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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:39 pm
by southpawdragon
I do so your point there Ravage. I myself didnt go off in saying fu fu... i just mention its my right as a wronged consumer to not buy there again and let my friends know I was offered poor service. So I hope people do voice their opinion but hold off on the fu fu ..bit.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:40 pm
by Bruticusfan7
I love the fact that masterpiece optimus prime isn't even in the top 20 best selling toys anymore :BOOM: :twisted:

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:47 pm
by robotmel
>:oP
Thanks for supporting Brits!

I will have to take pleasure even more so now in my £25 MP Lambor and £42 Thundercracker and be done with it!

Stiff upper lip and all that! What, what! ;)

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:47 pm
by southpawdragon
I just hope the people who havent yet and will leeave a negative response in the amazone..do a leave negative reviews about getting poor service.. dont go on an fu fu rant.. so we can still maybe get a decent price on this and still vocalize the dissapointment that amazon didnt honor their price to the ones who already ordered.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:53 pm
by Stumpybot
unlike the prevailing logic im seeing here, i wish people would stop abusing the review system like children.

£35 wouldve been an amazing price to get a f***ing masterpiece for, but its not a decent price, its an insane steal of a price. It was an error, so they cancelled everything. you think they should lose £65 off the RRP on every figure just because somebody made a mistake? thats greedy, entitled bulls**t.

A ridiculous number of fans need to grow the f*** up

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:02 pm
by robotmel
Stumpybot wrote:unlike the prevailing logic im seeing here, i wish people would stop abusing the review system like children.

£35 wouldve been an amazing price to get a f***ing masterpiece for, but its not a decent price, its an insane steal of a price. It was an error, so they cancelled everything. you think they should lose £65 off the RRP on every figure just because somebody made a mistake? thats greedy, entitled bulls**t.

A ridiculous number of fans need to grow the f*** up

:lol:
Im calm now dear, think you ought to do the same unless youve orded one too? >:oP

Not sure where you got the extra £65 from, but anyhoo...

I will now take solace in opening a couple of MISB whilst opening a tinny! :lol:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:23 pm
by Dyn@mo
Quelle surprise.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:20 pm
by Mindmaster
For those who are flaming on Amazon UK... how childish can you be?

Like, seriously? You're going to write bad reviews just because they made a mistake pricing it? Honestly, I don't know what I hate more: whiny, undisciplined cadets in my NJROTC unit, or whiny Transformers fans who flame on crap just because someone made a mistake/something didn't go their way. I was about to lose it reading all the hate posts when the mistake was discovered. It's human nature to make mistakes: don't point out a speck of dirt in someone's eye when there's just as much dirt in yours.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:32 pm
by Stumpybot
robotmel wrote:
Stumpybot wrote:unlike the prevailing logic im seeing here, i wish people would stop abusing the review system like children.

£35 wouldve been an amazing price to get a f***ing masterpiece for, but its not a decent price, its an insane steal of a price. It was an error, so they cancelled everything. you think they should lose £65 off the RRP on every figure just because somebody made a mistake? thats greedy, entitled bulls**t.

A ridiculous number of fans need to grow the f*** up

:lol:
Im calm now dear, think you ought to do the same unless youve orded one too? >:oP

Not sure where you got the extra £65 from, but anyhoo...

I will now take solace in opening a couple of MISB whilst opening a tinny! :lol:
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Actually, i ordered several. Wanted a few cases for trade and resale in a few years, and like everybody else ive lost out. but im not THAT bothered, I just find it disgusting the childish responses ive seen. We're still gonna get the toy, just not at the bargain price, its ridiculous.

and the £65 was from board members on Full Metal Hero, theyve spoken to amazon and several reports indicate that the RRP is £99 (hence the £65)

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:51 pm
by Dean ML
I understand the frustration and outrage. This is like the Optimus I've dreamed of since I was seven years old, but as a teacher with a wife and two kids, I can't justify spending over $100 for a collectible toy. Jetwing OP was 50% off, but only for like two days and now the price is back up around $100. "Too-good-to-be-true" price for a very limited time (and thankfully for me it was Christmas time!). Amazon's in their right to do whatever they want, but the right thing would've been to honor their listed price and just go ahead and jack it up for the remainder of its sale.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:55 pm
by Mindmaster
robotmel wrote:I will now take solace in opening a couple of MISB whilst opening a tinny! :lol:
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I'll take that Perceptor you have at the bottom right! 8-}

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:18 am
by -Kanrabat-
>Fifty bucks? I ordered mine!
>I ordered another!
>I Ordered ten!
>I made several accounts and bought them AAAAALLLLLLL!!!!!



So, the scalper's dreams have been crushed.
Buahahahaha! Called it!

