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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:35 pm

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njb902 wrote:
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njb902 wrote:The longer I have mine the more I say skip it. His shoulders just suck, they can not hold up his weapon. Which is to bad because I like his hammer/gun, it has such authority behind it.


Use nail polish. Loose shoulders are the complaint I keep hearing about and they call him a suckish figure because of it. Loose joints are the easiest QC issue to fix, just take action.


Sorry but any figure I have to "fix" it to make it work is a sucky figure. Even if after the fix it turns into the best figure ever, it's still sucky!


:???:

So, is this your only complaint about the figure? >:oP
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby REMINATOR » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:12 pm

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In term of scale, Voyager UM is perfect with the other RID figures. From other pics, it looked he's slightly shorter than the FE OPrime version. I don't know about the UM Weaponizer version, but to me, I really love the Voyager. In fact, I love him so much, I'm trying to find a second one. He really looks a lot better in person. The downside, it's just a shame that they cut down the paint app as well as the poor shoulder joints. If you want to wait and see the Weaponizer pic first, there's always Ebay should the Voyager UM is no longer available.
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby njb902 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:01 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:
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njb902 wrote:The longer I have mine the more I say skip it. His shoulders just suck, they can not hold up his weapon. Which is to bad because I like his hammer/gun, it has such authority behind it.


Use nail polish. Loose shoulders are the complaint I keep hearing about and they call him a suckish figure because of it. Loose joints are the easiest QC issue to fix, just take action.


Sorry but any figure I have to "fix" it to make it work is a sucky figure. Even if after the fix it turns into the best figure ever, it's still sucky!


:???:

So, is this your only complaint about the figure? >:oP


Does there need to be more?
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:21 pm

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njb902 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:The longer I have mine the more I say skip it. His shoulders just suck, they can not hold up his weapon. Which is to bad because I like his hammer/gun, it has such authority behind it.


Use nail polish. Loose shoulders are the complaint I keep hearing about and they call him a suckish figure because of it. Loose joints are the easiest QC issue to fix, just take action.


Sorry but any figure I have to "fix" it to make it work is a sucky figure. Even if after the fix it turns into the best figure ever, it's still sucky!


:???:

So, is this your only complaint about the figure? >:oP


Does there need to be more?


If that's your only complaint, it shouldn't be much of a "suckish" figure.

Loose shoulders? Oh no!



Loose ball joints can be fixed, but you choose not to. This is why I asked if you had anymore complaints, which would help me better understand why you think Ultra Magnus is a "suckish figure."
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby Breakdown 2099 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:37 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:Loose ball joints can be fixed, but you choose not to. This is why I asked if you had anymore complaints, which would help me better understand why you think Ultra Magnus is a "suckish figure."


He doesn't like the figure. Does he really need to explain why so you can understand? You may choose to paint your figures with nail polish, he does not. Pretty simple really.
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby njb902 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:48 am

PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:The longer I have mine the more I say skip it. His shoulders just suck, they can not hold up his weapon. Which is to bad because I like his hammer/gun, it has such authority behind it.


Use nail polish. Loose shoulders are the complaint I keep hearing about and they call him a suckish figure because of it. Loose joints are the easiest QC issue to fix, just take action.


Sorry but any figure I have to "fix" it to make it work is a sucky figure. Even if after the fix it turns into the best figure ever, it's still sucky!


:???:

So, is this your only complaint about the figure? >:oP


Does there need to be more?


If that's your only complaint, it shouldn't be much of a "suckish" figure.

Loose shoulders? Oh no!



Loose ball joints can be fixed, but you choose not to. This is why I asked if you had anymore complaints, which would help me better understand why you think Ultra Magnus is a "suckish figure."


Always glad to know when your personal opinion is wrong........ Oh wait.
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby Autobot Strider » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:23 am

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Would anyone who actually owns Magnus be willing to take a few size-comparaison shots with other voyagers and deluxes, or know where to find some? I know that the galleries don't have him yet, so....

I'm starting to think that bird in hand is worth two in the bush... if I find him I may just pick him up (hopefully some on-sale nail polish too... ;-))
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:29 pm

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Breakdown 2099 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:Loose ball joints can be fixed, but you choose not to. This is why I asked if you had anymore complaints, which would help me better understand why you think Ultra Magnus is a "suckish figure."


He doesn't like the figure. Does he really need to explain why so you can understand?


Does he need to? No. Bashing the figure over a minor QC issue isn't making any sense to me. You seem to think I'm forcing him to give me more reasons; I asked him a simple question and he gave me a simple answer (with another question). That's fine.

njb902 wrote:Always glad to know when your personal opinion is wrong........ Oh wait.


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Autobot Strider wrote:Would anyone who actually owns Magnus be willing to take a few size-comparaison shots with other voyagers and deluxes, or know where to find some? I know that the galleries don't have him yet, so....

