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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:04 am

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nycPrime wrote:So is it possible that computron at tj maxx was either a one-off mistake or not true to begin with? I feel like everyone has been searching for it, myself included. You would think by now a few more would've turned up.


I posted before, but it was probably missed being at the bottom of the previous page. The sighting for Computron was in fact real as the pictures were taken right on the TJ Maxx shelves.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby nycPrime » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:00 pm

Emerje wrote:
nycPrime wrote:So is it possible that computron at tj maxx was either a one-off mistake or not true to begin with? I feel like everyone has been searching for it, myself included. You would think by now a few more would've turned up.


I posted before, but it was probably missed being at the bottom of the previous page. The sighting for Computron was in fact real as the pictures were taken right on the TJ Maxx shelves.

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I just find it odd no one else has found it yet. The last few times someone on this forum found something at Marshalls or TJ Maxx (Sky Lynx, G2 sets), others have also found it within a few days. But as others have mentioned, maybe that particular store somehow just got it early (I hope) as opposed to some elaborate hoax.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Prime Nova » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:40 pm

That's the photo I took while in store last Tuesday around 18:30 - but they had a few Dragstrips.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Bumblebee21 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:47 pm

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Prime Nova wrote:That's the photo I took while in store last Tuesday around 18:30 - but they had a few Dragstrips.

so you found computron
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:49 pm

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Prime Nova wrote:That's the photo I took while in store last Tuesday around 18:30 - but they had a few Dragstrips.

so you found computron

He might be referring to the news about the combiner wars dragstrip found in UK.
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Postby Bumblebee21 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:51 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Bumblebee21 wrote:
Prime Nova wrote:That's the photo I took while in store last Tuesday around 18:30 - but they had a few Dragstrips.

so you found computron

He might be referring to the news about the combiner wars dragstrip found in UK.

true that is another possibility
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Prime Nova » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:54 am

It's the photo of Dragstrip I took the other day but some more photos have been added since.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Blackfreeze » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:58 am

There are a couple people at the Allspark boards claiming to have found Computron, but one guy is saying he opened the box only to find a Menasor set inside. The other guy is saying his was legit. That's 3 different locations.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Blackfreeze » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:43 am

Found this on Facebook. A guy in our TF group found Computron at TJMaxx in Texas.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Regimus Prime » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:35 am

Visited my local TJ Max here in Encinitas and Oceanside CA and found the same old CW voyagers that they've been carrying, Motormaster, Scattershot and Onslaught, oh and one white OP. Lucked out at the local Carlsbad Marshalls and they had plenty of the aforementioned along with three G2 Superion gift sets. I already own the single carded Aerialbots along with Quickslinger/Slingshot and wasn't in any rush to pick up this G2 deco, but at $39.99, I could not pass that price up. :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RAR » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:19 am

Might be nice if they slid some of those Boxed sets in the Uk store TK Maxx's direction too.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:23 am

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I just wish they'd done CW Computron as individual 'bots rather than/as well as a boxset. I'd buy Hasbro Strafe, Nosecone and Scrounge on their own (in Strafe and Nosecone's cases for customizing into new characters) but the rest have no appeal to me whatsoever, especially compared to their UW counterparts.

Having done some research and comparisons, I thought I'd post my feelings on the Technobots and Computron as a whole (purely from what I've seen of them of course).

Scattershot: Hasbro's detailing on the vehicle nose/cannon shroud is cool but Takara's extra molded parts makes the UW release a win for me.

Afterburner: I actually prefer the colours on the Hasbro offering. The orange is pretty nice and the green canopy is cool. That said, the extra guns for UW Afterburner definitely elevates him a bit. A draw really.

Nosecone: Hasbro's offering has nice colours, and I actually don't hate the drill tank mode. That said, the extra mile Takara went with the UW release (including that awesome drill) makes me have to say the UW release wins here.

Strafe: Possibly the closest run. Hasbro has a really cool space jet mode, which reminds me of a retro space shooter ship. However the weird off-white and the total lack of handheld weapons is a bummer. Takara on the other hand has a nicer white, more playability and actual weapons. The space jet mode takes some getting used to, but overall I like it. Honestly though if it weren't for the lack of weapons and the colour they used I'd say this was a straight-up draw. As it is I think Takara edges out slightly.

Lightspeed: Yeah, no contest. Takara wins by a landslide.

Scrounge: Hasbro wins by virtue of him not being in the UW set. A cool little extra but I'd rather he'd been a standalone release.

