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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby XDMan » Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:36 pm

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What are you, his wife?


I'm Smokescreen's ****. Got a problem with that?

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Also, I don't know why he doesn't look like Knock Out to anyone. He sure as hell looks like Knock Out's toy aside from the door-wings and arms (which I explained how they could re-engineer that here) to me.
It's just like Shockwave. He was going to look like his WFC design (which I still think it's part of G1, not Prime), but then looked like he has elements from the G1 and movie designs. And another example in the past was G1 Megatron, as he looked younger (younger looking face, handheld fusion cannon, helmet is black and looks like hair). Take a look from the Marvel Comics version:

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And a comparison at the Sumbow version:

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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby RAcast » Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:39 pm

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XDMan wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:Kick some ass, Smokie. I'm waiting for you tonight. :KREMZEEK:

What are you, his wife?


I'm Smokescreen's ****. Got a problem with that?

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Also, I don't know why he doesn't look like Knock Out to anyone. He sure as hell looks like Knock Out's toy aside from the door-wings and arms (which I explained how they could re-engineer that here) to me.
It's just like Shockwave. He was going to look like his WFC design (which I still think it's part of G1, not Prime), but then looked like he has elements from the G1 and movie designs. And another example in the past was G1 Megatron, as he looked younger (younger looking face, handheld fusion cannon, helmet is black and looks like hair). Take a look from the Marvel Comics version:

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And a comparison at the Sumbow version:

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That Megatron makes me think of a Robot Master out of Megaman.
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby Archanubis » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:28 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:I'm sorry, I just don't see knockout.


I don't see Starscream either.

Who would?


ViperEye82 wrote:Someone said he looks like Starscream early on in the thread.

That would be me. I think it was mostly how narrow his face is compared to the other 'bots.
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby nikkinavarro » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:35 pm

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Well at least we have smokescreen
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby Rhinox23 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:40 pm

I know everyone keeps talking about how Smokescreen will most likely be a Knockout remold/repaint. I really hope that's not true. For me, a majority of the excitement about a new character is for a completely new toy. As I only collect bots and cons that actually appear in the show, I will be very disappointed if Smokescreen turns out to be a remold! :-(
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:41 pm

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Rhinox23 wrote:I know everyone keeps talking about how Smokescreen will most likely be a Knockout remold/repaint. I really hope that's not true. For me, a majority of the excitement about a new character is for a completely new toy. As I only collect bots and cons that actually appear in the show, I will be very disappointed if Smokescreen turns out to be a remold! :-(


He is. It was practically confirmed.

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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby Bubbah » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:51 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
Rhinox23 wrote:I know everyone keeps talking about how Smokescreen will most likely be a Knockout remold/repaint. I really hope that's not true. For me, a majority of the excitement about a new character is for a completely new toy. As I only collect bots and cons that actually appear in the show, I will be very disappointed if Smokescreen turns out to be a remold! :-(


He is. It was practically confirmed.

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I'm still holding out hope that he was used as a stand in figure or as a decoy model so as to not ruin the surprise of him appearing in the show haha (a man can dream can't he?!?)
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby caked-up » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:57 pm

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Wow. The character is interesting enough so far, but if he is just going to be a remold than I am going to keep proudly displaying my Alternator Smokescreen instead of picking this guy up. I totally get Skyquake and Dreadwing being the same mold and all, but I really thought the Prime team was going to keep away from using the same mold more than once for on screen characters.
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby PaxCybertron82 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:09 pm

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Rhinox23 wrote:I know everyone keeps talking about how Smokescreen will most likely be a Knockout remold/repaint. I really hope that's not true. For me, a majority of the excitement about a new character is for a completely new toy. As I only collect bots and cons that actually appear in the show, I will be very disappointed if Smokescreen turns out to be a remold! :-(


Lol, are you new here? Remolds/repaints into new characters has been going on since 1984. :CON:
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby caked-up » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:23 pm

