To each their own, you know, but I just never liked that toy very much. I don't think I ever transformed my clear version more than once, and may have never transformed my Challenge at Cybertron one. None of mine hold together real well in robot mode either. I suppose the opinion of it gets clouded somewhat as well because it was a super-flawed figure from an era where most of the Classics styled releases were extremely good.Kibble wrote:I don't get the hate for Universe Galvatron... Sure, he should be a voyager and he has some balance issues, but otherwise I think it's a solid figure. Both modes look solid and I enjoy the transformation. It's no more fiddly than a movie toy. And blows away the SHIZZLESNIT they've been putting out the last 3 years or so. I'll be curious to see if the new Galvatron is actually an improvement...he has the accurate alt mode working in his favor, but I'm expecting them to go modern Hasbro on the design and make it halfass, hollow, and with wonky proportions.
ScottyP wrote:To each their own, you know, but I just never liked that toy very much. I don't think I ever transformed my clear version more than once, and may have never transformed my Challenge at Cybertron one. None of mine hold together real well in robot mode either. I suppose the opinion of it gets clouded somewhat as well because it was a super-flawed figure from an era where most of the Classics styled releases were extremely good.Kibble wrote:I don't get the hate for Universe Galvatron... Sure, he should be a voyager and he has some balance issues, but otherwise I think it's a solid figure. Both modes look solid and I enjoy the transformation. It's no more fiddly than a movie toy. And blows away the SHIZZLESNIT they've been putting out the last 3 years or so. I'll be curious to see if the new Galvatron is actually an improvement...he has the accurate alt mode working in his favor, but I'm expecting them to go modern Hasbro on the design and make it halfass, hollow, and with wonky proportions.
Razorclaw0000 wrote:ScottyP wrote:To each their own, you know, but I just never liked that toy very much. I don't think I ever transformed my clear version more than once, and may have never transformed my Challenge at Cybertron one. None of mine hold together real well in robot mode either. I suppose the opinion of it gets clouded somewhat as well because it was a super-flawed figure from an era where most of the Classics styled releases were extremely good.Kibble wrote:I don't get the hate for Universe Galvatron... Sure, he should be a voyager and he has some balance issues, but otherwise I think it's a solid figure. Both modes look solid and I enjoy the transformation. It's no more fiddly than a movie toy. And blows away the SHIZZLESNIT they've been putting out the last 3 years or so. I'll be curious to see if the new Galvatron is actually an improvement...he has the accurate alt mode working in his favor, but I'm expecting them to go modern Hasbro on the design and make it halfass, hollow, and with wonky proportions.
That's an awful lot of it. It's such a stinker amongst an amazeballs set of figures. I've got four(five?) copies of that mold (U2.0, Henkei, Challenge, Ehobby, all but the specialists pack) and everyone is utter SHIZZLESNIT. There are so many individually awful spots in the transformation it is as joyless as the most joyless movie toy ever made. The new one looks to be an apology and love letter to make up for the U2.0 version.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Kibble wrote:Admittedly, it's been a while since I've transformed Universe Galvatron, but I don't recall it being THAT fiddly or fragile. I think the arm could tend to pop off, but I never really had much problem with it otherwise. True, most the figures coming out in that era were knocking it out of the park...but especially compared to the junk coming out now, I just don't get how people can still be that put off by it. These days, even the best figures they put out you have to look past various flaws and compromises. If the arm popping off now and then when transforming Galvatron is the worst of it, I'll take it all day long. If he was released in the last 3 years, he would easily be in my top 5 Generations style figures during that stretch.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
jamesbenjamin wrote:RE: MP Ironhide's hip flaps
Its worth pointing out that the screenshot you guys were talking about was a photoshop job. The cartoon never had the flaps, some yahoo made that screenshot and posted it around Facebook. It's not real.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:With what criteria are you grading certain figures? Is Galvatron better than the more recent Generations/Combiner Wars figures, in your mind, due to complexity? Are you equating simple with bad and complex with good? Are you just turned off by some of the recent figures due to size, hollowness, or some other aesthetic hallmarks of recent releases?
I look at some of the more recent Generations deluxes - Armada Starscream, Nightbeat, and Waspinator come to mind - and think, 'wow, these are way better than most Universe releases.' Even some CW figures, like Offroad, Rook, and a few of the jets are real winners in my book, even with their warts.
Going back to Classics/Universe, standouts like the Bumblebee, Sideswipe, and Prowl molds are alright, but they are flawed in their own ways. I think Cyclonus is probably the best Universe deluxe of them all, but even he has trouble holding together in alt mode (EDIT: make that Hound - I think Hound wins).
What I'm trying to get at, returning to my original point, is that affection for a given era often comes down to subjective aesthetic preferences. I'd like to figure out what yours are so I can square it with your love for 2.0 Galvatron.
I could be mad, but I'm not, that's amazing.jamesbenjamin wrote:RE: MP Ironhide's hip flaps
Its worth pointing out that the screenshot you guys were talking about was a photoshop job. The cartoon never had the flaps, some yahoo made that screenshot and posted it around Facebook. It's not real.
ScottyP wrote:I could be mad, but I'm not, that's amazing.jamesbenjamin wrote:RE: MP Ironhide's hip flaps
Its worth pointing out that the screenshot you guys were talking about was a photoshop job. The cartoon never had the flaps, some yahoo made that screenshot and posted it around Facebook. It's not real.
Your screename is just as surreal as one of my best friends is named "Benjamin James", but he's really not into Transformers. It just caught me off guard, I had a brief moment of "What's Ben doing in the Seibertrons!?"
jamesbenjamin wrote:ScottyP wrote:I could be mad, but I'm not, that's amazing.jamesbenjamin wrote:RE: MP Ironhide's hip flaps
Its worth pointing out that the screenshot you guys were talking about was a photoshop job. The cartoon never had the flaps, some yahoo made that screenshot and posted it around Facebook. It's not real.
Your screename is just as surreal as one of my best friends is named "Benjamin James", but he's really not into Transformers. It just caught me off guard, I had a brief moment of "What's Ben doing in the Seibertrons!?"
Ha! Strange. Not me, though. I'm in Seattle and have no good friends named Scott.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:Razorclaw0000 wrote:ScottyP wrote:To each their own, you know, but I just never liked that toy very much. I don't think I ever transformed my clear version more than once, and may have never transformed my Challenge at Cybertron one. None of mine hold together real well in robot mode either. I suppose the opinion of it gets clouded somewhat as well because it was a super-flawed figure from an era where most of the Classics styled releases were extremely good.
That's an awful lot of it. It's such a stinker amongst an amazeballs set of figures. I've got four(five?) copies of that mold (U2.0, Henkei, Challenge, Ehobby, all but the specialists pack) and everyone is utter SHIZZLESNIT. There are so many individually awful spots in the transformation it is as joyless as the most joyless movie toy ever made. The new one looks to be an apology and love letter to make up for the U2.0 version.
By all means, pile on the hate! I remember transforming him as soon as I ripped him out of the package and thinking: WTF? He didn't hold together, pieces kept popping off him, and the whole experience was just unpleasant.
I'm not sure I'll like the new one better though. The flip-out crest kind of hurts the headmaster gimmick - at least Blaster's and Soundwave's helmets don't hurt the articulation any. Plus, the way the treads adhere to his shoulders seems similar to what Fort Max has going on, but not in a charming or attractive way. As long as he's half-way posable, I'll be satisfied, but I don't see getting rid of my UT Galvy anytime soon.
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