I'm starting to think that bird in hand is worth two in the bush... if I find him I may just pick him up (hopefully some on-sale nail polish too... ;-))


Well, I snapped a quick photo of Magnus next to Megatron & Breakdown (with Knock Out and Soundwave on the side), and Peaugh's review of the figure at 13:09 compares Ultra Magnus with PRiD Optimus Prime.

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As you can see, Ultra Magnus is one of the tallest PRiD Voyagers.
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby Rhinox23 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:50 pm

Autobot Strider wrote:Would anyone who actually owns Magnus be willing to take a few size-comparaison shots with other voyagers and deluxes, or know where to find some? I know that the galleries don't have him yet, so....

I'm starting to think that bird in hand is worth two in the bush... if I find him I may just pick him up (hopefully some on-sale nail polish too... ;-))


I got my FE OP out of his box (just moved and haven't set up my TF display yet at the new place) to compare his size with my UM. FE Optimus is just a little taller than UM, at least at the height of the head. However, their respective shoulder pads are pretty much at the same level. FYI, First Edition Optimus is taller than the PRiD version. I hope this helps you make a decision! :BOT:
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby Breakdown 2099 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:37 am

PrymeStriker wrote:Does he need to? No. Bashing the figure over a minor QC issue isn't making any sense to me.

It doesn't need to make sense, that's the beauty of individuality. If somebody isn't happy with a figure for any reason, accept it and move on.
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby Nemesis Destron » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:23 am

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So without getting too far off the point is it a fact that there will be a weaponizer UM? :VEHI:
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby Autobot Strider » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:15 am

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Thanks for the pics guys! I guess his size isn't that bad - although it would have been nice if he was taller than FE Prime, since thats the one I've got, but ah well. Any vehicle mode comparaison shots?
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby PrymeStriker » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:12 am

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Breakdown 2099 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:Does he need to? No. Bashing the figure over a minor QC issue isn't making any sense to me.

It doesn't need to make sense, that's the beauty of individuality. If somebody isn't happy with a figure for any reason, accept it and move on.


I did move on. It still doesn't make sense, but that doesn't mean I can't accept it. So, in this situation, my decision was not to feed a baiting troll. You can't blame me for asking a question, which you may or may not have taken the wrong way. >:oP

Nemesis Destron wrote:So without getting too far off the point is it a fact that there will be a weaponizer UM? :VEHI:


Yes, it is. He's in Wave 1 of the Beast Hunters Weaponizers with Optimus & Bumblebee... again. :roll:

Autobot Strider wrote:Thanks for the pics guys! I guess his size isn't that bad - although it would have been nice if he was taller than FE Prime, since thats the one I've got, but ah well. Any vehicle mode comparaison shots?


This isn't a snap of mine, but here's Ultra Magnus next to a custom PRiD Optimus and a custom PRiD Bumblebee.

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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby njb902 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:50 am

PrymeStriker wrote:
Breakdown 2099 wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:Does he need to? No. Bashing the figure over a minor QC issue isn't making any sense to me.

It doesn't need to make sense, that's the beauty of individuality. If somebody isn't happy with a figure for any reason, accept it and move on.


I did move on. It still doesn't make sense, but that doesn't mean I can't accept it. So, in this situation, my decision was not to feed a baiting troll. You can't blame me for asking a question, which you may or may not have taken the wrong way. >:oP

Nemesis Destron wrote:So without getting too far off the point is it a fact that there will be a weaponizer UM? :VEHI:


Yes, it is. He's in Wave 1 of the Beast Hunters Weaponizers with Optimus & Bumblebee... again. :roll:

Autobot Strider wrote:Thanks for the pics guys! I guess his size isn't that bad - although it would have been nice if he was taller than FE Prime, since thats the one I've got, but ah well. Any vehicle mode comparaison shots?


This isn't a snap of mine, but here's Ultra Magnus next to a custom PRiD Optimus and a custom PRiD Bumblebee.

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So what first I'm not allowed to have an opinion and now I'm a baiting troll?
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby PrymeStriker » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:54 am

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njb902 wrote:So what first I'm not allowed to have an opinion


When did I say you weren't allowed to have an opinion? I asked if you had any other complaints. I expressed my opinion on the matter after you answered with another question and that was that. You don't have any other complaints, case closed.

and now I'm a baiting troll?


Please excuse me if I offended you, but [some of] your snarky comments I perceive as intended to get a rise out of me. Then, later down the road, you'd say that it was "all in good fun." What is that all about? :-|

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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby njb902 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:58 am

PrymeStriker wrote:
njb902 wrote:So what first I'm not allowed to have an opinion


When did I say you weren't allowed to have an opinion? I asked if you had any other complaints. I expressed my opinion on the matter after you answered with another question and that was that. You don't have any other complaints, case closed.

and now I'm a baiting troll?


