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News Credits: 148 · by **Big Grim** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:07 am

Seibertron wrote:Kudos to Grapple. Amazing how much better his legs look with just a little more detailing instead of the plain panels on Inferno's lower legs and feet.

I wholeheartedly agree Seibs. The legs looks tons better with detailing on Grapple's legs.

by **WeatherManNX01** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:44 am

Big Grim wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Kudos to Grapple. Amazing how much better his legs look with just a little more detailing instead of the plain panels on Inferno's lower legs and feet.

I wholeheartedly agree Seibs. The legs looks tons better with detailing on Grapple's legs.

Completely agree. I know everyone has a slightly different take on what the Masterpiece series means to them, but to me, Masterpiece wasn't just making a high-quality representation of the characters; it was about bringing them to life in a way that mass-retail toys just can't, including the addition of details that weren't there in the cartoon or on the original toys but make them "pop" and feel more real.

With Inferno and Grapple on the way, my mind turns to the next figures. Surely Hoist and Trailbreaker have to be coming in the next year or so, right? One retools into the other with plenty of possibilities for Diaclone recolors.

News Credits: 148 · by **Big Grim** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:48 am

WeatherManNX01 wrote:Surely Hoist and Trailbreaker have to be coming in the next year or so, right? One retools into the other with plenty of possibilities for Diaclone recolors.

I imagine so, since at least two third party companies are working on that pair.

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:56 am

Jazz and Stepper would be two others that come to mind that are immediately needed so that a potential Artfire could have his buddy. And then if they get around to Cyclonus and Scourge, you've already got their Targetmaster weapons (or vice versa).

News Credits: 148 · by **Big Grim** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:44 am

I would kill for Masterpiece Jazz, Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge. Preferably with Targetmaster partners for the latter two.

News Credits: 5 · by **Collectotron** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:00 am

This looks good to bad I don't collect masterpieces probably to expensive anyway :BOOM:

by **frogbat** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:06 pm

I have a real soft spot for grapple.. Cranes were my first love as a kid before transformers came out and when there was an orange crane transformer in the local toy store... He was probably the single one tf I bugged my parents the most to get (not that I didn't bug them for all the others )

Now he's the mp I'm looking forward the most to!

I have my original g1 toy and an encore. Found the generations edition a bit lacking. I wouldn't be surprised if hasbro releases a new generations version of grapple and inferno... They seem to have changed their design philosophy and are homaging the original toys more...

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:21 pm

So much appreciation for these handful of embossed rectangles, big deal. :lol:

Nah, but seriously I think that they both look great. Grapple has them and Inferno doesn't because of their character models. I appreciate these little touches and small differences between them besides the obvious crane/ladder and deco.

Hey, how come no one mentioned Megatron in their wishlist here? :-?

I still think this is pretty amazing:

No other Grapple figure has this feature. It paid off to omit the crane from his robot mode 30 something years ago.

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:40 pm

Cyberpath wrote:I still think this is pretty amazing:

Someone should photoshop him looking at a Playboy centerfold.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:53 pm

Seibertron wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:I still think this is pretty amazing:

Someone should photoshop him looking at a Playboy centerfold.

Or a 'Victorion's Secret' catalog :-P

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:04 pm

I really liked Inferno, but I looove Grapple. Or, Hauler in my head

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:10 pm

Whew, money saving opportunity for me. I think he looks pretty great and the accessories are amazing, but I really only need one version of this mold.

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:34 pm

Man, thus is one mold where Takara really failed to outdo the 3Rd party version. MMC's version is just so much more detailed. Its like all of Takara's effort went to the "ladder magic" I might still get this version just so I can have an Inferno and a Grapple in different molds. :-?

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumblevivisector** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:34 pm

I wasn't too excited about Inferno for some reason, but 'The Master Builders' just happens to be the ep I saw more than any other (was it always shown on Fridays? My mom was trying to ration my TV intake during 1st grade, so I could only watch TF if I passed my Friday spelling test), therefore this blew me away more than any other MP we all saw coming should have. I'm so far behind on MPs that I didn't think he'd be a top priority, but he suddenly is.

