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totally agree with ya on the star wars thing, just because they stick a label on something dosnt make it awesome.

I don't agree with the cylon comparison though, his faceplate is to plain. I guess the bodies look a little alike so there is that.

don't get me wrong I love g1. I just don't think everything has to enslave itself to its memory. if a show/Hasbro wants to branch out in a different manner I'm all for it I like change. some changes work and some don't but I like to take the ride to see.

starscream1974 wrote:I'm just saying there was magic to the G1 era

And the magic only increased as more series came along to enhance the richness of the lore to make it what it is today.

starscream1974 wrote:and yeah maybe people get tired of hearing that and you know can't relate because they were not born in that era......

What about those who DID grow up on G1 in the 80's but prefer later series more? They could be tired of hearing for other reasons.

starscream1974 wrote:that doesn't mean they are lame or do not have the same passion as Hardcore fans.......

I'm a hardcore fan and yet I was born in the 90's. One does not have to have been there from the beginning to be a hardcore fan.

starscream1974 wrote:I'm just saying.......Soundwave looks like a rip off Cylon...

Opinion, not fact.

starscream1974 wrote:Prime's Matrix should give him the edge and not just with knowledge ( its sacred / magic man ..the Decepticons do not have a Matrix )

Matrix may in fact be giving him wisdom of alternatives to fighting? It's not a weapon of war. It is a symbol of leadership. And sometimes the best leader is the one who chooses not to fight. Diplomacy and reasoning can at times be the more powerful act than killing and murdering.

starscream1974 wrote:Look I am a Steam Punk fan,,,,,,have all three with Cyclops pre-ordered....I passed on Hercules to get a more G1 Dev from Maketoys..that doesn't mean I wouldnt want to check out anyone elses collection........

This isn't about the toys. Why bring this up again?

starscream1974 wrote:that being said the Original Lore can be and always will be relevant and if I were in charge of the stories it would be that much more original / magical.......becuase that was what captured all of us 25 year plus fans man................

Translation: "Geewun is better than anything else because I say so."

And, not everything that worked back then works now. A LOT of G1 is very dated. What was good for the 80s may very well not be fit for the present. Some of what was magical back then has really lost its luster over time. Don't let nostalgia keep you from seeing quality and effort (or a lack therof). G1 was good for its time, but it does not fully hold up 100%.

Saberblade brings up various great points. Even though I tend to like G1 the most, I have to admit that several newer storylines surpass it. While I do wish that some things were more G1 based, that is an opinion, not a fact that you should try correcting people with.

Sabrblade wrote:

starscream1974 wrote:The tide is never equal when Prime steps onto the battlefield not even Megatron himself would want to face Prime unless an ambush is there for the taking or Prime is clearly outnumbered.

Um... did you miss their fight during "One Shall Fall"? Neither was holding back and Megatron still got the better of Optimus. Megs would have killed Prime if the other Autobots hadn't stepped in to save him.

I did see that fight. Optimus *almost* overwhelmed Megatron - and then Megs got a "second wind" of sorts thanks to that Dark Energon. So yeah, Megs almost got Optimus, but that Dark Energon in his system certainly gave him an advantage.

Sabrblade wrote:

starscream1974 wrote:I'm just saying there was magic to the G1 era

And the magic only increased as more series came along to enhance the richness of the lore to make it what it is today.

That's one of the reasons why Transformers has lasted as long as it has; it is continually evolving and reshaping itself with each new depiction. Which is necessary for any long running franchise.

Ohhh The Horror. If your tired of the Original Lore, then you don't know what Good is my friends. Opinion yes that is my opinion, Take a pole my friend, Gi Soundwave is one of the baddest looking robots around....use him. Having a Prowl in CGI over a Bulkhead.....you gonna tell me your would take that road? Come on man....just agree because you know you do and your just making for an argument......just becuase, you have your voice....and I got mine. I'm not gonna line for line your responses ...but take it from me, you sorta got it backwards my friends........it's not about when you were born or....what you have in your collection, its about the passion and lore. Sorry bro it is what it is. But I'll take it .......fact is I enjoy Transformers Prime...and there line of Voyagers although Dr Wu is really turning my head with the add ons.WheelJack Blades in route..... Anyways..............Back to the orginal action

Soundwave looks like a Cylon

A lot of the lore that was so awwww inspiring was lost over the years ( I know a good movie when i see one, 300 was awesome.....Immortals was Ok ) YES say whatever you want...and I am ever so happy that its helped with the run it has had AMAZING and still will keep going. But no matter what you say...it's not as deep as it could be with the history of the origins at there disposal...the way their personalities were more vibarant........... whatever. But make no mistake in no shape form or fashion would I have a problem with B.Sing with you at Botcon or whatever and just talking about good ol Transformers.......its all good.

One does not simply challenge sabrblade. Reas his signature. Theres a reason for that.

And too many ellipses. Methinks trolls be afoot.

No trolls,,,,, just a Transformer fan like you. Relax..... anyways. I am looking foward to Transfomers Prime this weekend to see how WheelJack fairs against a Cylon LOL made you laugh...seriously though.....didn't they mention the Dinobots are being introduced this year?
What's your take on Starscream and this new battle suit?

starscream1974 wrote:No trolls,,,,, just a Transformer fan like you. Relax..... anyways. I am looking foward to Transfomers Prime this weekend to see how WheelJack fairs against a Cylon LOL made you laugh...seriously though.....didn't they mention the Dinobots are being introduced this year?
What's your take on Starscream and this new battle suit?

Just googled Cylon (I've never watched BG) and if anything protoform from armada look like cylons, not soundwave.

I like the fact that screamer got the apex armor. I like how it makes the wearer physically invulnerable. However, I HATE the way it looks on him. Maybe it could look better on someone else, but as is I hate the way it looks.

As far as the dinobots go, I think someone else would know that. Probably Sabrblade or shadowman.

Herpde double post.

While I do have to agree that G1 Soundwave has a better overall design, and Prowl is a much more wanted character by fans... That's still opinion... Same goes with what you think about Prime Soundwave's design. I also do agree in some cases about the more vibrant personalities in G1. However, you still have to admit, G1 is beaten in a lot of their storylines and other aspects. Most of the G1 storylines were Megatron making a plan, the Autobots coming around, Megatron's plan failed, and Starscream still insisting on being leader. The fight scenes are also kinda goofy in G1, too. In this aspect, it's like comparing 60s Batman to the Dark Knight movie! I'm just going to leave it at they both have strengths and weaknesses, and you can't just say G1 is the best because you said so. I'm curious what Saber has to say about this...