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well they have reused skyquake's and cliff's modals as dreadwing and tailgate. hey guys what if it is tailgate and he wasn't really killed by archined (i am making fun of her name on purpose so dont correct me)who is to say it cant be hotshot or brawn we did get a toy of him in Asia using bulkheads mold.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:well they have reused skyquake's and cliff's modals as dreadwing and tailgate. hey guys what if it is tailgate and he wasn't really killed by archined (i am making fun of her name on purpose so dont correct me)who is to say it cant be hotshot or brawn we did get a toy of him in Asia using bulkheads mold.

Hate to burst your bubble there, but according to Hasbro, that version of Brawn is supposed to be G1. In the words of Animated Slipstream, "Don't ask."

I don't get the reference of Airachnid's misspelling.

Mindmaster wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:well they have reused skyquake's and cliff's modals as dreadwing and tailgate. hey guys what if it is tailgate and he wasn't really killed by archined (i am making fun of her name on purpose so dont correct me)who is to say it cant be hotshot or brawn we did get a toy of him in Asia using bulkheads mold.

Hate to burst your bubble there, but according to Hasbro, that version of Brawn is supposed to be G1. In the words of Animated Slipstream, "Don't ask."

I don't get the reference of Airachnid's misspelling.

i know he is g1 but who knows i am just making calculations (puts on shockwave costume and cuts out one eye)

i hate her thats why i misspelled her name she does not deserve it after what she did to tailgate.

iguanabytes wrote:Dreadwing is far more interesting as an honorable bad guy than he would be as a good guy. and then there's the name.

it's like having a paramedic show up whose nametag reads "fleshripper babymaimer"- are you really gonna let him help you?

Like letting someone named Inferno help deal with putting out fires?

If they're with the good guys, yeah.

iguanabytes wrote:well, if we are going for align continuity, and including those works...


How about Silverbolt? he's a flyer, and is prominently featured

REALLY enjoying the lively discussion, BTW

Yes, there are many Aerialbots (Jetfire, Air Raid, and Silverbolt seem to be the only named ones though. Unless the Air Raid Shockwave repaint at SDCC was a failed name on the card, Fireflight would be a named one as well). I was just giving a couple examples for Autobot flyers.

It would really seal the deal if all 3 of them appeared.

PrimeStriker wrote:I didn't say Rodimus couldn't be in Prime. However, my point is that he is not going to be Hot Rod nor Hot Shot, as it would not make any chronological sense.

Actually, you said "There is no Hot Rod in the Aligned Continuity." without explaining what you mean by that. And with Hot Rod being Hasbro's original G1 version of Rodimus, he does have a chance of fitting in the series... But only as a Wrecker.

As for Hot Shot, Hasbro did make it clear that he does fit in the PRIME portion of the continuity, as it is their series and continuity. However, as I also said, I think that he would be a poor choice on the grounds that having another warrior-type ground vehicle would be a mistake. Granted, who he is fits the Japanese version of the series. Just not this version.

And besides, I think if they made it be Jetfire, it would end up being a smart move on their behalf simply because he has so many attributes that could add more to the Autobot side (and maybe give me a second character to like as well).

PrimeStriker wrote:And the Aligned Continuity covers ALL of the games, novels, and shows involved. There is only one Aligned Continuity, that covers Exouds, WFC, FOC, Exiles, Prime, and Rescue Bots in chronological order. Prime isn't an Aligned Continuity, it is an apparatus of the Aligned Continuity.

Okay... Prime? Let me stop you right there. You are telling this to a guy who has been a fan of the franchise since the 1980s. So while I pretty much have the entire Takara Tomy G1 continuity and its offspring memorized, it helps me understand how this works. So all I will say is that you misused a word to describe PRIME, as the definition of that word describes the "Arms Microns" line in Japan.

Plus, with both Hasbro and Takara Tomy having a similar history on how they handled Generation 1, it is easy to say that PRIME is the core continuity... And that Exodus would be best tied to the Generations toyline, Cybertron be treated as a game-based continuity, and Resuce Bots be the series that was based in 1984 (according to Hasbro's Aligned timeline, as stated in TFwiki).

Oh... And also, I follow Takara Tomy's stuff. So pretty much for me, when it comes to the Aligned continuity, it is solely just PRIME, Arms Microns, and Cybertron Satellite.

Not gonna read through the whole thread, but Red Energon could be like a Primeverse version of the Hate Plague.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:I didn't say Rodimus couldn't be in Prime. However, my point is that he is not going to be Hot Rod nor Hot Shot, as it would not make any chronological sense.