Combined mode: Hasbro has some fairly nice colours I will admit, and overall he looks pretty nice, but the decision to just use the Superion head, chest and gun really lets it down IMO. The hands and feet IMO aren't the best either- the feet are hollow (which isn't good for stability) and have no forwards/backwards motion, whilst the hands are just lumps with holes in them. The UW release is maybe a smidgen monochromatic but it does still look good, with the chest "lights" helping to break up the sea of red, and the new parts helping differentiate between him and Superion. The HFGs suck as feet for sure, though as hands they're OK. Overall I have to give it to Takara, almost entirely based on the torso if I'm honest.

Also, DRILL HAND WOOOOOOO.


Overall I think I'm gonna try and get UW Computron + the PE hands and feet for Christmas. I've dropped enough hints, so hopefully the Calculating Colossus will be mine!
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:14 am

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After having read the final OMAM prose story from the Club, that story made me want Hasbro's CW Computron more than ever, in addition to my still wanting Takara's UW Computron. I was originally going to distinguish the two by either using the UW version as the real Computron and the CW version as Betatron, or go the route of Takara's GT System from the Binaltech fiction and make the Hasbro version be "Computron GT"... but now I'm set to instead consider the Takara version as G1 Cartoon Computron circa 2021, and the Hasbro version as OMAM universe (which is based on Marvel G1) Computron.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:54 am

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Sabrblade wrote:After having read the final OMAM prose story from the Club, that story made me want Hasbro's CW Computron more than ever, in addition to my still wanting Takara's UW Computron. I was originally going to distinguish the two by either using the UW version as the real Computron and the CW version as Betatron, or go the route of Takara's GT System from the Binaltech fiction and make the Hasbro version be "Computron GT"... but now I'm set to instead consider the Takara version as G1 Cartoon Computron circa 2021, and the Hasbro version as OMAM universe (which is based on Marvel G1) Computron.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:07 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:After having read the final OMAM prose story from the Club, that story made me want Hasbro's CW Computron more than ever, in addition to my still wanting Takara's UW Computron. I was originally going to distinguish the two by either using the UW version as the real Computron and the CW version as Betatron, or go the route of Takara's GT System from the Binaltech fiction and make the Hasbro version be "Computron GT"... but now I'm set to instead consider the Takara version as G1 Cartoon Computron circa 2021, and the Hasbro version as OMAM universe (which is based on Marvel G1) Computron.

Care to share why? I'm curious
The story established Cybaxx as a renamed Boltax from Marvel G1, and had him imbued with the power and knowledge of the Underbase, which through his link with Scrounge (repurposed by this story as a Mini-Con) could augment Computron's own power and knowledge, which sound to me like some kind of super duper enhanced version of Computron what with him being the knowledge-based combiner and all.

And with the use of Hasbro CW figures representing the combiner characters of the OMAM continuity, along with allusions to discarded proposals for the Hasbro CW toyline (Ironclad, Firestormer, etc.), it is evident that the Hasbro CW Computron was the specific version in mind for the OMAM version of Computron.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:57 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:After having read the final OMAM prose story from the Club, that story made me want Hasbro's CW Computron more than ever, in addition to my still wanting Takara's UW Computron. I was originally going to distinguish the two by either using the UW version as the real Computron and the CW version as Betatron, or go the route of Takara's GT System from the Binaltech fiction and make the Hasbro version be "Computron GT"... but now I'm set to instead consider the Takara version as G1 Cartoon Computron circa 2021, and the Hasbro version as OMAM universe (which is based on Marvel G1) Computron.

Care to share why? I'm curious
The story established Cybaxx as a renamed Boltax from Marvel G1, and had him imbued with the power and knowledge of the Underbase, which through his link with Scrounge (repurposed by this story as a Mini-Con) could augment Computron's own power and knowledge, which sound to me like some kind of super duper enhanced version of Computron what with him being the knowledge-based combiner and all.

And with the use of Hasbro CW figures representing the combiner characters of the OMAM continuity, along with allusions to discarded proposals for the Hasbro CW toyline (Ironclad, Firestormer, etc.), it is evident that the Hasbro CW Computron was the specific version in mind for the OMAM version of Computron.

Oh, that's what you meant. I thought you were talking about something else. This is something I had shared previously and it was something that I had really liked, so we're on the same page
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:15 pm

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Admittedly when I read that in OMAM - as well as the other explanations for Hasbro's combiners - it read to me more like excuses for the inaccuracies rather than any good explanation, as if they were ordered by Hasbro to come up with something. I know they weren't (well, as far as I know) but it doesn't encourage me to accept CW Computron as much as, say, Starscream wearing his Armada body in IDW.
I did like the whole Cybaxx thing though, that's something that worked for me.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RAR » Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:50 pm

Moved my reply to a comment about Combiner Wars Rodimus from the Titans Returns thread :
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The Alternator/Binaltech Rodimus lacks the exhaust pipes too - as does the new 'The Last Knight' Version.

