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Here's my problem.

I'm a Magnus fan, and thus would like to get a Prime version of the big guy to go with my Prime figures. However, I'm on the fence about the Voyager fig, since I have a few issues with it:

- The hammer/gun looks too big and I've heard it's hard for him to hold it in any sort of pose

- He doesn't seem as big as Magnus should be, in either mode

However, those are fairly minor issues... scale is NEVER perfect and I've read about the shoulder fix. Even still, given the announced Weaponizer figure, which would be a bit larger, probably have some sweet guns, and isn't priced much higher than a Voyager, I'm considering waiting it out to see what the Beast Hunters Weaponizer Magnus will look like. He would probably be in better scale with the other Prime figures, and I'm sure if he has a hammer it would be a more reasonably sized weapon.

My concern with the Weaponizer though - so far, I'm not much of a fan of the Beast Hunters figures' aesthetic...

So should I scoop up the Voyager figure if I find it, as a 'pretty darn good' figure, or wait to see if the Weaponizer is 'More Epic!' or 'More Fail!' before dispensing my cash? I really just don't want to miss getting Voyager Magnus at retail prices if his upsized counterpart is going to be too spiky...

Thanks.

Autobot Strider wrote:However, those are fairly minor issues... scale is NEVER perfect and I've read about the shoulder fix. Even still, given the rumoured / announced Powerizer figure, which would be a bit larger, probably have some sweet guns, and isn't priced much higher than a Voyager, I'm considering waiting it out to see what the Beast Hunters Powerizer Magnus will look like.

Voyagers are Powerizers. Your're thinking about Weaponizers. And...it's no rumor.

He would probably be in better scale with the other Prime figures, and I'm sure if he has a hammer it would be a more reasonably sized weapon.

We don't know how big Ultra Magnus is supposed to be because he's not in the show. How do you conclude he'll be Weaponizer scale?

My concern with the Powerizer though - so far, I'm not much of a fan of the Beast Hunters figures' aesthetic...

What, the fact that all their cars are spikey? Because they're not all like that:

So should I scoop up the Voyager figure if I find it, as a 'pretty darn good' figure, or wait to see if the Powerizer is 'More Epic!' or 'More Fail!' before dispensing my cash? I really just don't want to miss getting Voyager Magnus at retail prices if his upsized counterpart is going to be too spiky...

Thanks.

Wait for pics of the Weaponizer if you're really that concerned about his "scale." It's not like any of the issues on the Voyager can't be easily fixed.

Ah, the "wait and see" dilemma. I have been burned by this before. I don't "wait and see" anymore.

If I were you, I would buy the voyager if you see it. If you are concerned about the other on one being bigger and better, you can keep it boxed, keep your receipt, and return it. Use the store credit to buy the new one.

PrymeStriker wrote:Voyagers are Powerizers. Your're thinking about Weaponizers. And...it's no rumor.

Oh yeah, my bad. Fixed. Thanks.

PrymeStriker wrote:We don't know how big Ultra Magnus is supposed to be because he's not in the show. How do you conclude he'll be Weaponizer scale?

I'm using the advanced method of common-sense/door size comparaison. If a voyager truck has doors that, when compared to a deluxe car, look like they were meant for Bilbo Baggins it's a safe bet the truck is made in a smaller scale. Granted, it only really works for vehicle modes, as Prime does use mass-shifting for its bots.

PrymeStriker wrote:What, the fact that all their cars are spikey? Because they're not all like that

True, but I'll put more stock in what the deluxe figures look like when considering the rest of the line. Mind you, they did re-do Cyberverse Bulkhead, so who knows.

PrymeStriker wrote:Wait for pics of the Weaponizer if you're really that concerned about his "scale." It's not like any of the issues on the Voyager can't be easily fixed.

Thanks for your response.

SJ21 wrote:Ah, the "wait and see" dilemma. I have been burned by this before. I don't "wait and see" anymore.

If I were you, I would buy the voyager if you see it. If you are concerned about the other on one being bigger and better, you can keep it boxed, keep your receipt, and return it. Use the store credit to buy the new one.

