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For fanatics of the Transformers live action movie franchise, here are some comforting words of prediction from film star Tyrese Gibson (Sgt. Epps). According to an interview posted at MovieWeb.com, Gibson thinks that the return of the duo for a fourth installment is inevitable.

Tyrese Gibson wrote:My humble prediction would be that... we're at $1.1 billion. This is the biggest year of my life. I'm on the other side of $1.7 billion in box office receipts, between both films. I think, with the success of Transformers: Dark of the Moon, both Michael Bay and Shia probably want a break from the franchise, but there's no way, I believe, that, at some point, they're not going come back to do Transfomers 4. Maybe they need a few years to get a few other creative things out of their system, which is understandable, but for people to love this franchise around the world like they do, it's damn-near crazy to not give the fans what they love and enjoy again. So maybe two years, maybe three years will go by, you never know, but I believe, and hope, that we are able to do another Transformers. I'm a real Transformers fan, outside of the fact that I'm in the movie, but I just hope we're able to do it again one day. It's the first film in Paramount's 99-year history that has ever grossed $1 billion. I hope we're able to figure this out

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'Bring it.'

Oh... great.

shia said he was done. i think bay did too

I certainly freakn hope so!!! Best movie line EVER!

I've had a pretty good day so far, I knew something had to happen…

Instant karma's gonna get you!

Too much money at stake, TF4 is coming with or without the old crew.

My honest guess is that there will be a new Director and main character. Prime is millions of years old, we wont be held down by some 20 something kid.

Thank you!
Please make another one some day!
Unicron!
Galvatron!
The Return of Starscream!

I bloody well hope not. LaBeouf I'm not all that fussed about either way, but Bay's got a director's chair waiting for him in a special circle of hell.

Tyrese Gibson is enthusiastic but often times offers more hype than truth.

Supreme Convoy wrote:Tyrese Gibson is enthusiastic but often times offers more hype than truth.

Exactly.

In Tyrese Gibson's mind if there is not another Transformers movie, He'll be out of hollywood, plain and simple. If Transformers hadn't happened, he would have probably started doing straight to dvd movies..HE needs Tf4 to happen..

LiKwid wrote:

Supreme Convoy wrote:Tyrese Gibson is enthusiastic but often times offers more hype than truth.

Exactly.

In Tyrese Gibson's mind if there is not another Transformers movie, He'll be out of hollywood, plain and simple. If Transformers hadn't happened, he would have probably started doing straight to dvd movies..HE needs Tf4 to happen..

they all need it to happen with the exception of mb of course

This is the point in a franchise where the desire to make money should yield to the desire to make a good movie, and all the old crew can gracefully exit on a high note and allow a new crew to take over and do a better job.

I love this and it is sound reasoning. I do beleive that they should do a Trilogy of 4,5, and 6. Plot it out beginning to end and punch them out back to back Lord of the RIngs style. And I got the plan man....

TF4 = Heralds of Unicron. The Space Bridge in 3, travels through time and space, actually sent the majority of Cybertron back in time and far across space, twisted the inhabitants, merged many of their sparks and created UNICRON! The modern time warp finally makes Unicron aware fo the location of the humans that caused his pain's planet (Earth, duh) and he sends his heralds to go prepare for his arrival. Part of the preparations is the gathering of dead protoforms on our planet (Unicron needs the extinguished sparks as he cannot manipulate functioning ones). Dinobots and Insecticons get introduced as having been buried on this planet for centuries, lost at the time of the Primes (their workers on the Harvester) but their Protoforms can no longer change and they have traditional gold/gray/red and black/purple/yellow coloring due to not having a lot of options on how to repair themselves from being trapped on Earth and are uncovered by mistakenly being thought of as dead. The factions are treated almost as religious factions (by emphasising the choice that they make) and many Decepticons help the Autobots as they feel the taking of Megatrons Body to be Sacrilege. The Autobots and a small band of Decepticon allies beleive they have defeated them at the end.

TF5 = Unicron Approaches. Unicrons newest (most powerful) heralds are created and dispatched, these would be Galvatron and his Sweeps (the sweeps ore not countless Scourge clones but individual characters). In answer to the power that is Galvatron and the Sweeps, Ratchet creates an exoskeleton ("Ironhide would have loved to get his hands on that"). A small ship of religious and pacifist Autobots arrive led by their Magnus (a religious title like a Bishop), Dion (one of the crew is a young, but not childish Autobot named Rodimus). Prime is heavily damaged in battle and Dion realizing that pacifism is not working merges himself with the Exoskeleton to become The Ultra Magnus. Unicron arrives at the edge of our Solar System and destroys the pacifist Autobot base on Pluto. It ends where Galvatron is damaged and the control Unicron has on him broken, Ultra Magnus is also beat up really bad, Optimus is beat down but healing, and Unicron is looming.