'Auto Berzerk', on the other hand, was one I never saw until Generation 2, after I'd read most of the US comic...so he'll have the orange helmet on 99% of the time in my collection. He'll mostly don the black helmet if called on to build Marvel Omega Supreme...whose MP and/or Titan toy is at least 2 years down the road.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:14 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:Man, thus is one mold where Takara really failed to outdo the 3Rd party version. MMC's version is just so much more detailed. Its like all of Takara's effort went to the "ladder magic" I might still get this version just so I can have an Inferno and a Grapple in different molds.

Why were you expecting detail with TT's new 'no detail, smooth panels only' design direction for the MP line /:)

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:06 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Man, thus is one mold where Takara really failed to outdo the 3Rd party version. MMC's version is just so much more detailed. Its like all of Takara's effort went to the "ladder magic" I might still get this version just so I can have an Inferno and a Grapple in different molds.

Why were you expecting detail with TT's new 'no detail, smooth panels only' design direction for the MP line

I don't expect that either because they haven't consistently done that yet. Way too many examples of them not doing this, in particular with the licensed vehicle based Masterpiece figures.

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumblevivisector** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:35 pm

Seibertron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Man, thus is one mold where Takara really failed to outdo the 3Rd party version. MMC's version is just so much more detailed. Its like all of Takara's effort went to the "ladder magic" I might still get this version just so I can have an Inferno and a Grapple in different molds.

Why were you expecting detail with TT's new 'no detail, smooth panels only' design direction for the MP line

I don't expect that either because they haven't consistently done that yet. Way too many examples of them not doing this, in particular with the licensed vehicle based Masterpiece figures.

And if the point of the MP line is show-accuracy, making up extra details that weren't there defeats the purpose.

I'll take these official extra gadgets over a slightly gaudier sculpt any day. Finally, a toy with an official "generic Sunbow overhead claw", used to grab rocks by Seekers, Cobra, and Robotix (and others currently slipping my mind) when not attached to Grapple! Heck, once I've got the real deal, I'd be tempted to stock up on KOs just to get more of that claw, so my MP jets can grab that meteorite from "War of the Dinobots". (my foil ball)

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:16 am

Seibertron wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:I still think this is pretty amazing:

Someone should photoshop him looking at a Playboy centerfold.

Remember the Futurama episode of Bender looking at a "blue print" like it was a porn mag? :lol:

News Credits: 148 · by **Big Grim** » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:55 am

Cyberpath wrote:Hey, how come no one mentioned Megatron in their wishlist here?

I admit in my case, this is because Maketoys version looks perfect to me. I'm tired of waiting for TakaraTomy to get their finger out.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Or a 'Victorion's Secret' catalog

Winner!

by **Powermaster Swag** » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:21 am

Someone should get this and see how he scales with CW Constructicons! :-?

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:54 am

Powermaster Swag wrote:Someone should get this and see how he scales with CW Constructicons!

Probably a lot like this.

News Credits: 148 · by **Big Grim** » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:17 am

Cyberpath wrote:Probably a lot like this.

Well, damn.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:48 am

Cyberpath wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:Someone should get this and see how he scales with CW Constructicons!

Probably a lot like this.

I just realized that Hauler in that pic is drawn like Grapple's altmode's cartoon model but with Hauler's cartoon cab (and obviously colored in his toy deco), so if Takara were to ever do a MP Roadhauler, this could give us an idea of how they'd do it (retooled cartoon-accurate cab w/ green toy deco).

by **Powermaster Swag** » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:59 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:Someone should get this and see how he scales with CW Constructicons!

Probably a lot like this.

I just realized that Hauler in that pic is drawn like Grapple's altmode's cartoon model but with Hauler's cartoon cab (and obviously colored in his toy deco), so if Takara were to ever do a MP Roadhauler, this could give us an idea of how they'd do it (retooled cartoon-accurate cab w/ green toy deco).

Oh! Is that Hauler? I thought there were two Hooks in that picture! What is that picture from?

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:24 am

Powermaster Swag wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:Someone should get this and see how he scales with CW Constructicons!

Probably a lot like this.

I just realized that Hauler in that pic is drawn like Grapple's altmode's cartoon model but with Hauler's cartoon cab (and obviously colored in his toy deco), so if Takara were to ever do a MP Roadhauler, this could give us an idea of how they'd do it (retooled cartoon-accurate cab w/ green toy deco).

Oh! Is that Hauler? I thought there were two Hooks in that picture! What is that picture from?

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