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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby AutobotAlvaron » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:25 pm

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I'm a big fan of Ultra Magnus & I do like this, but it seems a little off to me. I think that the "butt-flap" is supposed to represent the back of his "shirt-tail", but it looks silly. In looking at my G1 Magnus trailer, I see a lot of sculpted detail that would have transferred nicely to an MP; this seems too plain. I know that cartoon-accuracy rules in the MP world, but a synthesis with toy details (like MP Wheeljack's car stripes) would have helped. All-in-all, I like it, I'll probably get it, and I'll only regret its cost.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:26 pm

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UM is Smiling :lol:

Btw, only way you can truly critique the fig is once you get a hold of him this January 2015. All these talk of lack of details, butt flap..........I get it, I'm also impatient as the rest of us for his release, but as I recall, never heard until Kanrabat complained about MP-11 having the Blitzwing shoulder syndrome. And the latter was hailed as the next best thing as sliced bread. Now, that flaw should have been mentioned by a lot of those "reviewers"

If UM is coming with design flaws, let's critique it but if only for some cosmetic issues.....I don't think the flap is such a big deal. It's the "designer's" and the toyline's theme in the first place.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby s1ck3nd » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:49 pm

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s1ck3nd wrote:Why does he seem sooooooooo.....awkward?? That stance alone makes U.M look very limited in pose ability. :-?
That right shoulder hinge tho! #-o

It's a prototype (likely made of resin), those things always have loose joints and are very fragile. The person who displayed it did the mistake of trying to put it in a dynamic pose, which the prototype can't handle.

Damn, that latest pic =P~



I hope you're right... That pict under it looks x's better than the constipated pose. :APPLAUSE:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Dead Metal » Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:11 am

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s1ck3nd wrote:Why does he seem sooooooooo.....awkward?? That stance alone makes U.M look very limited in pose ability. :-?
That right shoulder hinge tho! #-o

It's a prototype (likely made of resin), those things always have loose joints and are very fragile. The person who displayed it did the mistake of trying to put it in a dynamic pose, which the prototype can't handle.

Damn, that latest pic =P~



I hope you're right... That pict under it looks x's better than the constipated pose. :APPLAUSE:

Trust me it is, this happens every time we see prototypes displayed. They all look great in magazines, but displayed they look terrible in the flesh when put in dynamic or action poses. The displayed protos can also not transform because they are often glued together so that they don't fall apart. You can even still see the resin texture and the brush strokes in these newer pics.

We always complain about how terrible they look on display, and then forget about it once we see the final production version in its plastic glory.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:48 am

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First official colored stock photo images of the figure in both modes - http://e-hobby.co.jp/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=000000002737

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Yes, that red bumper is show-accurate.


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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Diem » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:35 am

Thanks to e-Hobby Shop and the eagle eyes of Seibertron member Sabrblade we have the first color stock images of MP-22 Ultra Magnus. As always, the colors of the final product may vary.

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Perhaps the only surprise is the red bumper on the vehicle mode, though as Sabrblade pointed out on the forums that is cartoon accurate if not toy accurate.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Diem » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:45 am

Sabrblade wrote:First official colored stock photo images of the figure in both modes - PHOTORS

Yes, that red bumper is show-accurate.


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Wow Sabrblade, that is genuinely some good screenshottery and pre-empting of the usual complaints!

The silver stripes and the red bumper on the cab make this a very weird hybrid of toy and cartoon incarnations. On the plus side, it breaks up the colors in a nice way.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby It Is Him » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:46 am

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Seibertron » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:55 am

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Diem wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:First official colored stock photo images of the figure in both modes - PHOTORS

Yes, that red bumper is show-accurate.


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Wow Sabrblade, that is genuinely some good screenshottery and pre-empting of the usual complaints!

The silver stripes and the red bumper on the cab make this a very weird hybrid of toy and cartoon incarnations. On the plus side, it breaks up the colors in a nice way.


And yet, here we go ...