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ViperEye82 wrote:
Rhinox23 wrote:I know everyone keeps talking about how Smokescreen will most likely be a Knockout remold/repaint. I really hope that's not true. For me, a majority of the excitement about a new character is for a completely new toy. As I only collect bots and cons that actually appear in the show, I will be very disappointed if Smokescreen turns out to be a remold! :-(


Lol, are you new here? Remolds/repaints into new characters has been going on since 1984. :CON:


Not at all. I know that is how it worked in the past and will work in the future. It is just that the cartoon writers expressed that they weren't going to do that for screen characters. I don't have an ounce of reservation that Hot Shot and Flamewar are retools/redecos of main characters. I just find it odd that even after saying it, they did it anyways.
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby PaxCybertron82 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:00 pm

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Ah, got it, yeah, that makes sense. It would be cool to see a new design for him. I have to say, even though I watch it, I totally Hate Prime and all the designs, but Smokescreen did look pretty cool. Very "Jazz-ish". I wish Classics Smokescreen/Prowl weren't so fugly.
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby Rhinox23 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:32 pm

caked-up wrote:
ViperEye82 wrote:
Rhinox23 wrote:I know everyone keeps talking about how Smokescreen will most likely be a Knockout remold/repaint. I really hope that's not true. For me, a majority of the excitement about a new character is for a completely new toy. As I only collect bots and cons that actually appear in the show, I will be very disappointed if Smokescreen turns out to be a remold! :-(


Lol, are you new here? Remolds/repaints into new characters has been going on since 1984. :CON:


Not at all. I know that is how it worked in the past and will work in the future. It is just that the cartoon writers expressed that they weren't going to do that for screen characters. I don't have an ounce of reservation that Hot Shot and Flamewar are retools/redecos of main characters. I just find it odd that even after saying it, they did it anyways.


Actually, I am not new on here. Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I completely understand and am familiar with how Hasbro repaints, remolds, retools previous molds to make additional figures. I am just bothered that they are doing this with a screen character.

It seems that they may have done this in the past, but in more recent memory, screen characters usually get their own unique toy mold. I could be wrong (I'm sure someone will point out the ones I'm overlooking) but the past 3-4 TF shows have had unique toy molds. Now, these molds might later be turned into other remolds, etc. but they are for characters that have never, and will never, appear on the show itself.

I can't really think of any for TF Animated, Beast Wars, or Beast Machines. Tigertron and Cheetor were basically the same, but different enough and each had their own toys.

Anyway, I'm still (naively) holding out that he will have a unique mold all to himself. Hopefully, the gray prototype mold provided earlier was to keep Smokescreen a secret.
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:52 pm

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Rhinox23 wrote:
Actually, I am not new on here. Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I completely understand and am familiar with how Hasbro repaints, remolds, retools previous molds to make additional figures. I am just bothered that they are doing this with a screen character.


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It seems that they may have done this in the past, but in more recent memory, screen characters usually get their own unique toy mold. I could be wrong (I'm sure someone will point out the ones I'm overlooking) but the past 3-4 TF shows have had unique toy molds. Now, these molds might later be turned into other remolds, etc. but they are for characters that have never, and will never, appear on the show itself.

I can't really think of any for TF Animated, Beast Wars, or Beast Machines.


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Anyway, I'm still (naively) holding out that he will have a unique mold all to himself. Hopefully, the gray prototype mold provided earlier was to keep Smokescreen a secret.


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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby lonrac » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:02 am

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Smokescreen onscreen image not bad....
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby RAcast » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:21 am

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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby RAcast » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:23 am

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RAcast wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Rhinox23 wrote:
Actually, I am not new on here. Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I completely understand and am familiar with how Hasbro repaints, remolds, retools previous molds to make additional figures. I am just bothered that they are doing this with a screen character.


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It seems that they may have done this in the past, but in more recent memory, screen characters usually get their own unique toy mold. I could be wrong (I'm sure someone will point out the ones I'm overlooking) but the past 3-4 TF shows have had unique toy molds. Now, these molds might later be turned into other remolds, etc. but they are for characters that have never, and will never, appear on the show itself.