Good advice, but I know if I buy it I'll just have to open it.

The longer I have mine the more I say skip it. His shoulders just suck, they can not hold up his weapon. Which is to bad because I like his hammer/gun, it has such authority behind it.

The shoulders can be fixed with the tried and true clear nail polish trick. Made especially easy in this case because of how far the ball joints are projected out from the upper torso. Easiest time getting limbs off then back on I've ever had.

As to scale, This guy is pretty darn big in robot mode. I have him along side FE Bulkhead and FE Prime and he is right up there in height even with the semi crouched pose I have him in. And he is a PRiD mold. Measuring up to FE voyagers

I vote buy him and open him up. If you really really dislike it, the toy is still scarce enough to be able to re-sell it with little to no loss.

njb902 wrote:The longer I have mine the more I say skip it. His shoulders just suck, they can not hold up his weapon. Which is to bad because I like his hammer/gun, it has such authority behind it.

Use nail polish. Loose shoulders are the complaint I keep hearing about and they call him a suckish figure because of it. Loose joints are the easiest QC issue to fix, just take action.

jindrak wrote:The shoulders can be fixed with the tried and true clear nail polish trick. Made especially easy in this case because of how far the ball joints are projected out from the upper torso. Easiest time getting limbs off then back on I've ever had.

PrymeStriker wrote:Use nail polish. Loose shoulders are the complaint I keep hearing about and they call him a suckish figure because of it. Loose joints are the easiest QC issue to fix, just take action.

Ok, I've never modified one of my transformers minus changing out batteries so this scares me a little. I actually love my UM and don't want to ruin him. However, I would really like to get his shoulder issue taken care of.

So my question regards how exactly to accomplish the clear nail polish mod. Do I pop off the arms and coat the inside of the ball joint? Or do I coat the end of the ball instead? I'm assuming I then just wait until it dries and then pop the arms back on? How many coats/how thick? Lastly, is nail polish a better fix than super glue?

Any guidance would be much appreciated.

Back on topic...I recommend this figure even with the shoulder issue. Also, if the Weaponizer UM is a better figure than some of the other Weaponizers then I'll probably get him too. As far as scale is concerned, I think either would be fine as it just depends on your personal taste as to how big UM should be compared to the other bots. Yet, as PrymeStriker alluded to earlier, I bet we see him in the show. If that happens, you can choose the best scale for you, be it classic or show accurate and go from there!

Rhinox23 wrote:

jindrak wrote:The shoulders can be fixed with the tried and true clear nail polish trick. Made especially easy in this case because of how far the ball joints are projected out from the upper torso. Easiest time getting limbs off then back on I've ever had.

PrymeStriker wrote:Use nail polish. Loose shoulders are the complaint I keep hearing about and they call him a suckish figure because of it. Loose joints are the easiest QC issue to fix, just take action.

Ok, I've never modified one of my transformers minus changing out batteries so this scares me a little. I actually love my UM and don't want to ruin him. However, I would really like to get his shoulder issue taken care of.'

So my question regards how exactly to accomplish the clear nail polish mod. Do I pop off the arms and coat the inside of the ball joint? Or do I coat the end of the ball instead? I'm assuming I then just wait until it dries and then pop the arms back on? How many coats/how thick?

Personally, I don't care what color nail polish I use. I try to get the clearest one available to me without going out and buying some. Anyway, yeah: you pop the arms off and apply the nail polish, wait for it to dry, and pop the arms back on. Three to five coats will do the trick.

PrymeStriker wrote:

njb902 wrote:The longer I have mine the more I say skip it. His shoulders just suck, they can not hold up his weapon. Which is to bad because I like his hammer/gun, it has such authority behind it.

Use nail polish. Loose shoulders are the complaint I keep hearing about and they call him a suckish figure because of it. Loose joints are the easiest QC issue to fix, just take action.

Sorry but any figure I have to "fix" it to make it work is a sucky figure. Even if after the fix it turns into the best figure ever, it's still sucky!