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bward wrote:Per the press release at the head of this thread, both the DVD and Blu-ray collections are 4-disc sets and there are 26 episodes in the first season, so I'm not sure how that boils down to 4-5 episodes each.

Well, I just noticed that the upper cited bitrate was ~20% more than the lower cited bitrate, which would only make sense if some discs had 20% more episodes than the others. However, I just now realized that if you're doing 6-7 episodes per disc, then the difference in bitrates would be ~17%, which is also pretty close to the spread that you gave.

bward wrote:Outside of a simple desire to skip anything but the opening titles, I can't really see why you'd want the opening as its own chapter. Presumably, you'd watch the teaser and--at most--skip the opening titles.

Again, you're thinking in terms of TV users... some of us are going to end up with 26 copies of the opening credits on our hard drives, when we really only need one copy.

Purely for private home exhibition, of course.

bward wrote:A bit condescending; don't you think? How do you know I'm not one of those people?

I don't know for sure, but it was strongly indicated by the vagueness of your response about the quantization matrices. It's not condescending, either. I was referring to the most extreme enthusiasts, the people who want to compress Superman II: the Richard Donner Cut down to a 699 MB Matroska file with Ogg Vorbis audio and absolutely, positively, have to make it look as perfect as possible within those parameters. There are different pressures at work when you have the luxury of encoding something at 6 MBPS and you're restricted to DVD-compatible MPEG-2.

cotss2012 wrote:On a completely unrelated note, "Bitstream" would make an awesome name for a Transformer.

There is one. He's a Decepticon Seeker.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:I bought the Darkness Rising movie and will purchase the blu-ray complete series in March. I will get my $10 worth between now and March. It's a great movie.

Me too. Just bought it as well (though, I scratched the slipcase a bit trying to get the stickers off ). Now I will wait for the season 1 relase in March (though, I 'm not sure if I want the Blu-Ray or DVD since, while Blu-Ray is better, its price is outrageous).

Sabrblade wrote:

cotss2012 wrote:On a completely unrelated note, "Bitstream" would make an awesome name for a Transformer.

There is one. He's a Decepticon Seeker.

Licensed fanfictions (which is basically what written continuities amount to) don't count.

cotss2012 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cotss2012 wrote:On a completely unrelated note, "Bitstream" would make an awesome name for a Transformer.

There is one. He's a Decepticon Seeker.

Licensed fanfictions (which is basically what written continuities amount to) don't count.

What are you talking about?

I'm talking about the fact that any Joe Dumbass can write a Transformers book with little or no oversight from Hasbro as long as they get the license, so they might as well be fanfics, whereas the "screen" continuities are much more collaborative, "professional", and planned out with more involvement from Hasbro.

cotss2012 wrote:I'm talking about the fact that any Joe Dumbass can write a Transformers book with little or no oversight from Hasbro as long as they get the license, so they might as well be fanfics, whereas the "screen" continuities are much more collaborative, "professional", and planned out with more involvement from Hasbro.

I disagree. If anything, the shows are less about the characters and their stories as it is about promoting the brand and its product line compared to the comics. Not to mention, the writers of these "fan-fictions" know WAY more about everything Transformers than most of the people involved with making the shows. Speaking generally of course, but the shows were more targeted towards kids, where as the comics are targeted to both kids and adults (obvious from the gratuitous violence in some panels).

Exodus isn't a comic, dude.

cotss2012 wrote:Exodus isn't a comic, dude.

Well, comics are also continuities, so I thought you were referring to them all, but alright, including the books. My point still remains.

The movies were overseen directly by hasbro yet its tottaly ****ed story wise/continuity wise. I don't see how things like comics or books with their own unique take can differ in acceptance when Hasbro's own various TF shows are so wildly different from each other. If they themselves don't take the subject matter so seriously, kinda hard to understand why you'd default to the shows being the defining material for acceptance. But whatever I guess. Comics still pwn the shows (can't comment on the books as I haven't read them). With that attitude, you probably don't get to enjoy some of the well written mosaics on here... I love them coz they add even more lore to parts of a story that haven't been fully told/explained, and I accept them as kosher (until a better explanation comes along, haha).

If you consider multiple dimensions, everything is possible... every fan fic is real.

cotss2012 wrote:I'm talking about the fact that any Joe Dumbass can write a Transformers book with little or no oversight from Hasbro as long as they get the license, so they might as well be fanfics, whereas the "screen" continuities are much more collaborative, "professional", and planned out with more involvement from Hasbro.

