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Re: Transformers Prime Ironhide Takara Tomy Exclusive?

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:14 pm

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When we say a mold is broken, we mean the mold the toy is cast from is broken. That means it's unusable to make more toys with. Molds can also deteriorate from overuse, which has happened to several.

"Mold" and "toy" are used interchangeably, but are actually two totally different things.
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Re: Transformers Prime Ironhide Takara Tomy Exclusive?

Postby KNM2012 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:52 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Reissuing all G1 Toys? Impossible, thanks to these molds being broken and/or lost:

- G1 Wheeljack
- G1 Sunstreaker
- G1 Mirage
- G1 Dinobots (debatable, but likely)

And reverse-engineering them is tricky, but especially costly business. So no reissues for these guys.


Actually, I need to correct you there. All they need to remake the molds is a scanner to scan the pieces, the software to both create and save the scans, a device to replicate the pieces, and a way to make new molds for mass production. These days, even classrooms have these items at hand. And the only challenge both Hasbro and Takara Tomy face are finding pieces that may still be minty fresh.

However... The first three might be a challenge to obtain, as I have seen little to no KOs, Classics, etc. of them. But the Dinobots... And you gave me a reason to re-add MP-8 Grimlock to my wish list... There are quite a bit of KOs on that set. Which means that both companies can easily confiscate them, disassemble them, and fix any issues the KOs have. :lol:

But even if they did, I can only assume that Takara Tomy would make some improvements... While Hasbro does their own thing. ;)
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Re: Transformers Prime Ironhide Takara Tomy Exclusive?

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:03 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
Molds or parts of, rather, have been restored, yes, but they were small ones. Full toys are still expensive as you'd be recreating a toy from scratch, from the design on paper to the new toy. With reissues being made from readily available molds, with no R&D and legal costs (think patents) on top, I don't need to ask how expensive new mold "reissues" would have to be in order to be cost-effective. :-B

And now back to our regular topic >:oP
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Re: Transformers Prime Ironhide Takara Tomy Exclusive?

Postby Ironhide/Starscream » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:00 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Molds or parts of, rather, have been restored, yes, but they were small ones. Full toys are still expensive as you'd be recreating a toy from scratch, from the design on paper to the new toy. With reissues being made from readily available molds, with no R&D and legal costs (think patents) on top, I don't need to ask how expensive new mold "reissues" would have to be in order to be cost-effective. :-B

And now back to our regular topic >:oP

I heard of Reissues. What made me bring up the topic was i had a dream my aunt had a loose Sideswipe from G1. I still have not a single G1 figure :BOOM: maybe when i get some money
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Re: Transformers Prime Ironhide Takara Tomy Exclusive?

Postby KNM2012 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:41 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Molds or parts of, rather, have been restored, yes, but they were small ones. Full toys are still expensive as you'd be recreating a toy from scratch, from the design on paper to the new toy. With reissues being made from readily available molds, with no R&D and legal costs (think patents) on top, I don't need to ask how expensive new mold "reissues" would have to be in order to be cost-effective. :-B

And now back to our regular topic >:oP


Quite honestly... The only toys TOMY has been creating both by hand and from scratch are the Masterpiece lines. The rest... I would be surprised if they are not using computers, as the only issue is time and not money. (And what is sad is that there are talks that it can help make illegal firearms.) So, either way, their profit margin will always be greater than the costs. :lol:

Besides... Back on topic, Ironhide is one of those characters I am assuming is being made in one of Hasbro's factories. :-?

Ironhide/Starscream wrote:I heard of Reissues. What made me bring up the topic was i had a dream my aunt had a loose Sideswipe from G1. I still have not a single G1 figure :BOOM: maybe when i get some money


I can understand. I started off late, missing out on "Encore" Convoy, "Henkei!" Skyfire, and a few other pieces. So my problem is that I can either pay premium and pray that they are slightly better than C-9 or just change my collection-based rules. But that is a different story.

However... I am assuming that box condition, much less if it is a reissue or not, are not an issue for you. Because if that is true, here you go: http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/159/

It is the "Encore" version of "G1" Ironhide. They also have Ratchet for sale, but I focused more on this one for you. Just know that unlike Ratchet, they only have this in a C-9 box... Which means that there will be some dents and dings on the box.

Either way... I assume that the "Arms Micron" version of Ironhide will cost as much as this Ironhide. So either way, you now have an option. ;)
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Re: Transformers Prime Ironhide Takara Tomy Exclusive?

Postby Ironhide/Starscream » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:58 pm

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Ironhide/Starscream wrote:I heard of Reissues. What made me bring up the topic was i had a dream my aunt had a loose Sideswipe from G1. I still have not a single G1 figure :BOOM: maybe when i get some money

[/quote]I can understand. I started off late, missing out on "Encore" Convoy, "Henkei!" Skyfire, and a few other pieces. So my problem is that I can either pay premium and pray that they are slightly better than C-9 or just change my collection-based rules. But that is a different story.

However... I am assuming that box condition, much less if it is a reissue or not, are not an issue for you. Because if that is true, here you go: http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/159/

It is the "Encore" version of "G1" Ironhide. They also have Ratchet for sale, but I focused more on this one for you. Just know that unlike Ratchet, they only have this in a C-9 box... Which means that there will be some dents and dings on the box.

Either way... I assume that the "Arms Micron" version of Ironhide will cost as much as this Ironhide. So either way, you now have an option. ;)[/quote]
Thank you very much. I just remembered when i was like 5, i played with my cousins TF jet. If i remember correctly, it was a G1 seeker....Thundercracker maybe? Anyway im gonna see if my cousin still has his collection and is willing to donate me some XD
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Re: Transformers Prime Ironhide Takara Tomy Exclusive?

Postby KNM2012 » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:29 pm

Ironhide/Starscream wrote:
Ironhide/Starscream wrote:I heard of Reissues. What made me bring up the topic was i had a dream my aunt had a loose Sideswipe from G1. I still have not a single G1 figure :BOOM: maybe when i get some money

I can understand. I started off late, missing out on "Encore" Convoy, "Henkei!" Skyfire, and a few other pieces. So my problem is that I can either pay premium and pray that they are slightly better than C-9 or just change my collection-based rules. But that is a different story.

However... I am assuming that box condition, much less if it is a reissue or not, are not an issue for you. Because if that is true, here you go: http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/159/

It is the "Encore" version of "G1" Ironhide. They also have Ratchet for sale, but I focused more on this one for you. Just know that unlike Ratchet, they only have this in a C-9 box... Which means that there will be some dents and dings on the box.

Either way... I assume that the "Arms Micron" version of Ironhide will cost as much as this Ironhide. So either way, you now have an option. ;)

Thank you very much. I just remembered when i was like 5, i played with my cousins TF jet. If i remember correctly, it was a G1 seeker....Thundercracker maybe? Anyway im gonna see if my cousin still has his collection and is willing to donate me some XD

Very much welcome. I have to recommend it as it is a great recreated vintage piece, even though it is a shame that "Encore" Starscream is hard to come by.

Also remember... If it was blue, then it was Thundercracker. If it was black, Skywarp. And if it was white, expect it to try to take over your Decepticon forces and fail in the end. :lol: Either way, they were pretty cool Seekers. And I do hope he has them, as well as is willing to give them to you. :BOT:
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