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by **KUMA-NIN Maximus** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:25 pm

Bubbah wrote:You know, if Starscream is after it, it could have something to do with his missing T-cog. Maybe it allows for part regeneration or can be used in place of the T-cog.

iguanabytes wrote:I thought he was shown to have replaced his T-cog out of one of his clones?

What iguanabytes said is true. He obtained a new T-Cog from one of his clones. However, he was last seen about to do the process when another event came up. And that ended up giving him the new armor upgrade.

However, even with the new T-Cog and armor at hand, he does need Energon to survive. And with him being the enemy of both the Autobots and Decepticons, he has nobody but himself to rely on when it comes to obtaining what he needs.

Besides... I have a feeling like he is going to be the one who finds Airachnia's severed piece at some point and make a clone of her from that piece. And with her actual self in stasis, he will end up having a pawn that could help him control the Insecticons... Which would help him get his revenge.

News Credits: 10 · by **PrymeStriker** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:34 pm

iguanabytes wrote:I thought he was shown to have replaced his T-cog out of one of his clones?

Well, yes and no. He took it, but got interrupted by the relics. I don't know if it's been confirmed if he finished the installation, considering he used a hover-scooter to mobilize in the Antarctic. He's just got badass Apex Armor now.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Besides... I have a feeling like he is going to be the one who finds Airachnia's severed piece at some point and make a clone of her from that piece. And with her actual self in stasis, he will end up having a pawn that could help him control the Insecticons... Which would help him get his revenge.

I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

by **Bubbah** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:26 pm

PrimeStriker wrote:
iguanabytes wrote:I thought he was shown to have replaced his T-cog out of one of his clones?

Well, yes and no. He took it, but got interrupted by the relics. I don't know if it's been confirmed if he finished the installation, considering he used a hover-scooter to mobilize in the Antarctic. He's just got badass Apex Armor

See that's what I thought too, he had access to the T-cog but he's been unable to install it yet. Plus come to think of it, he may need some help installing that bad boy haha. There's gotta be something speficially about Red Energon that they have SS going after it instead of anyone else. Unless maybe it's a super concentrate type Energon to help power the Apex Armor.

by **KUMA-NIN Maximus** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:33 pm

PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

The case here is tied to that fact that the writers created a "bookmark" - As in a scene for us to remember at a later date. In this case, the scene where a piece of Airachnid is flung off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBlRc8_q8gw

That, and Arcee does not know that Starscream possesses Cybertronian cloning technology. Bulkhead might, but I do not think he has realized it yet. And Megatron does, but does not seem to care much for its usefulness.

Which pretty much means that unless Arcee snuck that piece in with her (as I do not recall if any of the Autobots were in possession of it) as a trophy, Starscream will find it and use it for his revenge.

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology. :???:

by **Bubbah** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:54 pm

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

The case here is tied to that fact that the writers created a "bookmark" - As in a scene for us to remember at a later date. In this case, the scene where a piece of Airachnid is flung off.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBlRc8_q8gw[/youtube]

That, and Arcee does not know that Starscream possesses Cybertronian cloning technology. Bulkhead might, but I do not think he has realized it yet. And Megatron does, but does not seem to care much for its usefulness.

Which pretty much means that unless Arcee snuck that piece in with her (as I do not recall if any of the Autobots were in possession of it) as a trophy, Starscream will find it and use it for his revenge.

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

Just remember though, it's not a pure cloning machine ... He still needs blank protoforms in order to be able to clone, and in that episode he used all 5 to create his armada. So unless he's got spares, he's out of luck. We haven't seen for sure whether he does or not, so it's pure speculation on my part.

News Credits: 10 · by **PrymeStriker** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:58 pm

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

They could clone Breakdown. I wouldn't consider Breakdown the same though, even if he has all of his old memories :-(

News Credits: 35 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:25 pm

PrimeStriker wrote:
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

They could clone Breakdown. I wouldn't consider Breakdown the same though, even if he has all of his old memories

Your know, cloning Breakdown would be an interesting way to introduce Swerve (unless he's just another toy-only guy).

News Credits: 10 · by **PrymeStriker** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:31 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

They could clone Breakdown. I wouldn't consider Breakdown the same though, even if he has all of his old memories
Your know, cloning Breakdown would be an interesting way to introduce Swerve (unless he's just another toy-only guy).

The only way we'll ever get a toy of Swerve in the U.S is if Hasbro makes their own Breakdown mold. Remember, they're too cheap to take off the AM ports on Breakdown, let-alone Swerve. :-(

News Credits: 35 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:45 pm

PrimeStriker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

They could clone Breakdown. I wouldn't consider Breakdown the same though, even if he has all of his old memories
Your know, cloning Breakdown would be an interesting way to introduce Swerve (unless he's just another toy-only guy).

The only way we'll ever get a toy of Swerve in the U.S is if Hasbro makes their own Breakdown mold. Remember, they're too cheap to take off the AM ports on Breakdown, let-alone Swerve.

I meant "introduce Swerve" in the cartoon. He'd just be a toyless character in the U.S.

News Credits: 10 · by **PrymeStriker** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:48 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

They could clone Breakdown. I wouldn't consider Breakdown the same though, even if he has all of his old memories
Your know, cloning Breakdown would be an interesting way to introduce Swerve (unless he's just another toy-only guy).

The only way we'll ever get a toy of Swerve in the U.S is if Hasbro makes their own Breakdown mold. Remember, they're too cheap to take off the AM ports on Breakdown, let-alone Swerve.
I meant "introduce Swerve" in the cartoon. He'd just be a toyless character in the U.S.

Yeah, I understand. I was just responding to "(unless he's just another toy-only guy)."

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