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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby SkyWarpsGhost » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:00 am

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I've bought every single PRID mold (some twice to display in both modes) and 7 of the AMs, but it stops with these.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby gothsaurus » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:39 am

Get out of my head SkyWarpsGhost! Are you in my BBTS account or what? Stop buying everything I'm buying! AIGH!!!

But seriously, sound like you just detailed my past two years, including the handful of AM figures... tapering off to canceling my orders for the line. Figuring I'll get ONE Prime and Bumblebee for Beast Hunters (like I did for the four year run of movie toys) and call it done.

As a side note... Nice glass display cases, my friend. Looks great.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby QBKiller94 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:12 pm

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SkyWarpsGhost wrote:I don't mind the firing projectiles, but the aesthetics of this Beast line is horrible to my eyes.

I've bought every single PRID mold (some twice to display in both modes) and 7 of the AMs, but it stops with these.


I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm pretty much out on the Beast line. Like the larger version of Predaking, but I need to see more of him. Right now I'm putting my money toward the MP line instead.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby gothsaurus » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:19 pm

I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing, that Hasbro/Takara devotes some real thought to planning some adult collector toys, instead of just one Masterpiece figure every year or so. A line of original mold club exclusives or online store toy line aimed at high-end collectors would be very welcome.

Considering people are dropping $600 a pop for a good Devastator likeness, I know there's a market for it.

That said, does anyone know what an average "line" of Hasbro toys costs? Like a "standard" off the shelf set of movie toys, or animated, etc.? Wondering what it means having someone skip a line like Beast Hunters means in real money. Anyone feel like doing the adding to estimate it?
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:28 pm

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gothsaurus wrote:I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing,
Well, if that's the result of this line, then that's fine with me. More for me to enjoy then. To the victor go the spoils. :twisted:
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:42 pm

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gothsaurus wrote:I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing, that Hasbro/Takara devotes some real thought to planning some adult collector toys, instead of just one Masterpiece figure every year or so. A line of original mold club exclusives or online store toy line aimed at high-end collectors would be very welcome.


Or, more likely, Hasbro will ditch the fan market completely due to no more revenue.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Manterax Prime » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:49 pm

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gothsaurus wrote:I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing,
Well, if that's the result of this line, then that's fine with me. More for me to enjoy then. To the victor go the spoils. :twisted:


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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby PrymeStriker » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:51 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing,
Well, if that's the result of this line, then that's fine with me. More for me to enjoy then. To the victor go the spoils. :twisted:


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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Manterax Prime » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:56 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:I hope with a lot of adult collectors bailing,
Well, if that's the result of this line, then that's fine with me. More for me to enjoy then. To the victor go the spoils. :twisted:


You and me both. More bots for us!


Count me in. :-B


Of course. Of course. :D

TBH, I don't know why people hate this guy. You'd think they'd be happy he doesn't follow the movie design that alot of people hated and that he's done away w/ the crappy powerizer gimmick. Hell, he's done away w/ mechtech completely.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby PrymeStriker » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:00 pm

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Manterax Prime wrote:TBH, I don't know why people hate this guy. You'd think they'd be happy he doesn't follow the movie design that alot of people hated and that he's done away w/ the crappy powerizer gimmick. Hell, he's done away w/ mechtech completely.


I think he's pretty good. The more I look at him, the more I want him. However, I need a little bit more to have me completely sold. Specifically, I need to see a review of this guy and how he should be transformed. As a side factor, I'd like to see if this "upgrade" happens in the show and how they handle it.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Manterax Prime » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:03 pm

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FE Optimus and BH Optimus are the only ones I want out of the Prime line. I also want the Dark Energon version but that's the only version of the Powerizer OP I actually like.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:05 pm

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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:19 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Here's a more GEEWUN version hueswapped by Destron-D69 of Allspark.com:

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Personally, I think it looks too Geewun.


Can anyone digi-color him into Guiltor? ;)
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby gothsaurus » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:23 pm

Yeah, I would count on getting the blue windows version from Takara. (I'm sure we can count on that.)

But yeah, not as many problems with this guy... more with the spikey other characters, and the generally more young aesthetic.

I am indeed going to pick this guy up.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby SkyWarpsGhost » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:30 pm

Weapon: Dual Photon Launchers
Only just noticed that the Commander class Prime is mis-transformed as well. He's feet are not flipped out.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby gothsaurus » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:39 pm

Yeah, it's really funny how often we get mistransformed bots in photos, instruction manuals, etc. Gotta laugh at it.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby SkyWarpsGhost » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:57 pm

Weapon: Dual Photon Launchers
It's kinda becoming a running joke with Hasbros press shots that they are 90% of the time mis-transformed. Whoever is in charge of taking pics needs a good talking to lol
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby RAcast » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:20 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Here's a more GEEWUN version hueswapped by Destron-D69 of Allspark.com:

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Personally, I think it looks too Geewun.