TF6 = The Battle of Unicron. Unicron arrives at the moon. Galvatron decides that he is again Megatron, and wants revenge against Unicron for trying to control him. Galvatron also wants revenge against the Prime and the Autobots for killing him, he splits his forces against the Autobots and Unicron and Prime has to do the same in Defense. Ultra Magnus commands the Earth bound troops fighting the Decepticons, but after a major defeat realizes he is no military leader and allows a young Rodimus to take command. Prime leads the assault on Unicron and after fighting each other to a stand still, Megatron realizes his vendetta against Unicron is priority (he can kill Prime later, but needs a home for the time being). He takes Prime to the Harvester, but attacks him from behind in an attempt to claim the Matrix (which will activate it) for himself. Just before Megatron can use the Matrix, Rodimus arrives, reveals himself to be a decendant of the Primes (theirs a shocker), battles Megs, retrieves the Matrix and Uses the Harvester to destroy Unicron (as "YOU GOT THE TOUCH..." is playing in the back ground).

I got more ideas and would be happy to contribute to the production freely, I don't want any credit, I'm a fan, I just want to see these made!

Treetop Maximus wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:I bloody well hope not. LaBeouf I'm not all that fussed about either way, but Bay's got a director's chair waiting for him in a special circle of hell.

>Implying people get sent to hell for making movies

That's a paddlin.

As much as I enjoyed the movies I do hope they give it a few years before the next one.

Bull crap!
Come on guys, seriously. Am I the only one to have to say this.

We've been played. The entire franchise has been secreted on. I cannot believe you guys still want to see another Hollywood movie about The Transformers.
Dotm was simply appalling, it was a mess. I was so disappointed from that s**t movie that I didn't even bother to see it again, and that is saying something, I saw 1 and 2, at least 3 times in theatres, and that's not counting it's other iterations.
I am a tf fan. I acknowledge many of you are more fans then i am. But in terms of credibility, I have it, so allow me to speak my mind before you jump to a flame war.

Dotm could have been a tremendous film, it had all the basics laid out. Who here did not feel goosebumps when they saw Cybertron in that first scene? At last we saw it, and they left it behind, to only destroy it at the end. Forcing the notion that Earth is better than cybetron. I freakin love cybertron, I miss it so much. We never get to see it, and when we do ,they erase it from existence. (I'm assuming it's gone by the way, self evident that it kind of imploded upon itself, with no evidence elsewhere that it survived)...(I'm also sticking strictly the movies by Bay, nothing more, no novels, comics, or any other arcs). I don't even know where to start, they killed every single decepticon, actually, Optimus killed every one. He was insane! He went on a killing spree rampage. Too much if you ask me. He was more like a murderer. Megatron saved his life and ops kills him without a second thought. All Optimus cared about was stupid earthlings. Sure as viewers we are humans, but come on, you doomed your entire race Prime. Sure the action sequences were awesome, and sometimes unnecessary, but it didn't make sense. They hyped Shockwave so much, and he did nothing. They hyped every one, and they did nothing.
Disney movies have better structure than this. It was mindless, with some witty comments here and there at best, TFM trilogy that is.

There was no need for Sentinel Prime to fight Optimus, he is the autobot leader. What does this teach people and kids, just kill every one and you will be ok? If you disagree with your boss/leader, KILL THEM. If he's the Einstein of your race, maybe you should listen to the mofo. Einstein came up with the theory of relativity and many more. Do we throw that down the toilet, if he says, no I think we should do this.

There is soooooo much I can talk about this movie, so many mistakes, and broken dreams by fans. They broke our dreams in first movie, when they did not show enough transformers footage. In second one, they pulled a stupid trick , where they kill and resurrect the same characters. Op and megs, It's as if they couldn't handle the responsibility of killing Prime, so to appease the kids/parents/ etc, they bring him back at the end. Believe it or not, killing prime , and megs in the G1 movie , was what gave it substance and what gave it strength.

I'm not just a g1 fan. I would want the movie to portray more of the magic of transformers, not what some big shot director thought of it. He said the 3rd film will be completely different, it wasn't , it was the same. In fact it was worse. when I thought Megatron lived in the end of rotf, he will be a key player in 3, and we will see finally decepticons at their best. But nope, that did not happen.
Hell, a movie about minicons would be better.

Where I'm getting at this is, I do not want a 4th movie, you've had your chance. You blew it big time. I don't want to be hyped up for another year to be disappointed, or have a reaction of "meh", it didn't blow me away.

LEAVE TRANSFORMERS ALONE!!!!!! Let the fans make the movie, cause obviously you are doing a mediocre job.

We said the designs are too radical, but we grew to like them. The colors are inaccurate, so we accepted them. The characters are way of their original, we sort of accepted that too. But to completely, kill off every character we cared about (Decepticons, yes we care about them, just as much as we care about Autobots, since they are the ying to the yang) that I do not accept.

