RAcast wrote:You're quite right. Hasbro REALLY cut costs on the FoC deluxes. Not only are they abhorrently thin and hollow, the plastic quality is noticeably lower than average.
Mkall wrote:RAcast wrote:You're quite right. Hasbro REALLY cut costs on the FoC deluxes. Not only are they abhorrently thin and hollow, the plastic quality is noticeably lower than average.
I really hope it's a trend that doesn't continue...
RAcast wrote:Mkall wrote:RAcast wrote:You're quite right. Hasbro REALLY cut costs on the FoC deluxes. Not only are they abhorrently thin and hollow, the plastic quality is noticeably lower than average.
I really hope it's a trend that doesn't continue...
The Beast Hunter Deluxes are already back to being more sturdy. Well, as sturdy as the PRiD line was, but less sturdy than past lines have been. Only the FoC deluxes were stupidly cheaply made.
souf wrote:I thought so I notice the differnce more so when I put my wfc Optimus next to my FOC Optimus. then I just got FOC Grimlock and his little arm in dino mode came un screwed and off like the 2nd day I had it. I already threw the box away. so couldn't return it for another (trying to figure out how to fix now.
souf wrote:Really Hasbro cut expenses on the FoC deluxes. Not only are they abhorrently slim and empty, the nasty excellent is clearly reduced than regular.
souf wrote:I thought so I notice the differnce more so when I put my wfc Optimus next to my FOC Optimus. then I just got FOC Grimlock and his little arm in dino mode came un screwed and off like the 2nd day I had it. I already threw the box away. so couldn't return it for another (trying to figure out how to fix now.
GuyIncognito wrote:They're cheap plastic toys made for kids. Just because we've co-opted them as a serious hobby doesn't mean Hasbro has to adjust their business plan to satisfy us.
If you're not happy with how TFs are made nowadays, find something else to collect, like third-party transforming toys. But I'm sick of hearing people (especially adults) whine and moan about how a toy company isn't catering to their standards.
Dagon wrote:but I hardly think that wanting what you feel you're paying for is demanding a company to cater to your standards.
Yeah, I chose to buy the $17 dollar toy, and I've a right to my opinion. No one has to like my opinion, but the existance of people who don't like my opinion in no way invalidates my opinion.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
GuyIncognito wrote:They're cheap plastic toys made for kids. Just because we've co-opted them as a serious hobby doesn't mean Hasbro has to adjust their business plan to satisfy us.
If you're not happy with how TFs are made nowadays, find something else to collect, like third-party transforming toys. But I'm sick of hearing people (especially adults) whine and moan about how a toy company isn't catering to their standards.
Hasbro is a public corporation. Their number one priority is making a profit for their shareholders. As long as they're profitable, they have no reason to cater to a small minority of their customer base. Hasbro is NOT a public charity set up to provide you with a lifetime supply of high-quality collectible figures at low prices.
PrymeStriker wrote:It's not a matter of disliking your opinion moreso than it is us wanting the redundancy to stop. I see too many topics created specifically for complaining about this. Not just here, but other sites as well. If we want to complain as much, we should all have a "Transformers Quality Complaints Thread" pinned to the top of all Transformers toy forums.
PrymeStriker wrote:Dagon wrote:but I hardly think that wanting what you feel you're paying for is demanding a company to cater to your standards.
You contradicted yourself there.
What are your "standards?" They are what you want out of something to meet your satisfaction, right? So how is wanting what you feel your paying for not wanting Hasbro to cater to your standards? You want a good toy to satisfy you for what you're paying for. Those are your standards.
Yeah, I chose to buy the $17 dollar toy, and I've a right to my opinion. No one has to like my opinion, but the existance of people who don't like my opinion in no way invalidates my opinion.
Dagon wrote:Yeah, you're right. I suppose I owe everyone an apology for being completely and totally unreasonable for thinking that way. What I obviously should be doing is just buying the stuff that Hasbro puts out, even if I don't like it or if I find some part of it objectionable, because to not buy it would be expecting them to live up to my totally astronomical standards.
So, it's not an issue of there being dislike over the opinion, it's just an issue of people disliking that same opinion? Got it. I suppose it follows that if people are making topics to air grievances about this then it must be a fairly legit concern.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Blurrz wrote:Psst. Stop fighting. You might not like someone else's opinion but in no right does that mean that they should stop having that opinion and not be allowed to voice it.
Anyways, I think to say that the newest era of toys is disappointing is a bit too extreme. While there may effectively be diminishing size and quality, by bringing attention to that, it sort of diminishes the fact that there are still some rather rock solid molds. For the amount of plastic that they are given to work with, we've got some well-engineered toys, like FoC Jazz, Lazerback, and by all means, not all WFC toys were bad, i'd still say all of the molds, sans Deluxe Soundwave, are really good.
Our Transformers toys still transform, and they aren't 'that' bad. Plus, every line has their bad figures. As much as I do yearn for the blockier and sturdier plastic, we are going in a good direction.
Blurrz wrote:Psst. Stop fighting. You might not like someone else's opinion but in no right does that mean that they should stop having that opinion and not be allowed to voice it.
Plus, every line has their bad figures.
njb902 wrote:Like no more mechtech weapons.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
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You might not like someone else's opinion but in no right does that mean that they should stop having that opinion and not be allowed to voice it.
PrymeStriker wrote:Blurrz wrote:Psst. Stop fighting. You might not like someone else's opinion but in no right does that mean that they should stop having that opinion and not be allowed to voice it.
You guys seem to be missing my point. I can only speak for myself, but I never said that I disagreed with their opinion or wanted them to stop voicing their opinion. My point was I was tired of seeing multiple threads being created to complain about it over and over again.Plus, every line has their bad figures.
Yeah, but certain lines nowadays, such as Beast Hunters, have a bigger majority of badly received figures compared to toylines of the past. Bumblebee, Soundwave, Starscream, Ratchet, Dreadwing, and to extents, Ultra Magnus, Wheeljack, and Skystalker/Storm Razor. Whereas the majority can agree that Lazerback, Ripclaw, Optimus, Predaking, and Shockwave are cool dudes.
Of course, how badly they're received doesn't necessarily have to depend on the plastic quality. And previous lines have had a wider selection of figures in the mainline anyway.njb902 wrote:Like no more mechtech weapons.
Ah, come on, dude. MechTechs were cool when they could lock.
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