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SirSoundwaveIV wrote:Wow, Murdoch really unintentionally helped out our cause a lot by bringing it onto twitter to blast Obama about it.

Psychout wrote:

SirSoundwaveIV wrote:Wow, Murdoch really unintentionally helped out our cause a lot by bringing it onto twitter to blast Obama about it.

ironic, considering News International haven't made mention of this in any of their media outlets and their emphatic support for this bill.

morphobots wrote:Maybe this has already been mentioned farther up the thread, but I see on Google that Seibertron.com has been confirmed for the Jan. 18th blackout. Thumbs up, Ryan. Everyone I've been talking to about this is apathetic as hell, or tell me they don't see how this applies to them. I guess Jefferson was right: people really do get the government they deserve.

Baneblade wrote:++Warning - The following contains language of an irate and displeased individual++

pfft.. stupid government officials. as i said before in the RP Chatterbox, this is just a publicity stunt to make the fatcats fatter, and the working man poorer. Its a stunt to make the lazy corrupt political bastards more money and feel more secure in their pitiful lives because they want to be in control, and that their own families act against them - or rather - the politician's children are telling them to F**K right off.

I'm waving the middle finger here because no one - and I mean NO ONE - has the right or power to tell me what I can look at on the internet, what I can download and what I do in my spare time.

The sheer arrogance of the political structure to think that they are acting in our best interests is a freaking lie!

They should be all taken out and shot - and failing that, they should be removed - by force if neccessary!

this makes me sick...

Seibertron wrote:

morphobots wrote:Maybe this has already been mentioned farther up the thread, but I see on Google that Seibertron.com has been confirmed for the Jan. 18th blackout. Thumbs up, Ryan. Everyone I've been talking to about this is apathetic as hell, or tell me they don't see how this applies to them. I guess Jefferson was right: people really do get the government they deserve.

Thanks for the information morphobots. Can you provide the link on Google that shows that?

Seibertron wrote:

morphobots wrote:Maybe this has already been mentioned farther up the thread, but I see on Google that Seibertron.com has been confirmed for the Jan. 18th blackout. Thumbs up, Ryan. Everyone I've been talking to about this is apathetic as hell, or tell me they don't see how this applies to them. I guess Jefferson was right: people really do get the government they deserve.

Thanks for the information morphobots. Can you provide the link on Google that shows that?

Seibertron wrote:

Baneblade wrote:++Warning - The following contains language of an irate and displeased individual++

pfft.. stupid government officials. as i said before in the RP Chatterbox, this is just a publicity stunt to make the fatcats fatter, and the working man poorer. Its a stunt to make the lazy corrupt political bastards more money and feel more secure in their pitiful lives because they want to be in control, and that their own families act against them - or rather - the politician's children are telling them to F**K right off.

I'm waving the middle finger here because no one - and I mean NO ONE - has the right or power to tell me what I can look at on the internet, what I can download and what I do in my spare time.

The sheer arrogance of the political structure to think that they are acting in our best interests is a freaking lie!

They should be all taken out and shot - and failing that, they should be removed - by force if neccessary!

this makes me sick...

They do have the right to tell you that you can't illegally download music or videos. While I am a proponent against SOPA and PIPA, I am not an advocate for piracy. That problem must be dealt with, but SOPA, PIPA, and other similar legislation is not the answer.

miller-mccune.com, December 29, 2011 wrote:When members of Congress earlier this month considered the Stop Online Piracy Act — better known to anyone who actually hangs out on the Internet as #SOPA — the most notable feature of the debate turned out to be the sheer ignorance of the elected officials discussing it. One after the other, members of the U.S. House of Representatives professed — nay, bragged about — approaching this weighty legislation from the vantage point of someone who is not “a nerd” or a “tech expert.”

Psychout wrote:I see your point, but piracy is not something Seibertron.com can ever condone.

This is only about piracy as a secondary issue, badly-thought-out and non-specific legislation such as this is counter productive to the Internet's creativity and freedom as a whole, and demonstrates the far more frightening prospect that those who are in a position to dictate what the Internet can and cant to are not only non-users of the internet, but are actually proud of that fact!

miller-mccune.com, December 29, 2011 wrote:When members of Congress earlier this month considered the Stop Online Piracy Act — better known to anyone who actually hangs out on the Internet as #SOPA — the most notable feature of the debate turned out to be the sheer ignorance of the elected officials discussing it. One after the other, members of the U.S. House of Representatives professed — nay, bragged about — approaching this weighty legislation from the vantage point of someone who is not “a nerd” or a “tech expert.”

That is just wrong. A lot has changed in the 2 weeks since, but just this sentence here riles up more people that you can possibly imagine - how can these people litigate for a global resource they have no knowledge of?
Would you let a golf instructor set the rules for a football match?

They clearly underestimated the abilities of the internet but this still needs to go further so, please, link this (or any equivalent) article on every site you visit, be they cosy little forums or huge news aggregates, to be doubly sure they take SOPA seriously help to spread the word.

Sodan-1 wrote:Apologies if this has been asked already (many, many comments and I'm feeling lazy) but as American politicians are once again looking to screw things up for everyone, is there anything us foreigners can do to help?

Psychout wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:Apologies if this has been asked already (many, many comments and I'm feeling lazy) but as American politicians are once again looking to screw things up for everyone, is there anything us foreigners can do to help?

Sadly, not directly.

We can spread the word and do all we can to encourage and show our American friends that their involvement is needed to stop this, and join in with a show of support for those who are doing something about this.

Im a brit living in the UK but I created this article for exactly that reason, this will affect us almost as much as them and if all I can do is spread the word then I'll jolly well do it properly!

Psychout wrote:Edit: although it would now appear that the EU doesn't want to be outdone by American stupidity either:
http://www.derechoaleer.org/images/2011 ... eu-950.png

Psychout wrote:I see your point, but piracy is not something Seibertron.com can ever condone.

This is only about piracy as a secondary issue, badly-thought-out and non-specific legislation such as this is counter productive to the Internet's creativity and freedom as a whole, and demonstrates the far more frightening prospect that those who are in a position to dictate what the Internet can and cant to are not only non-users of the internet, but are actually proud of that fact!

miller-mccune.com, December 29, 2011 wrote:When members of Congress earlier this month considered the Stop Online Piracy Act — better known to anyone who actually hangs out on the Internet as #SOPA — the most notable feature of the debate turned out to be the sheer ignorance of the elected officials discussing it. One after the other, members of the U.S. House of Representatives professed — nay, bragged about — approaching this weighty legislation from the vantage point of someone who is not “a nerd” or a “tech expert.”

That is just wrong. A lot has changed in the 2 weeks since, but just this sentence here riles up more people that you can possibly imagine - how can these people litigate for a global resource they have no knowledge of?
Would you let a golf instructor set the rules for a football match?

They clearly underestimated the abilities of the internet but this still needs to go further so, please, link this (or any equivalent) article on every site you visit, be they cosy little forums or huge news aggregates, to be doubly sure they take SOPA seriously help to spread the word.

Psychout wrote:Clarification is still needed but it looks like SOPA has been shelved (not dropped, but still shelved)!

We cannot stop the pressure even if this is true though. The Senate equivalent, PIPA, is still out there and just becuase we have postponed one form of crazy does not mean we should sit back and let another take it's place. We also can be certain that SOPA will be back in one form or another eventually.

Stll work to do.

albertnicol wrote:Apologies if this has been asked already (many, many comments and I'm feeling lazy) but as American politicians are once again looking to screw things up for everyone, is there anything us foreigners can do to help?