Wow. Just, wow.

I've met some pretty ignorant folk in my days, but this just takes the cake.

Do you have any idea what went into producing Exodus? Do you have any idea how thoroughly involved Hasbro was in crafting its story for the author to write? Who are you to talk about "professionalism" when you yourself seem to have no idea what's going on here?

For your information, Exodus and Exiles (thus far) form the cemented backbone of the whole Aligned Continuity, being derived directly from the Binder of Revelation itself. War for Cybertron, Fall of Cybertron, and Prime are merely the icing on the cake.

It was Hasbro (specifically Aaron Archer and Rik Alvarez) who created this story, and it was Hasbro who commissioned Alex Irvine to write the story they wanted to tell.

And secondly, where in the name of all that make sense in this world do you get off declaring that the cartoons and movies hold the highest canon precedence of all Transformers fiction? Are you that bigoted that you see anything and everything else as lesser mediums of canon? Let me put it to straightforward: Everything is canon! Every single stinkin' piece of TF fiction released by or under the license of Hasbro and/or TakaraTomy is canon to The Transformers. There is not one single continuity, but a vast multiverse of millions of continuities. There is no way you can say that anything that isn't a cartoon or a movie isn't real TF fiction, because that's exactly what they are.

And, a lot of times, the non-cartoon/movie fiction turns out to be superior to its cartoon/movie counterpart. Take the Armada/Energon comics from Dreamwave, for instance. While those cartoons were very much subpar, the comics were well above and beyond average, telling very interesting, epic, and mature (but not "adult") stories that pretty much mopped the floor with the cartoon versions.

And look at the Movieverse comics. Reading those along with watching the movies actually improves the movie-watching experience since the comics explain things and tell stories untold in the films themselves, which helps you get a better overall view of what the Movie Continuity is like. Like, did you ever wonder what happened to Barricade right after Movie 1? Or how about how everyone even got to Earth in the first place? Or why Starscream has tattoos in ROTF when he didn't beforehand? Or how Megatron came into the service of The Fallen? It's all there in the comics.

You can choose to ignore everything that isn't a show or the movie, that's fine. But it's only making you miss out on plenty of things that you can't get from a show or a movie. If you want to remain in the dark about so much, go ahead. As for the rest of us, we will continue to enjoy all the many facets of the Transformers franchise as we like, regardless of your opinion.

Note: asking me questions is probably a bad idea, because I will answer them

Sabrblade wrote:Do you have any idea what went into producing Exodus?

I'm guessing that paper and ink were involved at some point.

Sabrblade wrote:Do you have any idea how thoroughly involved Hasbro was in crafting its story for the author to write?

Not a clue

Sabrblade wrote:For your information, Exodus and Exiles (thus far) form the cemented backbone of the whole Aligned Continuity, being derived directly from the Binder of Revelation itself. War for Cybertron, Fall of Cybertron, and Prime are merely the icing on the cake.

Okay... so... why do Megatron, Starscream, Bumblebee, Arcee, etc. look almost nothing alike between WfC and Prime? Why does Dark Energon have completely different properties between WfC and Prime? I assume there's some convoluted explanation, but it just doesn't seem as "aligned" as the name suggests.

Sabrblade wrote:It was Hasbro (specifically Aaron Archer and Rik Alvarez) who created this story, and it was Hasbro who commissioned Alex Irvine to write the story they wanted to tell.

Okay, you win.

Sabrblade wrote:Like, did you ever wonder what happened to Barricade right after Movie 1?

No. The general assumption at the time was that all of Evil Prowl's appearances after getting curb-stomped by Mumblebee were continuity errors, much like Skywarp and Thundercracker being present at Starscream's coronation in TFTM.

Sabrblade wrote:Or how about how everyone even got to Earth in the first place?

The movies made it clear that they tend to arrive in the form of flying turds.

Sabrblade wrote:Or why Starscream has tattoos in ROTF when he didn't beforehand?

No. I was too confused by the continuity errors to worry about things that were unexplained but didn't really seem inconsistent with anything.

Sabrblade wrote:Or how Megatron came into the service of The Fallen?

Sorry, too busy trying to reconcile "Megatron started the war because of teh cube" with "The Fallen started the war because of teh matrix".