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Sabrblade wrote:Wait, WHAT?! When was THAT ever said? That's utter nonsense.

Sabrblade wrote:What is wrong with you? The guy from War for Cybertron IS Sentinel Zeta Prime. "Sentinel" is his title, while "Zeta" is his name (with "Prime" being his rank).

Sabrblade wrote:Technically, "Team Magnus", the Wreckers, are a disbanded bunch, so they are a team no longer.

Mindmaster wrote:One phrase for the above arguments: my head hurts.

I don't know who got served more, Sabrblade the human encyclopedia or K-N Maximus, a guy we barely know who seems to know his stuff. Clash of the titans here folks! Tune in next week for round two!

Bubbah wrote:I for one can't wait to see the new episodes. Sure the series has had it's ups and down (they all do), but overall I'm really liking it and I'm really excited to see the new character. I love all the nods and easter eggs being referenced to all the other series, even while this one stands on its own. Personally I'm thinking the new character is either Magnus or Kup but I'm certainly not going to complain regardless of who it is, I'm just happy new episodes are resuming!

Mindmaster wrote:

Bubbah wrote:I for one can't wait to see the new episodes. Sure the series has had it's ups and down (they all do), but overall I'm really liking it and I'm really excited to see the new character. I love all the nods and easter eggs being referenced to all the other series, even while this one stands on its own. Personally I'm thinking the new character is either Magnus or Kup but I'm certainly not going to complain regardless of who it is, I'm just happy new episodes are resuming!

This. This is the words of a fan. Why can't we all
Be like this? -starts humming Kumbaya-

PrimeStriker wrote:A) Yes, they did. Which is why they were able to produce a toy of Hot Rod AND Rodimus Prime.

B) Yes, true. Nobody in the series so far has been named Hot Rod. And if you were so kind enough as to research your sources you would know that Hasbro said themselves, and I quote:

Aaron Archer wrote:According to Aaron Archer at the BotCon 2010 Activision panel, the character was named "Hot Shot" due to "Hot Rod" being an unprotectable name. Hasbro later revealed that they didn't name him Rodimus because they wanted fans to see how he became Rodimus.

I did my research. It states that when Hasbro was doing the Commemorative Series, they planned to reissue Hot Rod. However, both coyright and trademark laws have changed since The Rebirth and that time, which made them change it numerous times in hope of protecting their rights with said character. However, IDW pretty much disregarded that with Spotlight: Hot Rod. And Takara Tomy also used the name Hot Rod for the Henkei! line... Even though we know the character as Hot Shot.

As for the two figures, Hasbro licensed Takara to make them without going into detail that they would be the same character. Once they did, Takara was rumored to not be happy while making a new mold.

PrimeStriker wrote:Wow, are you seriously....ugh. Hasbro can and does make characters specifically for a toyline, not to appear in a show or movie. Not every character that is a goddamn toy is going to appear in the show. The argument that he has a character model is invalid, as it's only a repaint (with a different head) of the Bumblebee action pose we've all seen.

We've gotten people such as Wreckage (in the Movie toyline), Armorhide (in the Cybertron toyline), and many other characters part of the main toyline that never got references nor screen-time in the show or movie their toylines hailed from.

The movie line included characters that were to be added to the movies, but were not. Plus, they molested my fandom. However, excluding that, every character placed in their main G1 and Animated lines have made some kind of appearance in said series.

HOWEVER... The only line I see as Hasbro's dumping ground for characters that will not appear in the series are in their Cyberverse line. Beyond that, if the character has a history that is not retconned by the series, my writer instincts predict that they will be used.

PrimeStriker wrote:I'm not trying to talk down to you, but you're making statements that weren't carefully researched, and they're coming out to be wrong.

That is the problem, you do not know me... Yet you act like I am a noob on the subject. I mean, dude... I do constant research on every character and series that does interest me. I do this at a near-obsessive level, especially when it comes to the progress of PRIME. Simply because I refuse to own a character, or a variation of a character, that does not interest me in the series.

And it is both the reason why I concluded that Hot Shot may be either the guest character or mentioned in a flashback... Is not the new main cast member... And comes off being tied to a story element in season 3.

Oh... And the reason why Rescue Robots disinterested me was because it is aimed at a 3-5 year old demographic. The rest was because WFC and PRIME stopped matching up on its facts by the end of the first season, and IDW announced a Dinobots limited series that ties FOC with PRIME.

PrimeStriker wrote:It's hard to rant on the facts when your facts aren't aligned, no pun intended. I'm sorry if I sound rude, but I'm simply defending a continuity that I find very, very interesting. And the factions we favor shouldn't affect our Transformers Fan Brotherhood.

Actually... I originally wanted to apologize if I did misunderstand you when it came to "Hot Rod." However, this mess happened and I spent most of my free time wondering "Why are they assuming things about me? Why not just get to know me by PM?" instead of the topic at hand.

And besides... PRIME is my #2 animated (#3 overall) series for a reason. So when it comes to the series, yeah... I treat it as its own continuity while using elements from the games, book, etc. as references.

PrimeStriker wrote:Hot Shot could appear in Prime, but my point is that there would be a major continuity hole if he did unless he was Rodimus (not saying this continuity doesn't have holes within itself already). And by the way they're tagging us along with a secret Autobot these days, the "friend" and "new recruit" we're hearing about has a 52% chance of turning out to be Wheeljack.

Bubbah wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Bubbah wrote:I for one can't wait to see the new episodes. Sure the series has had it's ups and down (they all do), but overall I'm really liking it and I'm really excited to see the new character. I love all the nods and easter eggs being referenced to all the other series, even while this one stands on its own. Personally I'm thinking the new character is either Magnus or Kup but I'm certainly not going to complain regardless of who it is, I'm just happy new episodes are resuming!

This. This is the words of a fan. Why can't we all
Be like this? -starts humming Kumbaya-

thanks, but don't make me setup a campfire ... I'll do it too! Haha

And I'm all for debate, etc but there does come a time when things get TOO serious. In the end this is a hobby based off a cartoon. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE this hobby and have since I was a kid growing up with G1, but it's still a hobby (albeit an expensive one sometimes lol). And especially when it comes to continuity, there will always be debate but one thing we all have to remember is that every single timeline/continuity has holes and inconsistancies ... It's bound to happen unfortunately.