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Down_Shift wrote:Wow, that was some kinda rant.

My favorite part is "if you take everything I said as it was written then your missing the entire point!!"

Two exclamation marks makes it sound very over bearing, and very very whiny. Also, someone get this guy a few years of past threads to read through, maybe brush up on what he thinks he's talking about. Always a new guy willing to tell everyone else how it is, then when someone calls him on it they spew more garbage from what they think they know of the fandom and of Hasbro themselves.

Idiot rants like that are why I seldom post here anymore.

datguy86 wrote:

Cybershark wrote:And for the guy trying to tell me how Hasbro HAS to operate and how he assumes 3rd parties operate. I know how they operate, budgets,tooling, deadlines, regulations, factories, the list of things goes on and on, etc. THAT is NOT what stops Hasbro from making good product and selling it at a good price and getting it sold here in the states. Its the idiots in suits that look at numbers only and know nothing of the actual line or the fans or the collectors, buyers, etc.

You're right. When I put forth my apparently insulting suggestion that larger companies are more rigid in structure and smaller companies are not I assure you the intent was to bring up a point, not start an argument.

What really prevents Hasbro engineers from putting out a truly good toy are the suits. Designers log thousands of completely superior designs that are ultimately rejected for being too expensive to produce. The constant feedback of "Hey this is awesome! But can we make it cheaper?" has resulted in designers churning out toy designs with one hand on the drawing board and the other hand alternating between reaching for grain alcohol shots and unsteadily holding some type of revolver to their own temple. Designers do this while crying, as visible tear stains on designer documents (yes, even those in .pdf) are what really pushes the toy design through. And the suits laugh. They laugh at the designers for their broken minds. They laugh at the Chinese for their deplorable work conditions. And then we, the consumers, are laughed at because we buy the toys.

Moreover, the suits sit on these superior designs; lovingly crafted for fans by fans, and wipe their asses with both these superior designs and our money.

You and your paranoid ranting has shown me the way. I can't wait to go home and get in a fight with my 1/6 scale organic Steeljaw. Thank you.

Cybershark wrote:Hell any one of us in this forum could probably come up with several legit ideas that would work that upper Hasbro management in the Transformers brand hasn't even thought of, etc. Sometimes in business the object is not to make as much money as you can right away, BUT to invest into a LONG term plan of attack. And you do that by compromising a few things. You want a good example of that? Look at what Marvel did with their Comic movies, they linked them all together and made them come together in one of the largest movies of all time! And it payed off and it will continue to pay off if they keep giving THEIR customers what THEY WANT!!

It's all good to give customers what they want, but a "LONG term plan of attack" sometimes means you have to cash in quickly on what's hot in order to afford employees and not get rid of them as companies will do instead of sacking higher paid executives. If you wish to change this mentality, then please take your ranty wisdom and apply it to the toy market. After all, "any one of us in this forum could probably come up with several legit ideas that would work that upper Hasbro management in the Transformers brand hasn't even thought of, etc."

datguy86 wrote:You're right. When I put forth my apparently insulting suggestion that larger companies are more rigid in structure and smaller companies are not I assure you the intent was to bring up a point, not start an argument.

What really prevents Hasbro engineers from putting out a truly good toy are the suits. Designers log thousands of completely superior designs that are ultimately rejected for being too expensive to produce. The constant feedback of "Hey this is awesome! But can we make it cheaper?" has resulted in designers churning out toy designs with one hand on the drawing board and the other hand alternating between reaching for grain alcohol shots and unsteadily holding some type of revolver to their own temple. Designers do this while crying, as visible tear stains on designer documents (yes, even those in .pdf) are what really pushes the toy design through. And the suits laugh. They laugh at the designers for their broken minds. They laugh at the Chinese for their deplorable work conditions. And then we, the consumers, are laughed at because we buy the toys.

Moreover, the suits sit on these superior designs; lovingly crafted for fans by fans, and wipe their asses with both these superior designs and our money.