Actually, you said "There is no Hot Rod in the Aligned Continuity." without explaining what you mean by that. And with Hot Rod being Hasbro's original G1 version of Rodimus, he does have a chance of fitting in the series... But only as a Wrecker.

Okay, there could not be a character in Prime named "Hot Rod" because of:
A) They no longer have the rights to that name
B) Hot Rod is not the name of any character in the Aligned Continuity, 'nor is it possible because of Hot Shot's standing in the continuity.

Clear enough?

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Okay... Prime? Let me stop you right there. You are telling this to a guy who has been a fan of the franchise since the 1980s. So while I pretty much have the entire Takara Tomy G1 continuity and its offspring memorized, it helps me understand how this works. So all I will say is that you misused a word to describe PRIME, as the definition of that word describes the "Arms Microns" line in Japan.

Prime is a part of the Aligned Continuity family. Yep, I used the wrong word, but my point still remains: The Aligned Continuity is it's own continuity family, as Generation One, Animated, The Unicron Trilogy, the Live Action Series, etc. all have their own continuities. You cannot say that Exodus, WFC, FOC and Exiles occurred, then four billion years later they woke up in the Ark and met a couple of humans named Spike & Sparkplug Witwicky. They aren't part of the same continuity family.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Plus, with both Hasbro and Takara Tomy having a similar history on how they handled Generation 1, it is easy to say that PRIME is the core continuity... And that Exodus would be best tied to the Generations toyline, Cybertron be treated as a game-based continuity, and Resuce Bots be the series that was based in 1984 (according to Hasbro's Aligned timeline, as stated in TFwiki).

Oh... And also, I follow Takara Tomy's stuff. So pretty much for me, when it comes to the Aligned continuity, it is solely just PRIME, Arms Microns, and Cybertron Satellite.

Okay, well, as far as Hasbro's concerned, Hot Shot couldn't be in the Prime cartoon. I do not care if he's in the toyline, because the toyline and cartoon can and guaranteed will have a different prospective from one another.

And also, I, like many others, follow Hasbro's Aligned Continuity Family, which seems to be the largest. We could not have a Hot Rod character in the U.S or in Prime. Rodimus Prime is the succession of Hot Rod. I also know about the G1 continuity, and please don't try to think that you have some superiority because you've been a fan since the 1980s. It puts a lot of fans who haven't down.

Okay, looks like I DO have to read through this thread, as I seems I've missed out on an interesting conversation.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Actually, you said "There is no Hot Rod in the Aligned Continuity." without explaining what you mean by that. And with Hot Rod being Hasbro's original G1 version of Rodimus, he does have a chance of fitting in the series... But only as a Wrecker.

What PrimeStriker is saying is that, in this continuity, Rodimus = Hot Shot, not Hot Rod.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:As for Hot Shot, Hasbro did make it clear that he does fit in the PRIME portion of the continuity, as it is their series and continuity. However, as I also said, I think that he would be a poor choice on the grounds that having another warrior-type ground vehicle would be a mistake. Granted, who he is fits the Japanese version of the series. Just not this version.

Um... what about him makes him fit into Japanese TF: Prime but not American TF: Prime?

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Plus, with both Hasbro and Takara Tomy having a similar history on how they handled Generation 1, it is easy to say that PRIME is the core continuity... And that Exodus would be best tied to the Generations toyline, Cybertron be treated as a game-based continuity, and Resuce Bots be the series that was based in 1984 (according to Hasbro's Aligned timeline, as stated in TFwiki).

On Prime, it is not G1. It is a separate continuity (the Aligned Continuity)

On Exodus, it is tied to both War for Cybertron (as it tells the same basic story) and the Prime cartoon (as episode 26 flashed back to it).

On the video games, they are the ancient history era of the Prime cartoon's universe.

On Rescue Bots, it takes place in the same present day as Prime. As the very person who added all the Rescue Bots info into the Aligned Timeline TFWiki page, I can say that any Rescue Bots info on the page that takes place prior to the present was added in from either flashbacks or plot exposition of past events from the present day characters.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Oh... And also, I follow Takara Tomy's stuff. So pretty much for me, when it comes to the Aligned continuity, it is solely just PRIME, Arms Microns, and Cybertron Satellite.

Well, then that's not our problem. The Aligned Continuity is HASBRO'S baby, not TakaraTomy's. TakaraTomy has contributed minimal bits to the Aligned continuity compared to Hasbro. Between the two of them, it's Hasbro who has the higher say when it comes to the Aligned Continuity since they the ones who created and are developing it.