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Re: Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters" Target Exclusive Cyberverse Legion Terrorcons

Postby noctorro » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:13 pm

Bullycon wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Seriously though, let's give them credit where credit is due. Combiners are nasty mother-truckers to get right. As mentioned earlier, they have to have a robot mode, vehicle mode AND limb/torso mode. FOC Bruticus has OK vehicle modes, variable robot modes (ranging from mediocre, such as Onslaught, to great, such as Brawl) and a combined mode that is impressive for how much it achieves with no seperate hand, foot, head or armour pieces, but looks rather disjointed.

Snipping out the part I want to address.

The FOC Combaticons have five robots, each with articulated robot modes, distinct vehicle modes, and combine to form a super robot with head, waist, leg, knee, shoulder and even some elbow articulation. Any limb can swap with any other limb. And it does this without any extra pieces or parts-forming.

It's not perfect, but damn, it does a lot of things right! It's better than any G1 or Energon combiner that I have. And I can get the whole set for $60. For the love of Primus, people, get a grip!


Here freaking here,

FOC Bruticus is the best official transformers combiner to date (imo of course), convince me of a better one.
G1 combiners were easy as hell, little bricks with close to zero articulation. Okay they looked decent, but such an easy concept wouldn't work nowadays.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters" Target Exclusive Cyberverse Legion Terrorcons

Postby Cybershark » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:17 pm

...Someone loves their quotation marks. :lol:

Seriously, grow up. These are toys. You are getting angry over toys.

You know, for kids![/quote]


Gotta love another guy trying to ACT cool on the forum too. Anytime you "know it alls" spout off and say something so ignorant as "Its a kids line, and you need to grow up". Do you see the hypocrisy or the irony in your words?? I further prove my point because YOU as an adult are on a children's toy lines forum trying to act smart, cool, etc. by being a jerk. Just because you do not like me expressing myself over the toy line that BOTH of us are supposed to love. If we didnt we wouldn't be on here would we? So why do I get all this grief for simply pointing out what A LOT of people are thinking and are tired of?? Do you want the line to keep coming out with SUB PAR toys and at higher prices for those Sub par toys? Do you WANT the line to die in the states and only be able to get the product out of country, etc.? Like they were going to do and DID do with the FE Prime lines first toys? I was collecting when they killed the line because of poor sales and poor product in 1990. And in 1992-93 G2, Those toys stayed on shelves for literally 3 years because NO BODY wanted them. I guess its no use talking to some of you. Your going to LOVE everything and TAKE what you get because your scared of losing it? But a lot of people are Not, and if the numbers are large enough they will shut it right on down here again!!

And for the guy trying to tell me how Hasbro HAS to operate and how he assumes 3rd parties operate. I know how they operate, budgets,tooling, deadlines, regulations, factories, the list of things goes on and on, etc. THAT is NOT what stops Hasbro from making good product and selling it at a good price and getting it sold here in the states. Its the idiots in suits that look at numbers only and know nothing of the actual line or the fans or the collectors, buyers, etc. Hell any one of us in this forum could probably come up with several legit ideas that would work that upper Hasbro management in the Transformers brand hasn't even thought of, etc. Sometimes in business the object is not to make as much money as you can right away, BUT to invest into a LONG term plan of attack. And you do that by compromising a few things. You want a good example of that? Look at what Marvel did with their Comic movies, they linked them all together and made them come together in one of the largest movies of all time! And it payed off and it will continue to pay off if they keep giving THEIR customers what THEY WANT!!
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Re: Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters" Target Exclusive Cyberverse Legion Terrorcons

Postby noctorro » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:18 pm

Chill bro, chill.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters" Target Exclusive Cyberverse Legion Terrorcons

Postby Cybershark » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:21 pm

Va'al wrote:
Cybershark wrote:They ALMOST made a good Bruticus with the FOC toys, but they ended up sucking as well,lol. Sorry, they did.(PCC anyone? lol)


You have a problem with PCCs? :-x


On topic, this looks pretty cool actually! Looking forward to colour pictures, just to figure out if it beats retail FoC Bruticus at SKITTLEPOWER.



LMAO, No I dont man, SORRY, haha.

Na, I actually do, because they had SO MUCH promise. Or at least I had hoped and prayed that they would be so much better then what they turned out to be. BTW, anybody need any MISB ones? I have them all,lol.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters" Target Exclusive Cyberverse Legion Terrorcons

Postby GuyIncognito » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:25 pm

Take a chill pill or get a new hobby. You seem to enjoy complaining and ranting more than you enjoy collecting.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters" Target Exclusive Cyberverse Legion Terrorcons

Postby Cybershark » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:33 pm

Blurrz wrote:
Cybershark wrote:And for whoever told me to stop collecting just because of a rant, umm No. If You want to buy any of my MISB stuff?? I already sold most of my Japanese MISB items over the last 2 years (sold some to ebays "sonofyada" a very large MISB AFA collector, Now he must be rich,lol). But I still have some left like an Abominus, Metrotitan, and some others.


Everyone's entitled to their opinion, it's cool. But this topic is for the aforementioned toys.

Let's refrain from trying to sell our own wares, sharing our collection's life-stories or insulting each other.



