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This is almost like it's trying to take the place of the prequel graphic novel comic. It matches up with the Decepticons' plans in that story, but the setting and circumstances are completely different.

In the comic, it was Cliffjumper who had captured and ordered to decrypt the message, not Arcee. And he was in a Decepticon base on Cyberton, not the Nemesis. And it was the Vehicons themselves doing the interrogating, not Starscream. and they didn't bring in another Autobot to try and force Cliff to decrypt the message. Arcee came in on her own and saved his rear end in the scuffle.

And if Shockwave's aboard the Nemesis here with them, when and how did he come aboard? He was left back on Cybertron during the Great Exodus, so he'd have to have come later. And if he is on the ship at the time of this clip's events, where is he in the present day and why is no longer on the ship?

Oy, why oh why must this episode contradict so much of the very comic that was made to lead directly into episode 1?!!

Sabrblade wrote:This is almost like it's trying to take the place of the prequel graphic novel comic. It matches up with the Decepticons' plans in that story, but the setting and circumstances are completely different.

In the comic, it was Cliffjumper who had captured and ordered to decrypt the message, not Arcee. And he was in a Decepticon base on Cyberton, not the Nemesis. And it was the Vehicons themselves doing the interrogating, not Starscream. and they didn't bring in another Autobot to try and force Cliff to decrypt the message. Arcee came in on her own and saved his rear end in the scuffle.

And if Shockwave's aboard the Nemesis here with them, when and how did he come aboard? He was left back on Cybertron during the Great Exodus, so he'd have to have come later. And if he is on the ship at the time of this clip's events, where is he in the present day and why is no longer on the ship?

Oy, why oh why must this episode contradict so much of the very comic that was made to lead directly into episode 1?!!

The clone wars kind of did this too, except the comic didn't directly tie in to anything, but i think the situations are the same in that we're meant to assume that the show supersedes the printed media. Plus they might tie in to the first episode yet, all they've shown is space footage.

Besides, If it is a direct adaptation, we might see Breakdown again Oh and as an aside, do we have any idea as to the identity of Cliff's voice actor? It sounds enough like Dwayne Johnson to possiblybbe him but disimilar enough to be another actor

PrymeStriker wrote:

Megatronsdemise666 wrote:I

PrymeStriker wrote:Anyway, I simply cannot wait longer for this episode. I want to see Shockie.

Megatronsdemise666 wrote:

RazorSlash92 wrote:This clip kinda makes me assume it isn't actually a flashback episode.

thts what these clips are for. Make you think the total opposite.

Remember before cliff dies he says ''scream been a while''. That line could be reffering to this time

So this must take place during megs is gone on vacation to find more buddies

Aside from making two posts, you can just edit the one you already put up.

i didnt wanna make twi. im on my phone and it just does that for some reason lol. sometimes it does

Mine too. Computers dominate phones when it comes to typing up forum posts.


But I digress.

yeah. lol

Hypershock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:This is almost like it's trying to take the place of the prequel graphic novel comic. It matches up with the Decepticons' plans in that story, but the setting and circumstances are completely different.

In the comic, it was Cliffjumper who had captured and ordered to decrypt the message, not Arcee. And he was in a Decepticon base on Cyberton, not the Nemesis. And it was the Vehicons themselves doing the interrogating, not Starscream. and they didn't bring in another Autobot to try and force Cliff to decrypt the message. Arcee came in on her own and saved his rear end in the scuffle.

And if Shockwave's aboard the Nemesis here with them, when and how did he come aboard? He was left back on Cybertron during the Great Exodus, so he'd have to have come later. And if he is on the ship at the time of this clip's events, where is he in the present day and why is no longer on the ship?

Oy, why oh why must this episode contradict so much of the very comic that was made to lead directly into episode 1?!!

The clone wars kind of did this too, except the comic didn't directly tie in to anything, but i think the situations are the same in that we're meant to assume that the show supersedes the printed media. Plus they might tie in to the first episode yet, all they've shown is space footage.

Besides, If it is a direct adaptation, we might see Breakdown again Oh and as an aside, do we have any idea as to the identity of Cliff's voice actor? It sounds enough like Dwayne Johnson to possiblybbe him but disimilar enough to be another actor

Oh Breakdown. Why, oh, why do the writers hate you so?

Breakdown better come back soon, or else I'll....I'll....

Write a strongly worded letter!

Well, shucks. Here i got all excited that they might be using Makeshift as leverage, posing as a Dead Cliffy, but you guys have comics to back it up.

I suppose it could be a protoform, though...

dedcat wrote:"Hi kids, I'm Cliffjumper. Remember me from the first minute of the first episode? Please buy my toy!"

"And buy them they will Cliff! Oh have I forgotten to say that Jack's back? Well now he'll sell with Bargainbee left behind, clogging the shelves! "

Flashwave wrote:Well, shucks. Here i got all excited that they might be using Makeshift as leverage, posing as a Dead Cliffy, but you guys have comics to back it up.

I suppose it could be a protoform, though...

Well, Makeshift is dead too, so it couldn't have been that anyway.

What? Who could be a protoform?

PrymeStriker wrote:

Flashwave wrote:Well, shucks. Here i got all excited that they might be using Makeshift as leverage, posing as a Dead Cliffy, but you guys have comics to back it up.

I suppose it could be a protoform, though...

Well, Makeshift is dead too, so it couldn't have been that anyway.

What? Who could be a protoform?

Lol you find out makeshift put a bomb o the real wheeljack and shoved him through the griund bridge to the decepticon ship.

Btw those comics shouldnt be taken as canon. I would want the cartoon to show all the history between characters. Especially the dinos

Megatronsdemise666 wrote:Btw those comics shouldnt be taken as canon. I would want the cartoon to show all the history between characters. Especially the dinos

Canon: Anything officially licensed by Hasbro and/or TakaraTomy.

And, as the video games, novels, and other comics have clearly shown, the cartoon is obviously not going to show the entirety of the history. Look at Makeshift, for example. The show killed him off, so it was up to Exiles to flesh him out and explore his character.