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The Cyberverse Ironhide does look significantly different, in all of the right ways, and Irohide is my Child hood favorite, so I'm hoping he gets a good deluxe, voyager, and/or leader size figure.

But as for this new head mold, it is one hell of a longshot, BUT I HOPE IT'S TF PRIME'S KUP!!!!!!!!!

I know Ratchet is kind of already filling that whole Kup persona, but G1 Ratchet was cranky like that too. Kup would be sweet in TF Prime.

Sabrblade wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:With Bulkhead coming almost straight out of Animated, I'm going to guess animated Sentinel. Preliminary, but there it is.

He's dead, Jim.

At this juncture I would like play the "Timelines" card and negate your logic.

Aligned Sentinel Prime = Aligned Zeta Prime. Sentinel Zeta Prime is dead.

And I doubt Hasbro would make two same-named individuals this time in this continuity (unless there's some super special reason given for such a case).

they've already got 2 completely different Bumblebees; WFC and Prime.

BlackRodimusConvoy wrote:The Cyberverse Ironhide does look significantly different, in all of the right ways, and Irohide is my Child hood favorite, so I'm hoping he gets a good deluxe, voyager, and/or leader size figure.

But as for this new head mold, it is one hell of a longshot, BUT I HOPE IT'S TF PRIME'S KUP!!!!!!!!!

I know Ratchet is kind of already filling that whole Kup persona, but G1 Ratchet was cranky like that too. Kup would be sweet in TF Prime.

Now that's interesting too! Kup would be awesome. He'd already popped up in an easter egg in the DS version of War for Cybertron, so who knows...

Sabrblade wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:Although Universe 2.0 aand Generations are different lines, they are very closely related, and examples of legend versus deluxe of one character have varied as much as gavinfuzzy has suggested:

Not totally the same thing, but close.

Prime is a different line altogether. They wouldn't just make two entirely different looks for the same character. That would leave one of the two being show-accurate, and the other not. Deluxe Ironhide will most likely look a lot like Cyberverse Ironhide.

Neither Deluxe Ironhide nor Cyberverse Ironhide, nor any million or so other potential size classes and designs will be show accurate, if he doesn't turn up on the show.

or it could be just a repaint/retool kind of like the up coming hotshot toy, hotshot was neither in the show or dead. some one not in the show or dead. but just for the sake of having a repaint.retool

more repaints... already?

GetRightRobot wrote:Not many fans have been able to get their hands on the Transformers Prime Robots in Disguise Deluxe Ratchet. However, if you have been lucky enough to score one, you may want to open up the instruction sheet. Their appears to be a new head on Ratchet for the inevitable repaint. Take a look at the pics below or click here to view the original post by Junior over at TFW2005.com

has no one ever thought that it could have been a prototype head that they used before the final design was rendered up?

lets rule out the following then;

Ironhide has a new mould in the cyberverse line, so they have already established that they could upscale that mould and release it as part of the main figure line. In fact its easier to make a smaller scale model and then upscale it with the computer software, as the 3x or 5x upscale is where its designed on the computer.

Ratchet's new look head could be a prototype - or it could be a screwup with the image (mostlikely a screw up with the image department in producing the instruction scans being the better option.)

if it is a repaint, then i have a feeling that it will be either a non descript decepticon, or they will be reusing the name to protect the i.p/copyright of the name. i guess its the waiting game

10 bucks on Red Alert.

Sabrblade wrote:]Young Ratchet looked like this.

I'll see that and raise you:

Im putting my money on a head mold for Botcon 2013 with Prime Figures.

Hoist.

craggy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:With Bulkhead coming almost straight out of Animated, I'm going to guess animated Sentinel. Preliminary, but there it is.

He's dead, Jim.

At this juncture I would like play the "Timelines" card and negate your logic.

Aligned Sentinel Prime = Aligned Zeta Prime. Sentinel Zeta Prime is dead.

And I doubt Hasbro would make two same-named individuals this time in this continuity (unless there's some super special reason given for such a case).

they've already got 2 completely different Bumblebees; WFC and Prime.