I just hope that the correct price will not be too much above 100$ and the ones that dont have his/her own MP-10 yet will be able to order it.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:21 am
by southpawdragon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/pdp/profile/ ... _cr_pr_pdp
Jin saotome i dont care how great custom figures you make. This was a jerk move. You mean you never go out and bargain hunt. Good luck on selling your custom figures. If this was your own creator own business .little guy trying to make a business.indie band I can sorta see where you are coming from. But after being wronged by TRU to sell tf masterpiece at a rare quantity and slowly jacking up of what remains. And ebay prices going like crazy.Tf fans deserve some good luck to fall in their favor once in a while. It only appeared here in canada one time and small quantity and never appeared again.

If you cant see the link I posted basically jin proudly boast it was he who corrected amazon of the price.

So jin is basically saying that if goes to a car dealership and finds a car at a great price he would go out of his way to convince the dealer to raise the price. Hope you do this when you buy a house too.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:37 am
by -Kanrabat-
southpawdragon wrote:It only appeared here in canada one time and small quantity and never appeared again.


I dont give a flying fawk about your hate on this guy and you should have known that "luck" was no luck at all and it was just an matter of time before an Amazon executive noticed something was wrong.

Also, see my location? Yeah, I'm from Québec. TrU dont want to sell anything that have no French on the box here, even online. No GDO, no exclusives of any kinds, especially no MP at all. I had to get mine by having it middlemanned from the USA by a nice Seibertronian. Even then, I had to pay 30$ more in custom fees and almost 50$ of shipping on top of the original 110$ cost.

If you are not from Québec, it's just too bad you lost your changce to get it for "cheap". I guess you'll have no choices but to rely on Ebay.

EDIT:
Oh, I just noticed that you hate The Jin. So, just go back trolling /toy/'s BST. Ask for MP-10 at "bro prices". It wont do much because you'll just be shouting along the mob.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:51 am
by southpawdragon
Well kenrabat i dont care if you dont care what i think. If jin saotome likes to get the credit for changing the price and posting it in amazon.uk i'm giving him credit. Call him a hero if you want.

And yes kenrabat ..its the jin. What of it ..is it because its him. I cant post that its him who is proudly posting on amazon.co.uk patting himself on the back. I dont care if he's judd nelson. Hotrod himself. Unless your directly affected by price because its your business. Its a jerk move to go all corporate. I put less blame on amazon for cancelling the figure and most likely not giving any discounts to those that preodered it beforehand.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:29 am
by -Kanrabat-
southpawdragon wrote:Well kenrabat i dont care if you dont care what i think. If jin saotome likes to get the credit for changing the price and posting it in amazon.uk i'm giving him credit. Call him a hero if you want.

And yes kenrabat ..its the jin. What of it ..is it because its him. I cant post that its him who is proudly posting on amazon.co.uk patting himself on the back. I dont care if he's judd nelson. Hotrod himself. Unless your directly affected by price because its your business. Its a jerk move to go all corporate. I put less blame on amazon for cancelling the figure and most likely not giving any discounts to those that preodered it beforehand.


First, as a company, you dont want to lose millions. Imagine a car dealer listing the new hot car at 5000$ instead of 50000$ and you can bet your ass the dealer will cancel all those pre-orders. I just wonder WHY the hell some citizens had to call Amazon on their mistake instead of noticing it themselves.

Second, I looked deeper into that Jin incident.
Wow.
Jin confirmed for master troll.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:58 am
by southpawdragon
And even if jin saotome's post in amazon.co.uk is a fake that he never did contacted and corrected amazon. He is basically saying he's too good to even order one because its a great deal and making fun of those who lost out. By blatantly taunting in the official amazon.co.uk he's acting so noble so self righteous. Paying scalper prices to him are nothing to him..and rarity doesnt mean anything because he's got connections. Those who ordered from amazon we didnt steal anything we didnt set the price. Mistake or not it is in poor taste to cancel order on those who ordered and not even get some discount by the company who is selling it.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:35 am
by -Kanrabat-
southpawdragon wrote:And even if jin saotome's post in amazon.co.uk is a fake that he never did contacted and corrected amazon. He is basically saying he's too good to even order one because its a great deal and making fun of those who lost out. By blatantly taunting in the official amazon.co.uk he's acting so noble so self righteous. Paying scalper prices to him are nothing to him..and rarity doesnt mean anything because he's got connections. Those who ordered from amazon we didnt steal anything we didnt set the price. Mistake or not it is in poor taste to cancel order on those who ordered and not even get some discount by the company who is selling it.


Jin trolling aside, I dont agree on any discount. A mistake is a mistake and noting was paid and shipped yet.

HOWEVER,
One thing I would do in Amazon's shoe is to make sure everyone who have pre-ordered any MP-10s still had one on their pre-order list, to make sure they can have theirs. That would have been a cancellable pre-order, of course.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:55 am
by Burn
Is there an actual working link that doesn't require me to register to see these alleged comments by Jin?

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:12 am
by Breakdown 2099
Burn wrote:Is there an actual working link that doesn't require me to register to see these alleged comments by Jin?




