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Since masterpiece MP-01 and binaltech-alternators brought me back to transformers, I've been a religious buyer.
Not mean I am a full hardcore buyer but I'ven buying transformers from almost every toy line that hasbro takara has been
producing since MP-01.

In my way as a collector I turned to become a customizer, too.
Seeing so much detail lost in the molds due to the lack of a proper paint application just got me into this amazing hobbie.

The fact that I paint every transformer I buy make me overseen many flaws that the toys have, because once you paint them all looks cool!!. But recently the lack of quality has gone far more than factory poor paint applications or loose joints.

First, transformers prime suffered the small size syndrome, this spread to all other lines.
Recently the new Fall of cybertron not only suffered of this syndrome but to hollow molds and really cheap plastic.
The complete fall of cybertron line is a bunch of tiny, hollow, and lazy molds.

I was yesterday thinking in my last three toy hunting. I realized that I did not get any satisfaction taking out of package any of this figures. Fall of cybertron starscream, ultra magnus and sideswipe. Later Fall of cybertron Bruticus, and just last night fall of cybertron Grimlock.

I had high expectations with grimlock that's why I felt really disappointed when I hold it out of package.
Not only because the mentioned problems, this time something else pissed me off.

I know hasbro always use photoshop to apply a shiny paint to their pictures. But this time they altered the proportions of the picture to make it look cooler than it really is.

Clearly you can see how the stock picture of hasbro has a bigger head and a really small tail in comparison with the actual toy's picture.

I was expecting the stock figure in a bore grey plastic, hollow and cheap mold, that was ok with me, but an uglier figure in a bore grey plastic, hollow and cheap mold... I didn't see that coming. That was the point when I thought in the insatisfaction that I have been getting for my money. Seriously why I am paying for getting things that only make say: mmmmm...well... it could have been a lot better but... well...mmm...at least It has a cool weapon.

It sounds like non-LEGO toy collecting in a nutshell.

It is sad that TF has lost so much.

I could tolerate rising prices by itself,
I could tolerate smaller figures by itself,
I could tolerate cheaper plastic by itself,
I could tolerate more hollow designs by itself,
I could tolerate lack of paint apps by itself,

But all 5 at once? It is saddening to someone who has enjoyed the level of quality and engineering shown in the original Classics/WFC series of figures, and to a smaller extent, the non-PRID TF Prime figures..

Wow, not even his arms were painted and the screw is missing from the display picture. Terrible.

Thinking about it, all the money I put into FOC Bruticus, Probably $80. or better, it doesn't feel like a toy that is worth that kind of cash. That is roughly the price of an MP. The entire line I own, only Kickback seems to be a good character. Doesn't seem hollow compared to the rest. (pic below)

As said above, I could live with the hollowness, if the price wasn't crazy right now. A deluxe is only a little bit cheaper then a voyager. Crazy. considering how small a deluxe is compared to a voyager...... hasbro...that doesn't mean up the price of a voyager....

Flakmaster wrote:I could tolerate rising prices by itself,
I could tolerate smaller figures by itself,
I could tolerate cheaper plastic by itself,
I could tolerate more hollow designs by itself,
I could tolerate lack of paint apps by itself,

But all 5 at once?

No, not all 5 at once. One at a time.

The cheaper plastic began in DOTM. The "smaller figures" have existed since Energon, and even further back. Yes, in the same size class. The hollow designs started in FE/PRiD. The lack of paint apps appeared later in PRiD. The rising prices began but noticed a lot less, between ROTF and DOTM (I remember paying $7-8 for a Deluxe).

They're cheap plastic toys made for kids. Just because we've co-opted them as a serious hobby doesn't mean Hasbro has to adjust their business plan to satisfy us.

If you're not happy with how TFs are made nowadays, find something else to collect, like third-party transforming toys. But I'm sick of hearing people (especially adults) whine and moan about how a toy company isn't catering to their standards.

Hasbro is a public corporation. Their number one priority is making a profit for their shareholders. As long as they're profitable, they have no reason to cater to a small minority of their customer base. Hasbro is NOT a public charity set up to provide you with a lifetime supply of high-quality collectible figures at low prices.

GuyIncognito wrote:But I'm sick of hearing people (especially adults) whine and moan about how a toy company isn't catering to their standards.

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GuyIncognito wrote:They're cheap plastic toys made for kids. Just because we've co-opted them as a serious hobby doesn't mean Hasbro has to adjust their business plan to satisfy us.

If you're not happy with how TFs are made nowadays, find something else to collect, like third-party transforming toys. But I'm sick of hearing people (especially adults) whine and moan about how a toy company isn't catering to their standards.

Hasbro is a public corporation. Their number one priority is making a profit for their shareholders. As long as they're profitable, they have no reason to cater to a small minority of their customer base. Hasbro is NOT a public charity set up to provide you with a lifetime supply of high-quality collectible figures at low prices.

And this is there right..... just like it is my right and the reason I only own 8 Transformers between the FOC and TF Prime line.... lazyness equals less cash to them on my side. Sure there making some cash.... just not much of mine right now. If they were better I would probably own everyone of them.

I wonder how much better the Takara version is, with paint aps anyway?

Transformers Hoarder wrote:I wonder how much better the Takara version is, with paint aps anyway?

A picture speaks a thousand words:

GuyIncognito wrote:If you're not happy with how TFs are made nowadays, find something else to collect, like third-party transforming toys. But I'm sick of hearing people (especially adults) whine and moan about how a toy company isn't catering to their standards.

You are completely right, and I was seriously thinking about that last night.
That's why I just ordered the Not war for cybertron Omega Supreme (planetX-project Genesis) from robotkingdom and canceled all my beast hunters orders.
After that I will buy the not devastator (Giant) from tfsource. They are really expensive figures but if I not buy anymore from hasbro I think I can afford them.

I should have done it 30 figures ago, hahaha