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Also, this guy makes it sound like these three are very hard to find and spam spam spam spam. Not so. One just has to know where to look. All three are readily available online.

Nice to hear they've tried to get Scramble City... sad there's a hitch on the other side of the pond. Alas.

I have Scramble City and Zone on a Japanese release dvd that is region free NTSC with original japanese audio and english subtitles.

drunyon73 wrote:I have Scramble City and Zone on a Japanese release dvd that is region free NTSC with original japanese audio and english subtitles.

It's probably this bootleg (or one like it) that has circulated the fandom over the years.

How is this bootleg, by the way? Better than youtube?

gothsaurus wrote:How is this bootleg, by the way? Better than youtube?

As far as I can tell, all of the subtitled versions of Scramble City and Zone that are on YouTube seem to come from this bootleg. So, I'd estimate they're more or less the same.

The bootleg of Zone was included in the Metrodome boxed set of all three JG1 series, and it's of not-unwatchable quality.

The bootleg of Scramble City was included in the UK Metrodome Ultimate Edition of the G1 movie, and if the Zone bootleg was any indication, then I'd say it too is of okayish quality.

Neither perfect, nor uber terrible.

I appreciate the quick reply Sabrblade. You rock.

Sabrblade wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:horrible shows. masterforce is probably the worst of the 3

No one cares what you think.

I do. KILL HIM WITH FIRE.

I love these japanse G-1 TF cartoon series.

my favorite is "headmasters" because it felt like the way hasbro's season 4 should of been. i liked that the first half of the headmasters episodes because it felt like hasbro's usa season 3.5. while the 2nd half felt like what hasbro's season 4 should have been.

my 2nd favorite is "masterforce", the animation company did a excellent job with the art work on the fight scenes. those still photo fight scenes looked like works of art. i liked the dark & mature theme of masterforce. the fight scenes & powerful transformers were pure awesome.

my least favorite was victory. because IMHO,This cartoon series looked like it was meant for toddlers. the stories were too contained. their was no strong ark/plot. the persona's were boring. i hated the toddler friendly intro's & outro's. most of the episodes seemed too generic,booring & awful.the writters did a horrible job with the individual TF persona's. the TF persona's felt like 1/2 of a 1-d persona. MOST OF ALL I DIDN'T CARE FOR ALL THE RECAP EPISODES,THEIR WERE TOO MANY. About the only high of this series is when godginrai died in battle & got rebuilt into victoryleo.

I'd rate the zone pilot episode as better than the entire victory cartoon series. because we got all those zombie decepticons.

i didn't care for the scramble city episode. it's overrated & not really a full episode. it feels like recycled scenes were pieced together in a sloppy amateur style way.

BTW,I don't need this shout Ultimate japanese TF collection. I bought the UK Metrodome Japanese G-1 TF collection off amazonuk.com years ago from a 80% off mas released clearance. I also got the complete UK Rid cartoon on mass release from amazonuk.com

Hey TidalwaveX... great, concise reviews of all the series. Seriously, nice job cutting to the chase.

I agree with you across the board... Headmasters really felt more like a good season 4 than what we got here. Hearing from the writers at Botcon, they were forced to introduce like 80 new characters in the Rebirth (seriously!). It just flows awkwardly, full of name lists... and the Nebulans seem like a throw back to something you'd see in Flash Gordon. Robot Nebulans trump little green men any day. Anyway, that epic scene with Soundwave and Blaster alone would make Headmasters the best series of the three.

I warmed up to the end theme to Victory after a couple years of watching too much anime. The marching dinos still crack me up.

I think Scramble City appeals to me because it seems to fill the gap on earth where Autobot City just appears out of nowhere before the movie... and there are some appearances by little used characters and a bit of character development... not to mention the only instance I can think of where Gestalts switch limbs. (?) But given, also a lot of rehash.

I think I'm getting the new sets JUST to be able to play them on my PS3. I guess I'll be glad to support their USA release, even though I have the Metrodome boxes as well. Maybe if they're successful, we'll get Zone/Scramble. Here's hoping.