2 of 19 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars MP Prime and, 3 Jan 2013
By
Jin Saotome "If my father were alive, I could... (Nashville, TN.) - See all my reviews
= Durability:4.0 out of 5 stars = Fun:5.0 out of 5 stars = Educational:2.0 out of 5 stars
This review is from: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime (Toy)
I'm shocked and appalled by all the entitlement babies that have come out to have a cry because of the pricing error. Did you really think you were going to be able to order a £100 figure for a third of the price? Upon seeing this listing and the incredibly low price I was hesitant so I called Amazon UK's customer service number (0844 545 6508) and inquired. It was only after I directed the lady to google's shopping page showing her that the figure sells for anywhere between £100-£170 did she acknowledge something was off and that she would inform her supervisor. I even called Hasbro to double check and while I didn't get a department that handled Amazon.Uk I was told that MP-10 would never be sold for that low of a price by any retailer and there were no active discounts for it. They suggested I should not place an order and they would let the appropriate parties know of the mistake.

I can understand if you were in a store, the item was on the shelf mis-priced, in the system wrong, and you brought it to the checkout when it scanned for higher. Most stores honor the lower price. But this is an ONLINE STORE and Amazon to boot. They change prices all the time. Someone may have thought it was a Weaponizer Prime, or maybe entered in their net price instead. You didn't drive to a store and get turned down after waiting 10 minutes in line, you clicked a button. All online retailers can change their prices if a mistake has been made and it doesn't cost you anything.

What the majority of people complaining fail to realize is that if they did honor the pricing mistake the loss doesn't just magically go away. A huge loss like that would force either Amazon or Hasbro, perhaps both to raise prices because their board members aren't going to accept a loss of hundreds of thousands of dollars just like that. We'd see price hikes on other items we buy and everyone ELSE would end up paying in the long run for the cheap Mp-10 YOU purchased. I'm sorry but I wasn't going to just sit on my thumbs and let scalpers and entitlment babies get away with that.

If it seems to good to be true on Amazon then call them first and confirm. This will save you a major headache later and keep prices low for everyone.

--Jin Saotome

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:17 am
by Mindmaster
For those who are now feeling contempt against Jin, you're meaning to tell me that integrity is now a bad thing? Really? Have we really gone this low? >:oP

Consider this scenario:

You walk into a grocery store and find several items listed at normal price. You take them to the cashier and she mistakenly rings them up for a lower price. Will you have the honesty to tell the cashier that there is an error, or will you be one of those who takes advantage of the cashier's mistake and say nothing and letting the mistake stand, possibly causing said cashier to lose her job?

I'm with Jin on this one: I applaud his honesty. ;)^

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:29 am
by Breakdown 2099
Gotta love 1st world problems. I couldn't get my toy with my disposable income, whinge whinge whinge. Tell that to those less fortunate than us. Transformers are a luxury, not a necessity, it grieves me that some people blur the lines.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:34 am
by neliz
Mindmaster wrote:You walk into a grocery store and find several items listed at normal price. You take them to the cashier and she mistakenly rings them up for a lower price. Will you have the honesty to tell the cashier that there is an error, or will you be one of those who takes advantage of the cashier's mistake and say nothing and letting the mistake stand, possibly causing said cashier to lose her job?


Yes, because on this earth, in general, they swing tends to swing BOTH ways.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:35 am
by guarayakha
How anyone see Jin's comment as trolling/ hates him for telling Amazon about it boggles my mind. All I get from that post is that:

A) He saw MP10, a 100 buckish toy being sold at a ridiculous price of $30++, his WTF-radar tingles.
B) Decides to inquire and confirm if it's really that cheap, which is a natural thing to do for such a crazy deal. If it turns out to be true, orders will obviously be placed.
C) Amazon realized they'd f**ked up, cancelled all pre-orders for the error, and apologized.

So tell me, how on earth would that be Jin's fault when there could be over 9000 people around the globe who did the same thing, and not be bothered to write about it on the internet?

Considering the outroar I've seen regarding this error about how Amazon should at least honor the deal for those who pre-ordered; did you guys really expect them to operate at a lost? All you've done is proving that Jin's right. >:oP

Re: Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime Listed on AmazonUK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:31 am
by neliz
guarayakha wrote: did you guys really expect them to operate at a lost? All you've done is proving that Jin's right. >:oP


I don't think that one batch of toys is going to hit Amazon's Bottom line hard, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if this is the actual cost-price of the item for Amazon.

Jin's response on Amazon reminds me of the kind of guys in class that would make sure that the entire class got extra homework before a holiday just because he is the one reminding the teacher that he didn't plan this one exam yet.



I HATE that kind of guy... because they are the same kind of people that, when your country gets invaded, he runs to the Nazis to tell on the Jews, because for a Nazi, that is a decent thing to do.