Maybe do an animated film, that will give you more freedom and leave the stupid humans out of it. Why is TFP so good, since there is focus on the freaking TFs. Why is TFA good, since there is FOCUS ON THE Transformers, and it was pure genius that they made Sari tech organic. WHY IS BW SO GOOD? SINCE....repeat after me....FOCUS ON THE TRANSFORMERS CHARACTERS.

sigh, I'm just angry at this whole movie thing. To hear there is a 4th one , and by Bay, pisses me off. Bay is only good for patriotic American films, and Tfs have nothing to do with patriotism, they're not American, Jamaican or w/e. They're from Cybertron. You have your themes mixed up Bay. You want to make a movie about America, don't involve TFs, even if the TF is an American franchise, it just looks cheap. Just like Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith yelling to Anakin "This is about DEMOCRACY". HAHAHAH I did not know democracy existed in a galaxy a long long time ago.

SAY NO TO TF4

If it's a different director, maybe even a reboot, I might consider it, but honestly

fool me once shame on you
you fool me you can't get fooled again.

Plz tf fans, wake up, demand higher quality products, otherwise Tf will always be a mindless franchise designed simply to sell their toys.

Compare TF with Full metal alchemist for example, do the movies even compare to the story of fma? or even, compare Tf as a movie trilogy to Terminator 2, or even compare it to the Dark Knight.

This was all an IMO, and a response to Tyrese.

Don't even think of making a new movie, I don't care how much money. How about making Thundercats, go ruin that, or ruin power rangers or something. Enough damage has been done, let us repair ourselves and move on this era of shame. Ask yourselves this, if you could make a Tf movie what goes in your mind?

I admit Bay did many contributions to the franchise, more realistic transformers, a different megs, starscream, robots, designs, etc. He brought back Cullen, and even Welker. But playing time is over kids, now let's get serious ok?

Thank you for reading
Bud Maloney

I hope they do make new movies. I have another year until I have nothing else to wait for. I will be bored.

budmaloney wrote:Let the fans make the movie, cause obviously you are doing a mediocre job.

Yeah ... mediocre ... box office takings say otherwise mate.

And trust me. A "fan" made movie? Yeah, the masses are going to turn away from a fan wank.

I'll be blunt to you, and all those others who think they or the fans could do a better job ... you couldn't. You're blind. You're all so wrapped in what you perceive to be your ideal of the perfect movie, you don't look at the bigger picture.

You don't take into account the cost needed to make the movie, and the sort of content the movie needs to not only get a return at the box office, but to also make money. The only way for that to happen is to appeal to a broad audience.

You don't take into account the accompanying toy line and merchandise tie-ins, the marketting campaigns, the licensing deals, all of which goes into making a movie a monetary success.

I'm tired of "fans" going off about how crap the movies were and how they can do a better job, plain and simple, you can't. Deal with it.

the only way they could do a 4th movie IMO would be to introduce Unicron.
here's my idea:
shortly after the events of DOTM earth sends the dead decepticons into deep space on a rocket. fast-forward 10-20 years, Sam and Carly are married and have a young son. New autobots include most of the cast from the old G1 movie(hot rod, kup, magnus, springer, etc.)
cut to the rocket with the dead cons, slowly approaching Unicron in his planet form. he revives/reformats them into galvatron cyclonus scourge and the sweeps.
the rest of the movie would basically follow the G1 movie story line. that would be a movie worth watching, as long as they get someone other than Bay to direct it.

Bud i agree with you all the way, the movies got progressively worse with each one. Ive been a fan since way back in 1984 when i first saw the commercial for the marvel limited comic series, and am still a fan who's almost 40 years old. Honestly Im not happy with any of the movies story, Prime is supposed to be peaceful almost to a point of pacifism, not the cold fueled, headhunter fetish having bot we've seen throughout the movies. All that the movie makers are concerned with is how much money will it make, obviously not the lore. Hate to say it, but mabey Uwe Boll (and i honestly despise the man for makeing the godawefull Bloodreign movies)would have possibly done a compairable, if not better job than Bay. If there is to be another movie, which i bet there will be..... too much money for hasbro to make off of our beloved childhood heroes, lets try Peter Jackson, or Ridley Scott hes doing a Aliens prequel lets see how it turns out and if its good get him, the movies cant get any worse....or can they? lets hope not. Either way just wanted to express my freedom of speech, if you dont like what ive said, fine thats your right. (sorry about spelling errors just got off a 14hour shift, aint too worried bout spellin at the moment)

Meantoy wrote: Prime is supposed to be peaceful almost to a point of pacifism, not the cold fueled, headhunter fetish having bot we've seen throughout the movies.