WOW, Really, you say that to me? Did you not see all the aforementioned insulting done to me earlier?? etc. So it was "ok" then right? Cuz they are your forum buddies on here or what? Are you another prime example of what I said was going on in here? And for You to say that nobody can even talk about their collections in this thread or post? WOW, Talk about "forum nazi". :HEADHURTS:

I think The Abominus looks fairly cool for being legends toys. Why they dont make a larger one? More articulated one? more detailed one? That would be Crazy!!!
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Re: Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters" Target Exclusive Cyberverse Legion Terrorcons

Postby That Bot » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:35 pm

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noctorro wrote:
Bullycon wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Seriously though, let's give them credit where credit is due. Combiners are nasty mother-truckers to get right. As mentioned earlier, they have to have a robot mode, vehicle mode AND limb/torso mode. FOC Bruticus has OK vehicle modes, variable robot modes (ranging from mediocre, such as Onslaught, to great, such as Brawl) and a combined mode that is impressive for how much it achieves with no seperate hand, foot, head or armour pieces, but looks rather disjointed.

Snipping out the part I want to address.

The FOC Combaticons have five robots, each with articulated robot modes, distinct vehicle modes, and combine to form a super robot with head, waist, leg, knee, shoulder and even some elbow articulation. Any limb can swap with any other limb. And it does this without any extra pieces or parts-forming.

It's not perfect, but damn, it does a lot of things right! It's better than any G1 or Energon combiner that I have. And I can get the whole set for $60. For the love of Primus, people, get a grip!


Here freaking here,

FOC Bruticus is the best official transformers combiner to date (imo of course), convince me of a better one.
G1 combiners were easy as hell, little bricks with close to zero articulation. Okay they looked decent, but such an easy concept wouldn't work nowadays.

Beast Wars Magnaboss is a pretty legit combiner, even after all these years. Course, Ironhide makes 2/3 of the combined robot (both legs, lower torso, both arms), so that's probably part of it.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters" Target Exclusive Cyberverse Legion Terrorcons

Postby Delta Magnus » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:27 pm

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Cybershark, I smell impending banhammer...

Seriously. We get it. You're sad because you don't like Hasbro's newest version of your favourite toys. Boo-slaggin'-hoo. Grow up. I don't like the new Mega Man games (mainly because they are just the old-incredibly bad-games with new Robot Masters, complete with atrocious "retro" graphics that make poor Mega Man look like a deformed troll) but you don't hear me going on big long rants about it.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters" Target Exclusive Cyberverse Legion Terrorcons

Postby datguy86 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:39 pm

Motto: "SHEEAGH!"
Cybershark wrote:And for the guy trying to tell me how Hasbro HAS to operate and how he assumes 3rd parties operate. I know how they operate, budgets,tooling, deadlines, regulations, factories, the list of things goes on and on, etc. THAT is NOT what stops Hasbro from making good product and selling it at a good price and getting it sold here in the states. Its the idiots in suits that look at numbers only and know nothing of the actual line or the fans or the collectors, buyers, etc.


You're right. When I put forth my apparently insulting suggestion that larger companies are more rigid in structure and smaller companies are not I assure you the intent was to bring up a point, not start an argument.

What really prevents Hasbro engineers from putting out a truly good toy are the suits. Designers log thousands of completely superior designs that are ultimately rejected for being too expensive to produce. The constant feedback of "Hey this is awesome! But can we make it cheaper?" has resulted in designers churning out toy designs with one hand on the drawing board and the other hand alternating between reaching for grain alcohol shots and unsteadily holding some type of revolver to their own temple. Designers do this while crying, as visible tear stains on designer documents (yes, even those in .pdf) are what really pushes the toy design through. And the suits laugh. They laugh at the designers for their broken minds. They laugh at the Chinese for their deplorable work conditions. And then we, the consumers, are laughed at because we buy the toys.

Moreover, the suits sit on these superior designs; lovingly crafted for fans by fans, and wipe their asses with both these superior designs and our money.

You and your paranoid ranting has shown me the way. I can't wait to go home and get in a fight with my 1/6 scale organic Steeljaw. Thank you.


Cybershark wrote:Hell any one of us in this forum could probably come up with several legit ideas that would work that upper Hasbro management in the Transformers brand hasn't even thought of, etc. Sometimes in business the object is not to make as much money as you can right away, BUT to invest into a LONG term plan of attack. And you do that by compromising a few things. You want a good example of that? Look at what Marvel did with their Comic movies, they linked them all together and made them come together in one of the largest movies of all time! And it payed off and it will continue to pay off if they keep giving THEIR customers what THEY WANT!!


It's all good to give customers what they want, but a "LONG term plan of attack" sometimes means you have to cash in quickly on what's hot in order to afford employees and not get rid of them as companies will do instead of sacking higher paid executives. If you wish to change this mentality, then please take your ranty wisdom and apply it to the toy market. After all, "any one of us in this forum could probably come up with several legit ideas that would work that upper Hasbro management in the Transformers brand hasn't even thought of, etc."
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Re: Transformers Prime "Beast Hunters" Target Exclusive Cyberverse Legion Terrorcons

Postby noctorro » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:58 pm

That Bot wrote:Beast Wars Magnaboss is a pretty legit combiner, even after all these years. Course, Ironhide makes 2/3 of the combined robot (both legs, lower torso, both arms), so that's probably part of it.


He does look good and uniform because of Ironhide.
But to stay in the 5-6 dudes in the squad combiners, the Energon combiners look kind of decent. Aside from having 2 twins per squad :p
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