With snarky comments [that I perceived as] intended to get a rise out of me, and then later down the road say that it was "all in good fun?" What is that all about? :-|

njb902 wrote:Always glad to know when your personal opinion is wrong........ Oh wait.


You're right how dare I defend myself.

As for the other thread you mentioned get over it.
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby PrymeStriker » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:04 pm

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Let's take this to PMs instead of spamming up Autobot Strider's thread further.
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby Prime0080 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:40 pm

You could purchase Steel Core and pop an Ultra Magnus head on it.

That's what I'm doing- it's cheaper than tracking down City Commander's components and it's not as bulky so the posability is better.
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby Autobot Strider » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:50 pm

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PrymeStriker - thanks again for the pic. I gotta say, I am really warming to this Magnus... And he actually does look pretty good scaled next to Prime in both modes, so my concerns are quickly evaporating on that level.

Prime 0080 - Steelcore is cool, but I'm not digging the alt-mode as Magnus. Thanks for the suggestion though!
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby NTESHFT » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:58 pm

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I have the ultra magnus, myself. while he is not the best figure out there, i still like him. The hammer/gun does weigh arm down, and I wish they would have given him 2 of his shoulder missiles instead of one. I like his alt mode. If Reprolabels does some decals for him, I'm definitely getting some. Would make the bot mode look a lot better. That's a lot of blue.....
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby skywarp55 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:52 pm

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jindrak wrote:The shoulders can be fixed with the tried and true clear nail polish trick. Made especially easy in this case because of how far the ball joints are projected out from the upper torso. Easiest time getting limbs off then back on I've ever had.


PrymeStriker wrote:Use nail polish. Loose shoulders are the complaint I keep hearing about and they call him a suckish figure because of it. Loose joints are the easiest QC issue to fix, just take action.


Ok, I've never modified one of my transformers minus changing out batteries so this scares me a little. I actually love my UM and don't want to ruin him. However, I would really like to get his shoulder issue taken care of.

So my question regards how exactly to accomplish the clear nail polish mod. Do I pop off the arms and coat the inside of the ball joint? Or do I coat the end of the ball instead? I'm assuming I then just wait until it dries and then pop the arms back on? How many coats/how thick? Lastly, is nail polish a better fix than super glue?

Any guidance would be much appreciated. :D

Back on topic...I recommend this figure even with the shoulder issue. Also, if the Weaponizer UM is a better figure than some of the other Weaponizers then I'll probably get him too. As far as scale is concerned, I think either would be fine as it just depends on your personal taste as to how big UM should be compared to the other bots. Yet, as PrymeStriker alluded to earlier, I bet we see him in the show. If that happens, you can choose the best scale for you, be it classic or show accurate and go from there!





NOTE: this is MY way of fixing loose joints. I do not use nail polish. Rather I use something else that is just as effective.

STEP 1- Go to local Walmart.
STEP 2- Go to floor care isle and look at all of the house cleaning sprays and liquids.
STEP 3- Find Pledge Floor Care with Future (must have future with it)
STEP 4- Go home of course, and get a paint brush and dip it in the pledge floor care with future and then damp a little on a paper towel and apply it to the joint of the figure.
STEP 5-Apply several coats making sure it is rubbed all over the joints. Move the figures arm and twist it around making sure all of the joint has been covered with the liquid.
STEP 6- let the figure set for a day or a few hours. I recommend several days for the best results.

Have a nice day friend. Oh and could you give me a link to buy PRiD Ultra Magnus for a deal? or could someone? :D
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:36 pm

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He's a good figure. The only real problems are weak shoulder joints and his color scheme is a little bland. Both are pretty easy to fix. I wouldn't get my hopes up for the weaponizer. Optimus and Bumblebee both look terrible so I'm guessing Magnus will be too.
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby Rhinox23 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:01 pm

Autobot Strider wrote:Thanks for the pics guys! I guess his size isn't that bad - although it would have been nice if he was taller than FE Prime, since thats the one I've got, but ah well. Any vehicle mode comparaison shots?


Ask and you shall receive my friend! Sorry I just got around to posting these, but I'm training for a marathon and had a 3 hour/15 mile run today! Anyway, here's some photos that should help show you the comparison of PRiD UM and FE Optimus.

I really love the Prime aesthetic and this UM mold looks great to me. If the Weaponizer UM mold looks similar and is decent at all then I will absolutely be getting him!

Again, I hope the pics help you make a decision!

P.S. @Skywarp55: Thanks for the tip about fixing the shoulder ball joint issue. I will definitely give it a try. Also, I'd recommend watching HTS.com closely for UM to show up. I spoke with a rep before who said that items are added back to the site as they receive them and that it could be at any time on any day. HTS has been having some good deals for the holidays too. Good luck and thanks again!
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Re: Ultra Magnus Dilemma...

Postby REMINATOR » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:42 pm

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