Can anyone digi-color him into Guiltor? ;)

That does look pretty good. Even if Takara does that, I'll stick with the toxic green windowed version, I like it specifically for being different. :)
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:25 pm

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SkyWarpsGhost wrote:It's kinda becoming a running joke with Hasbros press shots that they are 90% of the time mis-transformed. Whoever is in charge of taking pics needs a good talking to lol
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby That Bot » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:56 pm

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A children's toyline actually looking appropriate for children? THE HORROR!

Damn it, I was going to say something like that! I mean god forbid a toy for kids looks like *gasp* a TOY for KIDS!

Even my 6 year old soon says it looks like its from the rescue bot line and when I say kiddy I mean play school fisher price kiddy and there are tons of people on this topic saying this toy sucks and looks kiddy so go troll someone else.

It's well-established that the Transformers fandom is (ironically) resistant to change, and they're very whiny and vocal about it. Honestly I think we've just been spoiled by the high-detail Movieverse and some Generations figures, this doesn't look any worse than an Armada toy. And for everybody complaining about how awful it looks, I've seen just as many people say they like it and want to get it. If you don't like it, I'm sorry. We're not the target for Transformers toys like this anyway. I can look at this through my inner kid's eyes and see the appeal of it, and that's good enough for me.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby gothsaurus » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:48 pm

I think my biggest problem is the shift MIDWAY through a toy line.. and tv show. (ie. Tranformers Prime) Comparing the first edition toys with these, there's a big design change. It looks like a different toy line. I think that's a shame. I wish Hasbro could hold the course to the end of a show or toy line.

And yeah, I agree the fan base is reluctant to change. (ironic, right?) But I was actually excited and welcoming to see a good number of new lines... Animated didn't bother me, because it was stylized. Classics/Generations was great. Prime launching was fantastic. Machine Wars, Armada, Energon, and Cybertron all had some really great bots... and had me excited as well. Even the side lines of Titanium, PowerCore, FOC, WFC all got positive response from me.

On the flip side - it's funny the movie stuff bothered me, in spite of being very detailed - because it deviated from G1 so much. AND this line bothers me because it jumped the track from fairly realistic to child-like midway. If it were a new show, instead of a continuation, I think I'd have LOTS less problems with it.

All that said, I suppose we should ALL watch the show... see what they do with the aesthetics and characters, then see if we want to buy the matching toys. Eh?
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby PrymeStriker » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:55 pm

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gothsaurus wrote:I think my biggest problem is the shift MIDWAY through a toy line.. and tv show. (ie. Tranformers Prime) Comparing the first edition toys with these, there's a big design change. It looks like a different toy line.


I'm probably one of the few that enjoys a shift in the feel of a toyline or show. Image

All that said, I suppose we should ALL watch the show... see what they do with the aesthetics and characters, then see if we want to buy the matching toys. Eh?


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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby gothsaurus » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:03 pm

Well, I agree SOME kinda shift is good... like adding new characters or beasts or a new location or a power up or a color change.

And yeah, agreed. I'll be picking up Prime and Bee regardless. But the show will certainly have some bearing on if I get more. Looking forward to the next season!
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:04 pm

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gothsaurus wrote:I think my biggest problem is the shift MIDWAY through a toy line.. and tv show. (ie. Tranformers Prime)
What about the shift from organic-looking beasts to Transmetals and Fuzors, and from those to Transmetal 2's, in Beast Wars? This is highly evocative of that very kind of shift. You could even call these "Transmetal 2 vehicles" (only with a lack of chrome).

Another example would be the shift from realistic to sci-fi styled vehicles and back and forth again in G1.

gothsaurus wrote:Comparing the first edition toys with these, there's a big design change. It looks like a different toy line. I think that's a shame. I wish Hasbro could hold the course to the end of a show or toy line.
It IS a different toyline. Transformers: Prime Beast Hunters will be the third (fourth if you include the Dark Energon line) toyline under the Prime franchise banner. TF: Prime is a rare case in that it's had more than one consecutive toyline running under its label.

gothsaurus wrote:AND this line bothers me because it jumped the track from fairly realistic to child-like midway.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Voyager Beast Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby gothsaurus » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:14 pm

okay, maybe I should say a change from realistic (in the original TFPrime) to, well, not very realistic. If I saw the new prime driving down the street, I'd say it looked like a toy. The first one, though, had a lot of detail... down to the rivets, pistons, corrugated panels, vents...

But yeah, I get what you are all saying about a new look.

I think the real test is the girlfriend test. My GF is gonna roll her eyes if I try to buy any toys from this line... same look she does when I try to watch Rescue Bots.
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