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im not complaing about this magnus, i think its awesome, but what was wrong with this one? why do people hate it?

Doubledealer93 wrote:im not complaing about this magnus, i think its awesome, but what was wrong with this one? why do people hate it?

Okay, perhaps I should have been more clear, sorry. It DOES look good. Like, sitting there, in a decent pose (provided you cover up those struts), it looks good. Again, on paper.

But I've had it in hand I'm utterly disappointed. In person I just don't like it, which is a shame, because originally I thought UM would be the standout from his wave. As it stands, I LOVE Thundertron, and PRiD UM is an easy pass. Also, that back kibble bugs me the way it sits above-his-shoulders enough to be in the way of the head and lightpiping but not-high-enough to be Huffer-esque. It just looks like it's in the way.

Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because that's not what Ultra Magnus looks like in Prime's official canon. He has an entirely different model from PRiD.

RAcast wrote:

Doubledealer93 wrote:im not complaing about this magnus, i think its awesome, but what was wrong with this one? why do people hate it?

Okay, perhaps I should have been more clear, sorry. It DOES look good. Like, sitting there, in a decent pose (provided you cover up those struts), it looks good. Again, on paper.

But I've had it in hand I'm utterly disappointed. In person I just don't like it, which is a shame, because originally I thought UM would be the standout from his wave. As it stands, I LOVE Thundertron, and PRiD UM is an easy pass. Also, that back kibble bugs me the way it sits above-his-shoulders enough to be in the way of the head and lightpiping but not-high-enough to be Huffer-esque. It just looks like it's in the way.

understandable, i am really disappointed that he has a real lack of paint too. he could have had much better paint.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because that's not what Ultra Magnus looks like in Prime's official canon. He has an entirely different model from PRiD.

http://comicbookrealm.com/cover-scan/f6 ... -2ri-b.jpg

That model is bad and it should feel bad. I much prefer the look of the Cyberverse and RID toys.

That Bot wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because that's not what Ultra Magnus looks like in Prime's official canon. He has an entirely different model from PRiD.

That model is bad and it should feel bad. I much prefer the look of the Cyberverse and RID toys.

I quite like that model.

Mindmaster wrote:

That Bot wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because that's not what Ultra Magnus looks like in Prime's official canon. He has an entirely different model from PRiD.

That model is bad and it should feel bad. I much prefer the look of the Cyberverse and RID toys.

I quite like that model.

I do too, it feels much more like Ultra magnus. No weird kibble, nice chunky shoulders, the chest is straight out of G1, and he even has Optimus' legs.

We seem to be at a standoff. Since these are opinions, technically neither those of you who like it more than RID nor those like me who prefer RID more are right or wrong.....but that's a boring answer. We must decide who gets to be right with a duel! I propose a children's card game.

That Bot wrote:We seem to be at a standoff. Since these are opinions, technically neither those of you who like it more than RID nor those like me who prefer RID more are right or wrong.....but that's a boring answer. We must decide who gets to be right with a duel! I propose a children's card game.

bring it

let's not forget we saw this guy in-show in the orion pax storyline, and he looks suspiciously like that lil guy

Hypershock wrote:let's not forget we saw this guy in-show in the orion pax storyline, and he looks suspiciously like that lil guy

Good point! I'd forgotten about that.

Doubledealer93 wrote:

That Bot wrote:We seem to be at a standoff. Since these are opinions, technically neither those of you who like it more than RID nor those like me who prefer RID more are right or wrong.....but that's a boring answer. We must decide who gets to be right with a duel! I propose a children's card game.

bring it

Need a wing-man?

One of these days I will own one of these wonky colored prototypes.

Hypershock wrote:let's not forget we saw this guy in-show in the orion pax storyline, and he looks suspiciously like that lil guy

I do remember that. It got me wondering why the two toys Magnus got were, first, so similar, and second, so different from that. Still, the "truck cab shoulders" Magnus has really appealed to me since I first saw pictures of it, and that's the Magnus I want to see in the show. My first Ultra Magnus was the original RID Magnus (from 2001), so I never knew he was "supposed" to be Prime with armor until they started the G1 reissues in 2002 or so. I'm fine with Magnus having his own look, and I really like the transformations of the two Prime Magnuses.