If Hasbro releases Ultra Magnus (which I'm hoping they will announced at BotCon), then here's hoping for a toy accurate version. I'm not a fan of the red bumper. I get being "cartoon accurate" but sometimes it just doesn't translate well into a toy.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:12 am

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I'm down with that.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Yotsuyasan » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:16 am

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Meh... I could get used to a red bumper. But I, too, will not be upset if the (hopefully forthcoming) U.S. version has a more toy accurate colour scheme.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby BERSEKAEL » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:25 am

As long as hasbro doesnt add flames, I will buy one, looks very nice, makes me wish arcee a nd springer next to him.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Torneira » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:32 am

Maby the red bumper is detachable and there is a chrome bumper included?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sideshow Sideswipe » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:38 am

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I'm hopeful, but I don't see hasbro releasing a toy of this size. There's no size class that it would fit into.This will end up costing as much as 3 or 4 large MP figures. But I didn't think they would release prowl stateside either, so I hope I'm wrong, but my preorder is staying locked in bbts.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby G1COLLECTOR » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:38 am

I don't care if the red bumper is cartoon accurate , it looks like total crap and will be repainted into silver if I get him.
Looks like something a knock off company would do. LOL :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:47 am

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Sideshow Sideswipe wrote:I'm hopeful, but I don't see hasbro releasing a toy of this size. There's no size class that it would fit into.This will end up costing as much as 3 or 4 large MP figures. But I didn't think they would release prowl stateside either, so I hope I'm wrong, but my preorder is staying locked in bbts.
There is no size class that any of the other MPs or even the Platinum Editions that Hasbro has released fit into either. Yet that didn't stop them from releasing those.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby happylock » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:50 am

Wow the color images show this may be the easiest master piece to transform yet.

The top rack splits into the arms. The bottom bed becomes the legs and chest and it all folds around the cab. And the head probably pops out of the cab. I don't remember a masterpiece that's transformation was that easy to describe.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sideshow Sideswipe » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:07 am

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happylock wrote:Wow the color images show this may be the easiest master piece to transform yet.

The top rack splits into the arms. The bottom bed becomes the legs and chest and it all folds around the cab. And the head probably pops out of the cab. I don't remember a masterpiece that's transformation was that easy to describe.


I'm okay with it being easy when it's so beautiful and detailed, I'm very curious about the cab though is it just to house the head?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:08 am

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happylock wrote:Wow the color images show this may be the easiest master piece to transform yet.

The top rack splits into the arms. The bottom bed becomes the legs and chest and it all folds around the cab. And the head probably pops out of the cab. I don't remember a masterpiece that's transformation was that easy to describe.


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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:12 am

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happylock wrote:Wow the color images show this may be the easiest master piece to transform yet.

The top rack splits into the arms. The bottom bed becomes the legs and chest and it all folds around the cab. And the head probably pops out of the cab. I don't remember a masterpiece that's transformation was that easy to describe.


I'm okay with it being easy when it's so beautiful and detailed, I'm very curious about the cab though is it just to house the head?
It looks to me like the cab turns completely inside-out, as the cab's roof becomes the robot's butt flap hanging down from the backside of the waist.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby massprime » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:04 am

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby massprime » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:34 am

I agree he should have been made to look a little trimmer and he wouldn't look shorter than he actually is. I love the headsculpt. But I'll only get him if he shows up stateside naturally cheaper. I'm guessing maybe next summer or as a TRU Xmas 2015 holiday release. For now it's the 2nd run Stack with the issues corrected. Same price and doesn't look like a miniture cosplay.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Breakdown318 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:40 am

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I'm with the silver bumper idea. That red bumper, while show accurate, is awful! Bad idea if you ask me. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Rated X » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:48 am

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Diem wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:First official colored stock photo images of the figure in both modes - PHOTORS

Yes, that red bumper is show-accurate.


SCREENSHORTS


Wow Sabrblade, that is genuinely some good screenshottery and pre-empting of the usual complaints!

The silver stripes and the red bumper on the cab make this a very weird hybrid of toy and cartoon incarnations. On the plus side, it breaks up the colors in a nice way.

Im usually all for cartoon accuracy, but tnis is one of those rare instances where it looks like ****. Rather see some nice chrome. Todays a good day not to be an MP collector.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Blasphemous Prime » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:56 am

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The only thing I find that is not accurate is the lower legs with the red. in the show, his lower legs were mainly blue, with the white panels in front. The show however wasn't always consistent from on minute to the next. I'm just going to chalk this up as a nice blend between the toy and the animation model. He looks AWESOME! :BOWDOWN:

As far as the red bumper goes, it is cartoon accurate:
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