I can't really think of any for TF Animated, Beast Wars, or Beast Machines.


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Anyway, I'm still (naively) holding out that he will have a unique mold all to himself. Hopefully, the gray prototype mold provided earlier was to keep Smokescreen a secret.


:-$

How did you forget TFA Bumblebee! xD There are like...fifty of him!
This page has apparently not been updated for Prime, I see.
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It's also worth noting, that BW Tigatron was a straight redeco of Cheetor.
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby Rhinox23 » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:40 am

RAcast wrote:
RAcast wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Rhinox23 wrote:
Actually, I am not new on here. Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I completely understand and am familiar with how Hasbro repaints, remolds, retools previous molds to make additional figures. I am just bothered that they are doing this with a screen character.


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It seems that they may have done this in the past, but in more recent memory, screen characters usually get their own unique toy mold. I could be wrong (I'm sure someone will point out the ones I'm overlooking) but the past 3-4 TF shows have had unique toy molds. Now, these molds might later be turned into other remolds, etc. but they are for characters that have never, and will never, appear on the show itself.

I can't really think of any for TF Animated, Beast Wars, or Beast Machines.


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Anyway, I'm still (naively) holding out that he will have a unique mold all to himself. Hopefully, the gray prototype mold provided earlier was to keep Smokescreen a secret.


:-$

How did you forget TFA Bumblebee! xD There are like...fifty of him!
This page has apparently not been updated for Prime, I see.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Body-type
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It's also worth noting, that BW Tigatron was a straight redeco of Cheetor.


Yeah, I guess that's true. I'll concede that point. To be honest, I never really watched TF Animated because it was a little too kiddie for me. I should have thought more about that before including that line in my explanation. I also agree that Tigatron was a redeco of Cheetor, but none of the other screen beasties were. :oops:

Again, although all the odds seem to be stacked against me, I hope Smokescreen gets his own mold! Either way, I'll still get his figure whenever he comes out. :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:04 am

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I see that fallacy still lingers. :roll:
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:10 am

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RAcast wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Rhinox23 wrote:
Actually, I am not new on here. Perhaps you misunderstood my point. I completely understand and am familiar with how Hasbro repaints, remolds, retools previous molds to make additional figures. I am just bothered that they are doing this with a screen character.


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It seems that they may have done this in the past, but in more recent memory, screen characters usually get their own unique toy mold. I could be wrong (I'm sure someone will point out the ones I'm overlooking) but the past 3-4 TF shows have had unique toy molds. Now, these molds might later be turned into other remolds, etc. but they are for characters that have never, and will never, appear on the show itself.

I can't really think of any for TF Animated, Beast Wars, or Beast Machines.


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Anyway, I'm still (naively) holding out that he will have a unique mold all to himself. Hopefully, the gray prototype mold provided earlier was to keep Smokescreen a secret.


:-$

How did you forget TFA Bumblebee! xD There are like...fifty of him!
This page has apparently not been updated for Prime, I see.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Body-type
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Because none of the other Bumblebee repaints got toys aside from Cliffjumper, whom was only an Activator, and Wasp, whom barely got a release. Were talking about repaints of toys that got on-screen appearances in recent years.

Also, I was just giving examples. Did you really want a post with over 1,000 pictures of different repaints and remolds that got on-screen appearances?
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby iguanabytes » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:20 pm

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Smokescreen looks like he combines bumblebee with knockout in appearance- bumblebee's shoulders and wings, with knockout's chest
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Re: Transformers Prime "New Recruit" Promo Clip

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:00 pm

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iguanabytes wrote:Smokescreen looks like he combines bumblebee with knockout in appearance- bumblebee's shoulders and wings, with knockout's chest


Actually, Smokescreen's torso and legs resemble that of Knock Out, with his arms and wings of Bumblebee.
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