But had it not already have been mentioned I'd have pointed out that Rodimus Looks a little bit like the Micromaster version.

Also What I tend to do with Legions is look at them two ways - they can all be lumped together regardless of scale - I.e. Optimus & Huffer

Or you can look on the larger characters like Starscream, Megatron and Optimus as some sort of Commander class for legions.

Then the more typically smaller characters like Pipes, Cosmos, Tailgate or Bumblebee function as small version in comparison to a typical deluxe.

Rodimus can be either you can pretend he's Hotrod and is kinda small or Rodimus and pretend he's bigger.

But yes having a car mode does make him an odd one scale wise - I usually just put him with any other legion car as there are quite a few of them.

Besides it's just fun to make him have an axe fight with one of his repaints.

If the scale is the only issue though there is the option of the scout class size KO too. he's only a little smaller than a Combiner Wars Deluxe.

There is also the suggestion that the size of the normal one works pretty well with the KO Megatron, Nemesis, Starscream and Optimus too.

But otherwise he's just fine to use as a chest plate.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:21 pm

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I tend to just have a separate Legends class display, much like people would have separate CHUG and Masterpiece displays for the same characters. Just a different scale of collecting and displaying.
The only real problem with that is that while it's great for cons - they've basically got all the Season 1 guys but Soundwave and Devvy; and even then depending on your scale you could argue Constructicon Maximus or even CW/UW Devvy is in scale with Legends - the Autobots are... less well off. You've got Optimus, Rodimus and maybe Bumblebee since he's sometimes bigger; but beyond that it's mostly guys that are usually small anyway - Cosmos, Windcharger, Warpath, Rewind, Wheelie etc etc.
So unless you go down the road of collecting the Universe Legions - which could work despite the different scale for things like Jazz being slightly smaller than Optimus - then it's difficult to get together an Autobot display of the current Legends scale. So Rodimus helps with that immensely.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:42 pm

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The latest Beast Wars: Uprising story (or rather, the story's "secret-coded-extra-story-hidden-within-the-main-story") also gave another take on Cybaxx. Instead of him being Boltax like in OMAM, this version of him is a Nebulon affiliated with the World Watcher alliance, and who later became a Targetmaster for the Autobots (whom he was partnered with, if anyone in particular, was not stated).
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Rysquad » Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:52 pm

RAR wrote:Moved my reply to a comment about Combiner Wars Rodimus from the Titans Returns thread :
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To here.
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The Alternator/Binaltech Rodimus lacks the exhaust pipes too - as does the new 'The Last Knight' Version.

But had it not already have been mentioned I'd have pointed out that Rodimus Looks a little bit like the Micromaster version.

Also What I tend to do with Legions is look at them two ways - they can all be lumped together regardless of scale - I.e. Optimus & Huffer

Or you can look on the larger characters like Starscream, Megatron and Optimus as some sort of Commander class for legions.

Then the more typically smaller characters like Pipes, Cosmos, Tailgate or Bumblebee function as small version in comparison to a typical deluxe.

Rodimus can be either you can pretend he's Hotrod and is kinda small or Rodimus and pretend he's bigger.

But yes having a car mode does make him an odd one scale wise - I usually just put him with any other legion car as there are quite a few of them.

Besides it's just fun to make him have an axe fight with one of his repaints.

If the scale is the only issue though there is the option of the scout class size KO too. he's only a little smaller than a Combiner Wars Deluxe.

There is also the suggestion that the size of the normal one works pretty well with the KO Megatron, Nemesis, Starscream and Optimus too.

But otherwise he's just fine to use as a chest plate.


I recently purchased G2 Menasor and I don't like including Blackjack with the rest of the cars due to scale. :(
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Rysquad » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:04 pm

I would love to see 2001 RID get a Combiner Wars/Titans Return homage:

Ultra Magnus from the Voyager Optimus Prime mold (redeco with shades of blue) that can tow a car carrier that also transforms into a Titan Master base.

Prowl from the Breakdown mold instead of the Dead End mold.

Side Burn from the Breakdown mold.

X-Brawn from the Offroad mold.

Maybe Skid-Z from the Dragstrip mold.

Art Fire and R.E.V. as Titan Masters with the Terri-Bull/Skytread/Tankette drone to mimic Ultra Magnus' cannons.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:05 pm

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Rysquad wrote:I recently purchased G2 Menasor and I don't like including Blackjack with the rest of the cars due to scale. :(


Blackjack is supposedly still a Micromaster, so naturally he ends up being smaller than the rest. Plus, being inspired by G1 Motormaster's Roller Car drone helps:

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:29 am

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