Dagon wrote:but I hardly think that wanting what you feel you're paying for is demanding a company to cater to your standards.
You contradicted yourself there.
What are your "standards?" They are what you want out of something to meet your satisfaction, right? So how is wanting what you feel your paying for not
wanting Hasbro to cater to your standards? You want a good toy to satisfy you for what you're paying for. Those are your standards.
Yeah, you're right. I suppose I owe everyone an apology for being completely and totally unreasonable for thinking that way. What I obviously should be doing is just buying the stuff that Hasbro puts out, even if I don't like it or if I find some part of it objectionable, because to not buy it would be expecting them to live up to my totally astronomical standards.
I find myself missing the days when this kind of argument was basically limited to people who would cry that every toy released was not G1ish enough and that that was Hasbro not catering to personal standards. Nowadays not automatically loving things equates to having crazily unmeetable expectations.
I'm not asking for Masterpiece Prime to only cost me $12, I am simply not satisfied with paying $18 for FoC Sideswipe, who, yes, solely in my estimate, doesn't seem worth the price I paid.
Yeah, I chose to buy the $17 dollar toy, and I've a right to my opinion. No one has to like my opinion, but the existance of people who don't like my opinion in no way invalidates my opinion.
It's not a matter of disliking your opinion moreso than it is us wanting the redundancy to stop. I see too many topics created specifically for complaining about this. Not just here, but other sites as well. If we want to complain as much, we should all have a "Transformers Quality Complaints Thread" pinned to the top of all Transformers toy forums.[/quote]
So, it's not an issue of there being dislike over the opinion, it's just an issue of people disliking that same opinion? Got it. I suppose it follows that if people are making topics to air grievances about this then it must be a fairly legit concern. Certainly there are people who are never happy with anything, but I highly doubt every person who complains about this matter merely does so because of some sour grapes or these outrageous standards such as wanting to feel like you've gotten value out of your money.
I'm fine with it if the site finds it best to make a sticky or limit this type of discussion to one thread like the toy haul thread, that's fine. But I don't think it's in any way healthy to the fandom to outlaw or restrict unhappy ideas just because they make people unhappy. It does us no good to restrict the discussion of negative opinions because it hurts someones' feelings or people find it redundant.
Look, I love a lot more about Transformers in general, be that toys, or fiction or movies or comics or whatever, than I've ever found reason to dislike, dating all the way back to 1985. My general outlook, although it is again an example of my super high standards, is that if I don't like something, I won't spend my money on it. I didn't like the DOTM toys, so I bought the few that I wanted out of character loyalty and then bought no more. I don't know if you can still do this on here, but you used to be able to see the past posts of members, and if you can do that and have any inclination to do so, I'd challenge you to read through all the posts I've ever made on this board and count up how many are needless or overly demanding complaints on my part. Sure I've made some, but as a rule I try to stay positive about the things I enjoy.
But I take serious offense to the concept that dissenting opinions should be curbed because you (As a general pronoun, not a specific referent) don't like it or it hurts your (same as before) feelings get hurt. If the "Stop liking what I don't like" approach gets carried to its ultimate end, then you (specifically this time) should stop giving your opinion on things because other people are tired of its redundancy, and if it should apply to me it should apply to you. This is, by name and design, a DISCUSSION board, not a one way street or echo chamber.