The "Head Hunter" Prime as you call it was the result of FANS, whining and complaining after the fisr movie when Prime got his ass handed to him by Megatron. Fans also wanted a more serious, dark toned story. Sorry, but this "Blood thirsty" Optimus as many have labeled him is a result of Bay and Co. trying to appeal to peoples request. "Fans" have no one to blame but themselves.

Meantoy wrote: All that the movie makers are concerned with is how much money will it make, obviously not the lore.

Of course. This isn't some fly by mom and pop shop. This is a multi milion (now billion) dollor a year fracnchise. Maoney has, and always will be the for front of how decisions are made. And this goes for pretty much every comic book/toy become movie. You can try and convince yourself otherwise, but in the end you'll just come to the realization that without profit, there can be no continuation of the hobby you've dedicated yourself for the last 25+ yrs.

Meantoy wrote: Hate to say it, but mabey Uwe Boll (and i honestly despise the man for makeing the godawefull Bloodreign movies)would have possibly done a compairable, if not better job than Bay..

NO, no no. He can not, and never could. His record has shown that. Has Uwe Boll made a movie that has grossed over $1 Billion? Even half of that? Heck, even a 10th? NO he hasn't.
Though sometimes i wish he would make a TF movie. Then those that complain of a raped childhood would see just how much you can really take it up the ass in trems of a bad TF movie.
These movies (TF) were not bad. Especially not DOTM. They were just different than what your interpetation would have been for a live action TF movie. That does not make it a bad movie.

Meantoy wrote:If there is to be another movie, which i bet there will be..... too much money for hasbro to make off of our beloved childhood heroes, lets try Peter Jackson, or Ridley Scott hes doing a Aliens prequel lets see how it turns out and if its good get him, the movies cant get any worse....or can they? lets hope not.

I'd be cool with another director if Bay wants to call it quits. But just remember. Just cause another director takes the helm, does not mean they will produce any better of a TF movie than Bay. Every director has their own interpetation of said material and it doesn't mean its going to be any bettter than what bay and Co. have done.

5150 Cruiser wrote:

Meantoy wrote: Prime is supposed to be peaceful almost to a point of pacifism, not the cold fueled, headhunter fetish having bot we've seen throughout the movies.

The "Head Hunter" Prime as you call it was the result of FANS, whining and complaining after the fisr movie when Prime got his ass handed to him by Megatron. Fans also wanted a more serious, dark toned story. Sorry, but this "Blood thirsty" Optimus as many have labeled him is a result of Bay and Co. trying to appeal to peoples request. "Fans" have no one to blame but themselves.

Meantoy wrote: All that the movie makers are concerned with is how much money will it make, obviously not the lore.

Of course. This isn't some fly by mom and pop shop. This is a multi milion (now billion) dollor a year fracnchise. Maoney has, and always will be the for front of how decisions are made. And this goes for pretty much every comic book/toy become movie. You can try and convince yourself otherwise, but in the end you'll just come to the realization that without profit, there can be no continuation of the hobby you've dedicated yourself for the last 25+ yrs.

Meantoy wrote: Hate to say it, but mabey Uwe Boll (and i honestly despise the man for makeing the godawefull Bloodreign movies)would have possibly done a compairable, if not better job than Bay..

NO, no no. He can not, and never could. His record has shown that. Has Uwe Boll made a movie that has grossed over $1 Billion? Even half of that? Heck, even a 10th? NO he hasn't.
Though sometimes i wish he would make a TF movie. Then those that complain of a raped childhood would see just how much you can really take it up the ass in trems of a bad TF movie.
These movies (TF) were not bad. Especially not DOTM. They were just different than what your interpetation would have been for a live action TF movie. That does not make it a bad movie.

Meantoy wrote:If there is to be another movie, which i bet there will be..... too much money for hasbro to make off of our beloved childhood heroes, lets try Peter Jackson, or Ridley Scott hes doing a Aliens prequel lets see how it turns out and if its good get him, the movies cant get any worse....or can they? lets hope not.

I'd be cool with another director if Bay wants to call it quits. But just remember. Just cause another director takes the helm, does not mean they will produce any better of a TF movie than Bay. Every director has their own interpetation of said material and it doesn't mean its going to be any bettter than what bay and Co. have done.

budmaloney wrote:We've been played. The entire franchise has been secreted on. I cannot believe you guys still want to see another Hollywood movie about The Transformers.

I've been asking everyone this question myself. Sure, these movies have produced some crazy box office bank, but the amount of money these movies have made doesn't necessarily correlate to the quality they attain. I could write pages on what Bay did wrong with these movies, but I'm going to spare everyone the agony. All I simply have to say is that nothing can save the series from a lack of decent acting, embarrassing gags, and an imbalance of robot and human screen time. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy them in at least one way or another, they're great summer films where you can sit back, relax, and have fun watching the metal fly. I just see no reason to continue making any more of these movies.