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Glad I ordered the FE Voyagers and Cliffjumper from eBay last week. I paid almost twice what I'd have paid if these had hit U.S. retail. However, judging from these pictures illustrating just how bad RID CJ is compared to FE CJ, then I can see the FE prices going up in the near future.

I like the FE one better, but since Hasbro has decided to make it nearly impossible to find them in the U.S., I guess I don't have a choice.

Thanks for the comparison.

I ordered the last Takara FE Cliffjumper from BBTS based on this review.

I like the stockiness of the RID mold. (Oh great, now all my friends will think I'm refering to the original RID) But I also like the proportions on the FE version.

If they scaled the RID one to a larger size, I'd buy it.


Oh my brain hurts!!

Rated X wrote:Why did Hasbro/Takara waste their resources to create two different molds of the same characters instead of producing more characters ??? what a complete waste of effort and plastic. And then they complain when 3rd parties give fans the characters they really want.

I was wondering the exact same thing. But perhaps they were forced to change the line after the FEs were designed, or maybe the designers went above and beyond what Hasbro wanted. Then they saw how good the designs were and went "You know what, these are really good and you guys worked hard on them. Even though it's not what we planned for the line, we'll try to get them a release anyway." I guess if you think about it like that, we should be really grateful they still released them anyway. At least, those who were lucky enough to get the First Editions...

As for the comparison, even though RID is more screen accurate in some ways, I'm glad I managed to pick up the FE. He really benefits from the black in robot mode and the tinted windows in vehicle mode, and of course the more complex transformation. RID also suffers from some pretty bad monkey arms, whereas the FE one is not as bad.

A lot of folks are complaining about the scale and yes, it does suck that Hasbro/Takara are giving us less toy and not lowering the cost accordingly but that's just how it goes folks. We should feel lucky they haven't pulled this on us sooner. Myself, I like how it keeps the figures in more of the same general "feel" as their G1 counterparts. The mini-cars were always supposed to be smaller and having this guy close to the same size as Windcharger adds to the G1 feel. I'm only going to be keeping this guy in his vehicle mode anyways since I love the alt mode they chose for him and absolutely despise that Primus-forsaken, butt-ugly red gorilla like excuse for a robot mode.
He certainly won't be a replacement for my Classics CJ and I can't say as I care for the whole horns on the hood gimmick but I like the classic muscle car styling enough that I can handle dropping just over $10.00 for this thing. I may actually buy 2 just because that alt-mode is begging to have a more traditional muscle car paint app. either in black or deep metal-flake blue just to do it some justice.

This is the worst piece of garbage since Beast Machines Nightscream.

I mean... just... Sweet Tapdancing Jesus this f*ucking sucks.

RID seems to be such a downgrade from FE...why would they do this?

Call me out of the loop, but why the impending doom about the First Editions? Something seems odd here.

Is it just me or do the robots in disquise versions really blow compaired to the first editions.