Doubledealer93 wrote:

That Bot wrote:We seem to be at a standoff. Since these are opinions, technically neither those of you who like it more than RID nor those like me who prefer RID more are right or wrong.....but that's a boring answer. We must decide who gets to be right with a duel! I propose a children's card game.

bring it

Thank you for getting that.

Hm... the Magnus mold on that comic book cover looks a lot like it's just a modified version of the Optimus Prime digital model.

I wonder if they changed Magnus' design (from the first PRID voyager toy) because it would be cheaper for him to appear in the show as a modified Optimus. Hence the new toy design...?

Magnus is probably using an altered Optimus model in the third season (if he's in the third season) because Optimus is upgrading into the Beast Hunters Voyager and they didn't want his old model to go to waste. It also saves money to use on another bot.

PrymeStriker wrote:Magnus is probably using an altered Optimus model in the third season (if he's in the third season) because Optimus is upgrading into the Beast Hunters Voyager and they didn't want his old model to go to waste. It also saves money to use on another bot.

That's an interesting point. I hadn't taken into account Optimus's new look, meaning Magnus wouldn't look like such an obvious remodeling. And considering we saw Magnus way back at the beginning of last season, it makes you wonder how far in advance they plan this stuff.

RAcast wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because the PRiD mold is awful? I certainly won't miss it, what with the absurdly TINY shoulder struts, obnoxious back kibble, and weirdly proportioned legs.

Awful? I like it, I don't think you know what awful is or your not talking about the same thing

PrymeStriker wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:and what was wrong with updating the other ultra magnus mold to a beast-hunters super armor version i was kind of hoping

Because that's not what Ultra Magnus looks like in Prime's official canon. He has an entirely different model from PRiD.

Uh, SO... they already made the toy

Ultra Markus wrote:Uh, SO... they already made the toy

Why does that matter? Smokescreen didn't turn out looking anything like his Arms Micron toy, and that was made (while not released) way before he appeared on Prime. Models change, it's a part of the development.

And like I said before, they probably changed it to Optimus' model to save money for another guy joining us in the third season.

I like both Ultra Magnuses...AND I WILL HAVE BOTH ULTRA MAGNUSES... Let's hope this isn't some third party add-on, or blood will be shed.

I fall in the camp of not liking the 1st ultra Magnus toy we got. I'm a huge fan of the original g1 character and toy. He was my de facto autobot leader till I got my power master prime. I'd love to see a proper homage or remake of the original... The prob with the prime toy for me is that he perhaps borrowed too much from the tfa version. Too little red, rubbish weapon gimmick, and useless alt mode... Still no airachnid but defo below average.

frogbat wrote:The prob with the prime toy for me is that he perhaps borrowed too much from the tfa version. Too little red, rubbish weapon gimmick, and useless alt mode... Still no airachnid but defo below average.

Really? I think it's the best Powerizer toy we got. It's the only one with a locking weapon, the clear parts are well-integrated, the vehicle parts integrate well into his robot mode (excepting the backpack), he has good proportions and overall I really like his look. He's got a decent vehicle mode, and I feel he stands apart well enough from Animated Magnus.

I suppose it comes back to my earlier point that the other RID Magnus was my Ultra Magnus for a long time, and in fact besides that one the only other Ultra Magnus toys I have are the other iterations of Aligned Magnus. I didn't watch Animated when it aired, I've still only seen the first season after the fact, and Reissue and Classics Magnus never did much for me (before Fansproject but then it was too late).

roBROmanceFTW wrote:I like both Ultra Magnuses...AND I WILL HAVE BOTH ULTRA MAGNUSES... Let's hope this isn't some third party add-on, or blood will be shed.

/agree

more new ultra magnus will soften the wait for the inevitable MP Ultra Magnus

Looks better than the slightly goofy version available atm.