of success just from the nominal values. i'd credit that "hi-tech" upselling with a much bigger role in pushing sales up than the Transformers franchise and the like. Anyway, i won't be paying for any more bayformer films.


You don't have reduced price matinees in your area, that blows. As far as success goes are we talking success for the studio's or the viewer?

I was referring to the financial success of the movies--the sales figures that article was talking about. Succes for the viewers would be better movies. Another one in the same vein is Pacific Rim. It was fun because it was basically the first live action attempt at giant mecha anime, but overall it's not much better than the Bay films, except ROTF, because that was one of the worst movies of all time. They may make money but they're like diet soda--sweet at first but with a funny aftertaste and empty of any real satisfaction.

Back in the day matinee was weekdays and Saturdays before 5:30 or 6. Then 5. Then 4. Now it's only before noon. And the price is basically what a non-matinee movie used to be. Though the worst was seeing Wolverine in 3d with a friend in NY. Cost me $18. For a frikkin' movie. I felt like i might as well flush my wallet down the toilet.
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Re: Transformers Film Franchise Partly Responsible For Bigger Box Office Numbers

Postby Burn » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:24 am

Not sure about other countries but here in Australia I have a couple of options for cheap tickets.

My old health fund offered $10.50 tickets (full price is $17.50), had to buy a minimum of four, could be used at any time except after 5pm on a Saturday.

My motor vehicle club does the same, but you have to go into one of their offices to buy the tickets (not easy for me)

And then my phone provider does $10 tickets, any time, any day, just have to pre-book the movie.

Either way, if I take a friend, or my sister and nephew, I can save a few dollars.

And I can't remember when they had cheaper matinee prices in this country.
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Postby njb902 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:29 am

Here in Erie the first showing of every movie is $5.50,then it's $6.00 until 6,and $7.50 after that. I don't go to 3d movies anymore so those are the digital price.
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Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:36 am

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This doesn't surprise me. In movies, action is the common international denominator. Comedy doesn't work in every country and every language, nor does drama. Horror and sci-fi fare better, but still, no matter where in the world you live, an explosion is an explosion, car chase is a car chase, and a one-liner is funny, if translated right, because it only applies to that particular scene or character, and isn't dependent on the audience's understanding of the entire story of the movie. So, as long as Bay keeps the bangs and booms coming, the bucks will keep rolling in.
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