WFC Bumblebee = Prime Bumblebee. WFC Bumblebee loses his voice (in two differently documented ways, but he does lose it).

Starscream GaGa wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Young Ratchet looked like this.

I'll see that and raise you:

Artistic liberties due to two different animation studios and art styles.

Plus, it's told from Ratchet, who was not present during any of the events he described in that flashback to witness them personally.

Here's what Orion Pax and Megatronus/Megatron really looked like back then:

Baneblade wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:Not many fans have been able to get their hands on the Transformers Prime Robots in Disguise Deluxe Ratchet. However, if you have been lucky enough to score one, you may want to open up the instruction sheet. Their appears to be a new head on Ratchet for the inevitable repaint. Take a look at the pics below or click here to view the original post by Junior over at TFW2005.com

has no one ever thought that it could have been a prototype head that they used before the final design was rendered up?

lets rule out the following then;

Ironhide has a new mould in the cyberverse line, so they have already established that they could upscale that mould and release it as part of the main figure line. In fact its easier to make a smaller scale model and then upscale it with the computer software, as the 3x or 5x upscale is where its designed on the computer.

Ratchet's new look head could be a prototype - or it could be a screwup with the image (mostlikely a screw up with the image department in producing the instruction scans being the better option.)

if it is a repaint, then i have a feeling that it will be either a non descript decepticon, or they will be reusing the name to protect the i.p/copyright of the name. i guess its the waiting game

why would they have a complete design of a figure and design a new head just to not use it?

the same thing happened with wfc cliffjumper, wfc bumblebee had cliffs head in the insturctions and thereby revealed wfc cliffjumper

Could be a horrible Breakdown repaint.

Godzillabot Primal wrote:Could be a horrible Breakdown repaint.

But it's the Ratchet mold.

I'm still continuing to treat WFC/FOC and Prime as two different continuities, regardless of what Hasbro states. They're just too different to me.

But anyway, I have no idea who this could be. I'm guessing some random new character, but it's possible they could surprise us.

Godzillabot Primal wrote:Could be a horrible Breakdown repaint.

nah, breakdown's more squarish, he has a lot of angles

My guess is Trailbreaker or Perceptor

Flatline!

I have no Idea who this might be.

Hypershock wrote:

Godzillabot Primal wrote:Could be a horrible Breakdown repaint.

nah, breakdown's more squarish, he has a lot of angles

Good point, maybe Gears? They are going to have to do some none-cartoon characters in order to keep this toyline afloat

Godzillabot Primal wrote:

Hypershock wrote:

Godzillabot Primal wrote:Could be a horrible Breakdown repaint.

nah, breakdown's more squarish, he has a lot of angles

Good point, maybe Gears? They are going to have to do some none-cartoon characters in order to keep this toyline afloat

if it is a repaint with a different head sculpt, then it might be traibreaker/trailblazer/trail-whateverigiveup

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this.... but he looks like Red Alert from the Unicron Trilogy.

2002 — Ratchet the Japanese Micron Legend name for Armada Red Alert.

Sabrblade wrote:Artistic liberties due to two different animation studios and art styles.

That can be used against your reason for that not being Cybertron Ratchet too, although I personally think its highly unlikely that they'd make a Cybertron Ratchet that has an Earth alt-mode and a completely different head.

I know that's what they looked like in the Exodus comic (although they called it WFC), but I don't think that represents what they would've looked like in Prime. They were just cashing in on WFC.

kirbenvost wrote:I'm still continuing to treat WFC/FOC and Prime as two different continuities, regardless of what Hasbro states. They're just too different to me.

WFC is completely incompatible with Prime. Exodus is slightly more compatible if you are REALLY lenient with what you are willing to ignore the large amount of continuity differences. But I suppose that's OK because Exodus was TERRIBLY written and contradicts itself constantly throughout the novel. Anyway, WFC is NOT the same story as Exodus, despite what Hasbro says. They are completely different having far less similarities than differences to each other. Hasbro's whole aligned continuity is stupid and I believe should just be ignored.

Sorry! I went off topic there, but was just putting my two cents in.

It's going to be Rescue Bumlbebee.